Smart object & timeline

In PS6
I'm having trouble synchonising an animated drummer [as a smart object] with the audio track from the original clip I've drawn inlayers - because, when I go to the smart object edit file, the audio isn't there.
I tried to copy the track and paste it = no success [it wouldn't allow me to copy it].
And I tried to drag/drop it from the original timeline to the smart object edit timeline = no.
I don't even think I can save the audio from the original segment, and open and paste it to the smart edit window.
So now I come here to ask, cap in hand, if any of you PS experienced people out there on Earth know how to do this!
Thanks
John, Manchester, UK

Sorry, but you're using a hedge trimmer to cut your wife's/ girlfriend's hair in a manner of speaking.... Use a proper animation/ video tool like After Effects for this kind of work.
Mylenium

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Can you use more than transformation in a smart object in the timeline, ie for tweening?

I know I can use transformation, but ideally I wish to 'distort' the pixels within a selection without changing the boundary, say with the liquify tool.
If you can't do this, maybe Adobe can consider this feature for future release, ie giving greater manipulation control when tweening in a smart object layer in the timeline.

Coq rouge wrote:
NI is not making the Real Time OS in house. I do not remember which firm that is making it. Anyway you are allowed to use a hard drive that has been partitioned. And 126GB is some space is it not? I remember Bill Gates declared one time that 640Kb ram should be more than enough for any PC application also in the future
Coq Rouge (formerly t06afre),
The RealTime OS is an NI Product that is purchased from NI.
NI may or may not outsource design, developement, or manufacturing of the products that it sells under its own Company name.
For this reason I would be concerned if I were a PXI Embedded Controller designer/developer in the United States.
Yes, 126GB is some space. I see that there are now 2TB drives available. 126GB would be 6.3% of a new 2TB drive. Should we all be happy with being able to use 6.3% of the available drive space. Moore's Law seams to be alive and well. Drives larger than 126GB have been readily available for 5 or 6 Years. This should not be a surprise to NI. Why don't they do something about it.
Thanks for the trivia on Bill Gates. I must have missed that one since I don't try to keep up with Microsoft. I believe that he is a wonderful person and he and his family are doing wonders for the world in their "retirement". The world needs more like him.
What I do remember is Steve Jobs telling us that we would never need more that 128MB and that we would never to need to do anymore software development because everything was already in the "ToolBox".
McKevin.

How do I change the speed of a video clip after making it a Smart Object?

In order to apply the same Camera Raw filter to every segment of a clip I was going to split multiple times, I converted the whole clip to a Smart Object, applied my Camera Raw filter settings, and then split the clip and deleted some portions. Now I want to make certain portions of those clips slow-motion, but even if I right-click on the right side of the layer and select "Clear Smart Filters", all I see when I right-click on the clip in the timeline are the motion options; I can no longer change the speed or the audio. Is there a way to do this without having to make all the cuts in the beginning, changing the speed and the audio, and then having to go back and convert each individual segment into a smart object and then apply the same ACR filter to each one?

Brett,
Thanks for addressing this question. I tried it and see that the embedded file is the entire clip that I started with, not the trimmed version that I turned into a SO, but at least I could go back and make a change that way in a pinch.
If you wouldn't mind looking at this video between :50 and 1:40, and tell me if you think that AE or PP would give me significantly better results in the jumping segments where I slowed it down to 25%: 2014-06-26 And the last thing I expected to see jump out of the box was Albert Einstein! on Vimeo. I am trying to keep my expenses down by only using PS CC for video editing, and love the Camera Raw filter capabilities. By using PS CC it also lets me lay down my audio and edit to the audio w/o, as Mylenium suggested, outputting my file from PS CC into either AE or PP to do the slow-mo part.
Thanks again for your help!
Tara

