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On a G5 Power Mac, will I run into trouble if I install a 10.4.11 update immediately after installing Tiger via commercial disk?
Thanks.

The combo update for PowerPC-based Macs...
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx10411comboupdateppc.html
Repair Permissions afterwords, reboot.

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Can I skip installing Tiger

Finally found a source of Leopard of 10.5 for my iMac. Can I go straight from Panther to Leopard?
Many thanks for your help.
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I don't know all that much about this topic. I'm still using iTunes 9.0.1 (with my 10.6), but I do know that 9.2.1, if needed for a downgrade, is still available here.
http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1056
You could ask in the iTunes support area about the specific issues you are experiencing, as well as how to unnstall version 10, if it comes to that.
https://discussions.apple.com/community/itunes/itunes_for_mac?view=discussions

To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

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Some Macs while they have Firewire, don't support Target Disk Mode, nor Firewire booting. These Macs if they came with no DVD drive, and only a CD drive or CD-RW drive (as opposed to combo or superdrive), can only install Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) if you:
1. Install a compatible internal DVD drive from which supports http://www.patchburn.de/ or other firmware that supports Mac OS X booting.
2. Find the original retail CD version of Mac OS X 10.4 that was available for a limited time called the Media Exchange Program CD.
These Macs include the Blue and White G3 desktop (non-iMac), and the PCI PowerMac G4 described below:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
The iMac G3 with built-in Firewire, iBook G3 with built-in Firewire, and AGP PowerMac G4 with built-in Firewire at least support Firewire booting and Target Disk Mode which would allow them to use an external optical DVD drive that supports Mac OS X booting.
If they didn't have an internal DVD drive.
Port #4 in this image below is a Firewire port:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.
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What happens if the firmware isn't updated?
The display may stop working, even for OS 9. It is not easy to fix.
I just installed 10.2 on one of them and it seems to be working. Should I uninstall it and upgrade the firmware and start over?
Check the "Boot ROM version" with System profiler. If the firmware is updated it will be 4.1.9
It is not necessary to remove OSX to install the updates if OS 9 is still on the hard drive. If not, and the OS 9 drivers are there, OS 9 can be installed without affecting OSX.
The update won't install if it is not needed.

CanNOT install Tiger on New Quad. What version of Logic is most reliable??

I've read all the posts to death, and fully intended to install Tiger onto my new Quad, but that is not an option. so... It came with Leopard 10.5.1. I need to know what exact configuration with the most stability I should go with. i.e. -- do i stay at 10.5.1 or go to 10.5.2 --- i have every upgrade of Logic since 6.0, so do I go with 7.2.3, or Logic 8.??, or something else.
I am interested in what is the 'lesser evil' of a combination here and trying to stay off as much issues as some of you more unfortunate souls.
and lastly, in this equation what other update should i definitely do, or avoid like the plague...i.e. pro kit, pro apps, security update blah, blah, blah...I do video editing as well, so i wonder if my Final Cut Studio 2 will even come in to play in the equation.
I am really sorry for all who have been screwed over by all these completely evil 'bugs' and such. i really welcome any of your input if it means it can lessen the blow on my own studio.
Thanks,
Jeremy
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o.k.
i have come to believe that you have been completely misguided. there is absolutely no way my new Quad or Macbkpro will run tiger 10.4.11...no way!!!
i took both an internal, and an external drive to my old Tiger running G5. Did fresh installs of tiger on both. then did combo upgrades up to 10.4.4 ( cause it would not do any higher and do the intel version from the G5 ). I brought the drives back to my new Laptop and Quad. updated the software on them up to 10.4.11 intel combo. stuck one drive into the quad, and left one for an external scenerio. I have booted, rebooted, target disc mode, chose boot drive mode, prayed, cried, switched start up drive... even switched the roles and tried to do it with the MacBkPro, also. what i get, from either one, every single time, is the following....
the great black curtain of death saying to do a hard reboot, and code at the top saying stuff like
"panic(cpu 0 caller 0x003abd33) : Unable to find driver for this platform: "ACPI" . "
then some stuff about... debugger called...<panic>...backtrace, format - frame : return address (4 potential args on stack)....jibberish code junk.... then Kernal Version: Darwin kernal version 8.11.1...
so, please, be my kind Italian friend and tell me, are you SUUURE this is possible??? if you know a special secret to accomplishing this, you can reach me through my site. ( i don't want to do or say anything on the forums that would be wrong or against the rules... really...i respect them...I also respect my tons of paying clients that are ready to find other places to give my business...)
and lastly, if indeed I am "stuck" with Leopard on my Quad, in regards to Logic, what combination do I go with in juggling 10.5.1 vs. 10.5.2, vs. Logic 7.2.3 vs. Logic 8.?, then what other random stuff should I do or avoid, i.e. ProApps updates, Pro-kit, certain security updates, etc...
Thank you,
jeremy
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Re: To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

