Silverlight app in Lync CWE fails with "Client not trusted", despite being added to trusted sites

We're trying to get a silverlight app up and running in a Lync 2013 CWE. We have a Lync 2010 server on it's own domain, which is not the same domain as the 2013 client machine. Clients on the different domains communicate perfectly.
The silverlight app is hosted on our own webserver, which is in the same domain as the 2013 client machine. We tried hosting it on the other domain, with the same result.
YES, we've added the domain to our trusted sites in registry, but still we get the exception.
The line that fails:
 _conversation = (Conversation)LyncClient.GetHostingConversation();
How to get the app to work in our client?

Please check “How to: Install a CWE application in Lync SDK” at
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/jj933101.aspx
As the problem is related with Lync client development, please post your question in the following forum:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/home?forum=communicatorsdk
Lisa Zheng
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    identityunknown

    Sorry, I tried something that I should have tried before posting, that gives another information about my problem.
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    JAVA_COMMAND="%JAVA_HOME%\bin\java.exe" %VM_OPTS% -jar oc4j.jar %OC4J_OPTS%
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    VM_OPTS=-XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xbootclasspath/p:"%JAVA_HOME%\jre\lib\ext\sunjce_provider.jar"
    JAVA_COMMAND="%JAVA_HOME%\bin\java.exe" %VM_OPTS% -jar oc4j.jar %OC4J_OPTS%
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    2. how can I specify boot classpath option for embedded oc4j and/or JDeveloper

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