PS CC Video Layer Smart Object error

I think I have found a bug, I'd like to see if it's reproducible for others. I don't know what the actual error is, but the error message says 'Photoshop could not complete the request because of a program error' (which I'm guessing is just a general error message that could be any number of things). To cause the bug, create a new blank video layer, and draw something on a few frames. Convert the layer to a smart object, and make a copy of the object on the timeline. Add transform key frames to each layer. Save the file. At this point, the file should still be able to play what is on the timeline (for me it does). Close the file, and attempt to reopen. PS should be unable to open the file.
Additional Info:
Whether the Smart object is composed of a single layer, or multiple layers, the error occurs.
I've only tested it so far with scale/rotation transformations, may happen with opacity and position
Altering the opacity and position of the second smart object without setting key-frames doesn't cause the error (just altering the opacity from the layers panel for example, or moving the video layer with move tool).
Timeline frame rate doesn't seem to affect it one way or another.
A few times when I didn't cause the issue intentionally for testing, I was still able to open the file, but attempting to start playback would then cause the error, which would crash Photoshop altogether. In those cases, I was able to find that one of the smart object layers in particular would crash photoshop when visibility was enabled/disabled, so I was able to drag all the other layers into a new file, only loosing one layer.
EDIT: Just to add, my question was: Can other people reproduce this bug?

I can also reproduce this bug.
It is also reproducible by creating a regular document.
Add a few layers with content.
Convert a few of those layers into a smart object.
Animate the contents of the smart object.
Everything works as expected. Timeline plays. Looks good.
Save: Get PS error "Photoshop could not update smart object because of a program error"
Save the animated file as it's own PSD just in case.
Close.
Re-open: Nothing works. Cannot scrub timeline, cannot save for web, cannot play timeline, cannot move objects.
Everything results in the error: "Photoshop could not complete the request because of a program error"
I have inadvertently lost a few hours of work a couple of times now due to this bug. It sucks because the work is there right in front of me but none of it is accessible to me.

Smart Object Effects Not Shown in 'Play Slide' But Shown in Other 'Play' Modes?

Hi,
In Captivate 7, effects which I add to smart objects using 'Add Effect' in the Effects tab do not show when I 'Play Slide' but do show in any other 'Play' mode e.g. 'Play Project'. Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Richard

F3 Play Slide is only going to show you what you can see in Edit mode. It only moves the frame cursor across the timeline but does not publish the project to an output.
You can see a Live Preview of the effect applied to a given object by opening the Effects tab (Window > Effect), selecting the object on the slide, and then clicking Live Preview button.
But the best way to see how everything works is to either hit Cntrl + ENTER to publish and preview the project, or else hit F10 to publish to browser.
Rod Ward
http://www.infosemantics.com.au/troubleshoot-adobe-captivate

Hello, i'm creating a very simple animation in ps cs5, but when I try to transform a smart object in a frame, all the frames are affected by it. What can I do ? Thanks, Ep

Hello, i'm creating a very simple animation in ps cs5, but when I try to transform a smart object in a frame, all the frames are affected by it. What can I do ? Thanks, Ep

Ok, you are in frame animation mode. I thought cs5 had a timeline mode, but now I think I was wrong.
In frame animation mode what you do is in one frame you have the object rotated in one position, then select an other frame and rotate it. If it rotates the first frame, which I think it will. Create duplicate of the object in a new layer. Then rotate the second layer.
At this point in my example you would have two layers, one of which has a rotated object.
Clear the frames
Convert the two layers to frames.
You now have two frames, one for each layer.
Select both frames then click the tween button.
This will create the in between frames.
In the tween dialog box the higher the number of frames set here, will create a smoother animation but will result in a longer time frame for the animation to play.
Because Photoshop has no way of knowing which way the object should rotate, it is feasible for it to rotate the opposite direction or could look wonky. Just undo and add an in between layer showing how it should look in the middle, then continue on.
So your layers should be the following, a frame that shows all objects in their rest state.
All objects that remain in a rest state must be copied to the next layer (ctrl-j on Windows or cmd-j on Mac)
All subsequent layers are then used for rotating a duplicate of the object. (Ctrl j or cmd j)
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Smart object does not appear at specified time in slide.