I'd like to ammend this at the end and say:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.

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Need to Re-install Tiger

After a whole host of issued with USB Hard drives... I am considering re-installing my tiger software to my Macbook. It seems to be unable to mount any external USB HD. I thought for sure it was just my seagate external hd... but now I have installed a new internal drive and was using the old system drive through a USB connection. The old system drive which was working fine before... seems to be unable to mount now so I can't run disk utility on it.
What all do I need to get backed up before I re-install Tiger in terms of applications. I know I need to copy the whole home folder over to a seperate disk. But do I need to back up all my applications as well. If so, how do I do this? Just copy over the whole application folder. Are there any other major folders that need to be backed before doing this process. I just want my macbook to run nicely like it did when I bought it a few years ago. It seems to run fine as long as no external drives are connected but I need these things for backup as well as to store movies and music.

I would suggest you clone your existing system for now, and then do an Archive and Install:
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the backup drive.
Source means the startup drive.
How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

I don't have a dual-layer drive, can I install Tiger or Leopard?

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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard come on what appear to be larger than 4.7 GB discs. This does not mean you need a dual layer drive to install them. Some Macs capable of installing Tiger or Leopard came with a built-in CD-RW, or CD-ROM drive. For those a compatible Firewire DVD drive for booting Mac OS X can work instead of replacing the internal drive. Tiger also came in a limited edition Media Exchange Program CD installer package, which you may be able to find in the open market. The limitation for each is dependant on other hardware:
1. If your Mac shipped new with no Firewire, you may be able to install Tiger a special third party addon software known as XPostFacto.
2. If your Mac shipped new with less than 867 Mhz built-in processor (including dual processor 800 MHz or less), you may be able to install Leopard with a special third party addon software known as Leopard Assist.
3. If your Mac shipped with a processor upgrade card installed, and #2 is true, a firmware update may be available from the processor upgrade card vendor that allows Leopard's installation.
4. Tiger needs at least 256 MB of RAM.
Leopard needs at least 512 MB of RAM.
If you have a lot of dashboard widgets, you may need to increase RAM to improve performance on either operating system. The RAM needs to follow Apple's specs to ensure smooth operation. Only get RAM with a lifetime warranty.
5. Officially you need for Tiger:
"At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools" from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
And officially for Leopard you need:
"9 GB of available disk space or more" from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3759
However, I would add to that if your hard drive doesn't have at least 15% of the drive free in addition to that, you may experience significant slowing down in the operating system function. This number has been arbitrarily discovered by many users.
6. When installing Tiger or Leopard, if your machine shipped with Panther (10.3) or earlier, be sure to get the retail Tiger or retail Leopard.
The Tiger installer is a san serif gray and white X with a spotlight on the center of the X on a black background.
The Leopard installer is a san serif black and gray X on a pink galaxy centered on a black background.
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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard come on what appear to be larger than 4.7 GB discs. This does not mean you need a dual layer drive to install them. Some Macs capable of installing Tiger or Leopard came with a built-in CD-RW, or CD-ROM drive. For those a compatible Firewire DVD drive for booting Mac OS X can work instead of replacing the internal drive. Tiger also came in a limited edition Media Exchange Program CD installer package, which you may be able to find in the open market. The limitation for each is dependant on other hardware:
1. If your Mac shipped new with no Firewire, you may be able to install Tiger a special third party addon software known as XPostFacto.
2. If your Mac shipped new with less than 867 Mhz built-in processor (including dual processor 800 MHz or less), you may be able to install Leopard with a special third party addon software known as Leopard Assist.
3. If your Mac shipped with a processor upgrade card installed, and #2 is true, a firmware update may be available from the processor upgrade card vendor that allows Leopard's installation.
4. Tiger needs at least 256 MB of RAM.
Leopard needs at least 512 MB of RAM.
If you have a lot of dashboard widgets, you may need to increase RAM to improve performance on either operating system. The RAM needs to follow Apple's specs to ensure smooth operation. Only get RAM with a lifetime warranty.
5. Officially you need for Tiger:
"At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools" from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
And officially for Leopard you need:
"9 GB of available disk space or more" from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3759
However, I would add to that if your hard drive doesn't have at least 15% of the drive free in addition to that, you may experience significant slowing down in the operating system function. This number has been arbitrarily discovered by many users.
6. When installing Tiger or Leopard, if your machine shipped with Panther (10.3) or earlier, be sure to get the retail Tiger or retail Leopard.
The Tiger installer is a san serif gray and white X with a spotlight on the center of the X on a black background.
The Leopard installer is a san serif black and gray X on a pink galaxy centered on a black background.
This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on Dec 23, 2009 by a brody.
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How do I install Tiger on a G3 iMAC from an external DVD drive?

I want to install Tiger on my PPC G3 iMAC. It is 500MHZ with 512 MB Ram, running 10.3.9. It has a CD drive, but CD version of Tiger is no longer available. I purchased a retail version of Tiger, and, on the advice of the Apple Store personnel, purchased an external DVD drive. It is a USB Lacie drive. My iMAC sees the DVD, but when I click the Install icon, it has a Restart button. Clicking the button restarts for 10.3.9. Same thing happens when I use the "C" key. When I try to assign the DVD drive as the startup drive, it says "ding" and won't assign it. What can I do next?

Take the DVD drive back and exchange it for a Firewire model. You cannot boot the iMac from a USB drive. This is basic information your Apple store personnel should know unless you failed to tell them what Mac model you have.

How to properly clean install: erase, partition hard drive, and install tiger then SL

Hello,
     I am a noob at this, so if responders would be kind enough to be detailed / specific with any instructions it would be most helpful! I own a dinosaur apparently (even though I don't think so): the white (not unibody) Intel macbook2,1 (late 2006) 1.83 GHz with currently 1GB of RAM, but I have 2x2GB RAM sitting next to me ready for install. However, first I would like to do a clean uninstall of my computer (running OS X 10.6.8 SL). I also would like to properly partition my hard drive while I'm at it.
     About 6 months ago I had serious crashing issues, along with kernel panics, hangs, applications randomly appearing & disappearing, system settings and options doing the same, fans running high (probably due to the low RAM available), and basically overall screwiness. So, after trying pretty much every option I could find on this community...and many others... (e.g. clean cache, clean old logs, already did a clean uninstall and install of SL, and much much more) I have reached my wits end. I would say that to date I've wasted a good solid 2 months with this.
     The clean install worked for MAYBE a month or so, but then it started acting up again with the fans (even without high pages in/out, CPU or memory usage) and excessive heat, along with the apps freezing and quitting (mind you it would be only two things open such as 1 word document and then firefox-- with flash disabeled). SOOOOOO long story short, I have purchased new RAM and I would like to try this once again, but to ensure I don't screw it up this time I would like some directions as to how to do the uninstall, partition, then reinstall. (currently to date I ensured all updates are completed---even though they are no longer released for SL, and I just did a full backup).
     Also, I need to first install Tiger (my original OS) as when I went to do a hardware test the other day this was not an option (and upon further research it is due to me not using Tiger as a first install and then using my mac box set for SL). I didn't use my original OS first because....one issue encountered when I had tried to install Tiger was that my Disc 2 (the applications one) took around 1.5 hrs to complete, but when I reached the last step of glory where I expected it to say COMPLETE it instead said that there was some sort of issue with the disc..........of course).
     Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1: If near a Apple Store or Authorized Repair, take it to then for a free evaluation, it might have other hardware problems now that it would be a waste of effort even continuing.
2: The RAM needs to be
Maximum Memory
3.0 GB (Actual) 2.0 GB (Apple)
Memory Slots
2 - 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM
Basically what this means is you can put in a 2GB module and a 1GB module for 3GB total.
I wouldn't proceed with installing RAM just yet, not until you get a stable OS X version on the machine, you might have a hard drive needing to be replaced as well which you can do while inserting new RAM.
3: This User Tip can assist in installing 10.6 Snow Leopard, partition format etc.
How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6
Software Update fully immediately after setup.
There is no need to install Tiger, he 10.6 disk contains the full 10.6 version, you can either install the iLife from Tiger disks or use Pacifist from Charlesoft to extract them and place on your new install, then Software update to get them current.
4: If not successful then the drive also likely needs to be replaced, if so choose a 7,200 RPM SATA I w/1.5Gb/s connection.
Install/upgrade RAM or storage drive in Mac's
Repeat #3
If your getting beeping noises or "you need to restart" issues, it's likely one or more of the RAM modules is bad. Have it exchanged or swapped.
I advise good quality RAM the first time, if you buy cheap stuff it's just going back.
Don't go any further than 10.6.8 with that old machine, the performance will be terrible.

Installing Tiger on a Macbook Pro that came only with Leopard

Hi guys,
Any ideas on how to install Tiger onto a Macbook Pro that came preloaded with Leopard, and only has a Leopard disc?
I've got a refurbished Macbook Pro recently. Realised that one of my application doesn't work, Capture One Pro. Visited Phase One's website and they said it only supports 3.9 and above at the time it was released, which makes it 10.4.10.
Systems in the story below: Macbook Pro Core Cuo. Macbook Pro C2D (new set), Mac Pro, iMac Core 2 Duo
Here's what I've tried
1. I've an original disk that came with my MBP CD. When I try to boot from that disk on my MBP C2D, it gives me the crash screen -> "please hold the power for secs to restart".
2. I've tried installing Tiger onto my iMac and did a harddisk clone via Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) to my MBP CD. Tiger was able to run on my MBP CD fine.
3. Then I tried using CCC to clone it over to my MBP C2D. It doesn't work. Shows me the crash screen.
4. I've tried installing Tiger on my Mac Pro. Used CCC to clone over the disk image to MBP C2D. Doesn't work too. Crash screen.
5. Created disk images of Tiger with Disk Utility on iMac, Mac Pro. Tried to restore using the iMac, Mac Pro disk images of Tiger. Doesn't work. Shows me the crash screen.
6. Updated Tiger to 10.4.11 on my Mac Pro. Created disk image using Disk Utility. Restored MBP C2D with it. Crash screen on load.
I'm out of ideas and Apple Support won't open until Monday.
It seems that this MBP C2D is set on not installing Tiger, no matter what. Wonder if getting hold of a Tiger retail disc will do the trick?

You can install tiger onto a MacBook Pro up to version 3,1.
Run System Profiler and under hardware:
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1 This line is the model number!
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP41.00C1.B00
SMC Version: 1.27f1
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXXX
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
I have got tiger installed onto this MacBookPro which is the latest 4,1 model, but you require the latest Tiger disk (which the Apple Genius had in my case), but the volume, brightness and trackpad gestures do not work! Everything else is fine.

Installing Tiger to a iMac G3-700 SE

Hi everbody,
Recently purchased a DualCore G5 2GHz. Awesome machine. It came with pre-installed Tiger OS. I'd like to upgrade my older computer as well. Therefore I have a few questions, all help is highly appreciated.
1: Can I install Tiger to an iMac G3-700? Or is there a minium hardware requirement?
2: I assume Tiger installer CD is a DVD-Rom. Therefore my iMac was not able to read it. Is there any other way to use the installer CD toward older computers without DVD reading capabilities? What if I cpoy the installer CDs to an externa hard drive, can I run the install from there?
3: Do you think an iMac G3-700 (512mb ram) would be too slow on Tiger OS?
Thanks in advance!

Mac OS X Version 10.4 requires a Macintosh with:
PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
Built-in FireWire
At least 256MB of physical RAM
A built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
At least 3.0 GB of available space on your hard drive; 4GB of disk space if you install XCode 2 developer tools
DVD drive for installation (get CD media for $9.95)
The Tiger retail install package and the Tiger install package that ships with a new Mac purchased is on DVD media.
The Tiger install package that ships with a new Mac purchase is model and system configuration specific and cannot be used to install Tiger on another Mac model. If this were possible, it would be a violation of the single user license agreement that you agreed to and against the law.
If your iMac meets all other minimum system requirements except for having a DVD drive, purchase the Tiger retail install package and if the iMac is capable of Firewire Target Disk mode, you can connect your old and new Mac together this way to install the Tiger retail install package on the iMac.
If not, you can use Apple's Media Exchange Program to exchange the Tiger retail DVD media for CD media.

Can't install Tiger on Yikes - kind of weird

I've had people trying to help me with this over at macosx.com, and so far no luck. Maybe you guys can figure this one out.
I have a Yikes G4, 512MB RAM, 40GB hardrive, DVD-ROM, right now running OS 9.2.2. I've run everything from OS 8.6 through 10.2.8 on this computer. I'm trying to install Tiger, but I'm having a problem.
When I put the Tiger disk in, I get the "resart to install" dialog box. I hit the restart button, the computer restarts, gives the normal chime, then nothing. Black screen, I can see it access the DVD drive for a few seconds, then it just sits there. The computer is on, it doesn't shut down, but it never gets to the point where the moniter comes on.
If I restart and hold the C key, same thng happens, black screen. The computer will not finish booting unless I restart and get the Tiger DVD out of the drive before the computer looks for it. Then it boots from the hard drive normally. Can't hold Option key for Startup Manager, not supported on the Yikes. Can't use Startup Disk Control panel to choose Tiger, same thing happens, black screen. Can't use Target Disk Mode, not supported on Yikes.
The DVD drive is a stock Apple DVD-ROM originally out of a Sawtooth model. The Yikes will boot from an OS 9 CD, and just for the heck of it, I tried my Jaguar grey system specific DVD from my TiBook, and it boots with that DVD no problem, too. It PLAYS the Tiger DVD no problem, just will not boot from it.
Here's what I've tried so far, not necessarily in this order:
1. Reset PMU.
2. Reset PRAM.
3. Removed Apple factory stock Adaptec 2930 SCSI card.
4. Removed 3rd party RAM, stole Apple stock 256MB stick out of Sawtooth to bring it back up to 512MB.
5. Checked for firmware updates, Yikes doesn't need one.
6. Unplugged ethernet.
7. Unplugged everything but moniter, keyboard, mouse.
8. Checked hard drive with Disk Utility from OS 9 and Jaguar disks, drive appears okay.
I tried different DVDs in different computers to make sure they do work. Yikes will boot from Jaguar DVD and OS 9 CD, so it is a bootable drive. Tiger DVD will boot (and install, family pack) from DVD both the TiBook and the Sawtooth, so my Tiger disk seems fine. It is the retail (universal) black Tiger DVD.
I can't find this specific problem in the knowledge base or searching the forums. And I seem to have stumped the folks over at macosx.com. Anybody have any ideas that I haven't tried yet?
TiBook 1Ghz, 1GB RAM Matshita UJ-845S 8x Dual Layer; Sawtooth w/1.2 GHz owc upgrade, Yikes, etc. Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Hi TMM,
The Tiger DVD is the black boxed retail universal version. It's not a grey system-specific version. (However, the Yikes will boot from a grey system-specific DVD for my TiBook. Go figure).
I knew for OS X I didn't need a firmware upgrade, but someone suggested that maybe there could be an older upgrade (this computer came with OS 8.6). I didn't find anything like that.
This Mac meets all the requirements for Tiger. All external devices and ethernet have been disconnected. Removed all third party RAMI just . I even removed the stock PCI SCSI card factory installed by Apple. Everything else is stock. No other cards, no processor upgrades. (However, I have a heavily modded Sawtooth that boots to this Tiger DVD no problem. Three hard drives, one of them running from an ATA PCI card, 5 port USB PCI card, 16x Dual Layer DVD burner, and OWC 1.3GHz processor upgrade...go figure again.)
I just ran out yesterday and got a new battery to see if that would help. Reset PMU and PRAM again after it was installed, no difference.
I'm pretty familiar with the installation instructions, but I've gone back over them just in case. There's no mention of anything like this. Like I said before, this seems to have stumped the folks over at macosx.com, too. I'm beginning to think there's some weird little quirk in this particular machine.
Thanks for trying, though!
TiBook 1Ghz, 1GB RAM Matshita UJ-845S 8x Dual Layer; Sawtooth w/1.2 GHz owc upgrade, Yikes, etc. Mac OS X (10.2.x)
TiBook 1Ghz, 1GB RAM Matshita UJ-845S 8x Dual Layer; Sawtooth w/1.2 GHz owc upgrade, Yikes, etc. Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Can I install Tiger on my iMac slot loader running OS 8.6?

I'm keen to upgrade my iMac DV bondi blue slotloader running OS 8.6 to Tiger so I can take advantage of wireless networking. Do I need, say, OS 9 first? or can I just go to Tiger directly.
Also - does anyone have experience of putting a new OS on an old machine - is it actually worth it or am I asking for trouble?

Hi Macnabbs,
yes, you can install Tiger on your computer. However, you will have to upgrade to at least 9.1 (better 9.2.1: ) before that, then upgrade your firmware and install at least 256 MB RAM (better: 512 MB). Also make sure you have at least 5 GB of free hard disk space! MacOS X needs a minimum of 1.5 GB of free hard disk space at all times in order to run properly.
The short version goes like this:
0. Confirm your Mac meets the minimum hardware requirements: Built-In firewire, 256 MB RAM (512 MB recommended), 5 GB free hard disk space (System Requirements)
1. Update to 9.2.x: Mac OS 9: Available Updates
2. Upgrade your firmware: Mac OS X: Chart of Available Firmware Updates
3. Download the Mac OS X Update 10.4.5 Combo update: Mac OS X Update 10.4.5 Combo
4. Unplug all peripherals but the original Apple keyboard and mouse.
5. Install Tiger
6. Repair permissions before and after an update!
7. Apply the 10.4.5 Update
8. Repair permissions before and after an update!
9. Run software update from the Apple menu.
10. Repair permissions!
Keep the order!
If you cannot select your hard disk as a destination volume and your computer is quite old this article might help:
Mac OS X: Disk Appears Dimmed (or "Grayed Out") in the Installer
Good luck!

Can I install Tiger on external drive, inside a folder?

Hi
I know I can install Tiger (iMac G5 version) on an external HD - I've already done it. However, I'd now like to install onto a different eHD where there is a lot more space.
Can I set up a folder (e.g. called "My Tiger") and install into that? And will it find & boot from it if I hold down the Option key when I switch on my iMac? Or must an install be done into the root directory only?
If you're wondering why I need this - Photoshop won't run in Leopard on the iMac, but it will run from an eHD running Tiger.

Does that mean I could have Tiger installed into a separate partition on my INTERNAL drive?
Yes.
And would it mean I could access all my files and run software from the main Leopard partition (obviously, not Mail or system utilities)?
Yes, except for software which requires system components; this typically consists of software which came with an installer.
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Can I install Tiger on Mac OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard?

I am using Mac mini and my OS version MAC OS X 10.6.2 Snow leopard and it was as default with my Mac mini,
Can I install Tiger 10.4 on my current Mac mini in different location as dual boot?

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
No Mac can install an older Mac operating system than shipped with it.
The only minor exception is Macs which shipped with Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, but those ones only could run the Mac OS 9 that came with it and newer one, and Mac OS X that came with it and newer one up to the limitations of the hardware.
Also no Mac can install an operating system disc from a different Mac that is different either in model or vintage.
If you are missing compatibility with your new Mac Mini for a specific application, please check
C!Net Download
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/
http://www.macintouch.com/specialreports/snowleopard/slcompat.html
for alternative titles, or feel free to ask if someone here knows of one.
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