Here's my issue: When I insert a speech bubble into the slide, set it to appear after 5.0 seconds and the display for the rest of the slide, it does not appear at the specified time. HOWEVER, if I move the speech bubble to appear at the very START of the slide, then it appears. I thought perhaps I needed to add an effect to make it work, so I selected the thought bubble, then added a "fly in" effect and set the time. It still won't appear at a specified time--only if I put it at the start of the slide.
Here's my question: Why won't the smart object (speech bubble) appear at a specified time, but it WILL appear if I set the "appear after" time to 0 seconds? I also have tried moving this on the timeline, and it still only shows at the start of the slide.
Many thanks for any help.

Previewed in browser and in normal preview mode. (Just clicking "preview from this slide).
Normal project -- not responsive.
And..I'm not worried. No need for wine. (Although I've never been known to refuse one if someone offers. )
Screenshots below. As you can see, the image is not set sa a button.
And, yes: I know there is a spelling error in the thought bubble. Just trying to get it to work first.
I think there may be a bug in the system, as I have noticed other weird things. (EG: The time indicators under "timeline" often disappear for no reason. I have to close out and re-lauch Captivate to get it back. (Clicking on "timeline" in Windows dropdown does nothing to correct the issue. Other things I've noticed is that the navigation works fine when I play the whole project through ONCE, but upon a second preview, all settings -- such as "jump to slide __" -- do not stick. When I go back in and re-enter all of the navigation slide commands, the same thing happens when I replay it. My client notices the same thing. Bizarre.)

Smart objects slowing down computer

Hi - I'm making animations in PS6 extended using timeline.
Some of the files are a bit hefty - 5 or 6 smart object files deep - and are making the computer go really slow [I have 8GB RAM and 1067Mhz].
I wondered if it might be caused by too many bits of info going backwards and forwards in the engine room ... and a defrag is necessary....??
I understand that the Mac only defrags files up to 10MB ... so these 60+MB files will be left out.
It starts to seize up after I've been working on a files ... going down into the deeper and deeper smart objects [eg a body with smart object arms going to smart hands going to smart fingers, etc]
Do you think I need to get a defrag program for this or would there be a cache somewhere which I can empty when the going gets rough, perhaps?
I don't have much else running at the time, by the way.
Many thanks
john

Hi,
mdimport is caused by Spotlight indexing. Do you have any external hard drive connected to your computer? If so, Spotlight is probably indexing it. If you don't want to look up files in your external hard drive using Spotlight, you can go to System Preferences->Spotlight and in the Privacy tab add the external drive. Or, you can wait until Spotlight indexes all the files, cpu usage by mdimport will eventually reduce.

Open as linked smart object

Hello,
iam looking for a solution to open files in a folder
and copy then into a document.
Its working good, but i need the files to be linked smart object.
Anyone knows a solution ?
Here my Code so far:
See in line 33. Convert to smart object: ?
var file = new File('C:/User_MY PATH.PSD'),
docRef = open(file);
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//Get all the files in the folder
var fileList = samplesFolder.getFiles()
// open each file
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    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
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        var idHrzn = charIDToTypeID( "Hrzn" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idHrzn, idPxl, 0.000000 );
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        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idVrtc, idPxl, 0.000000 );
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Photoshop CS4 smart object template just overwrote a raw file - HELP

So. I've been working in Photoshop extensively for about 6 years now and I am well aware that nothing we do in Photoshop or Lightroom is supposed to overwrite a raw file. I'm not talking about changing it to something a little lighter or darker, I'm talking about replacing a picture of one baseball player with another one - and the original? Gone.
Here's what happened: I have a poster template that contains several layers, 7 of which are smart objects. I change the pictures in the template by right-clicking the smart object layer and selecting "replace smart object," browsing to the new image, selecting, and here is what SHOULD happen: the target picture opens in Adobe camera raw, I make some small edits, click done or okay or something similar, and that new image has replaced the old one in the template. What DID happen was this: I followed the procedure above and selected my target raw file, the picture that was already in the template (the one I was trying to replace with my target file) opened in Adobe camera raw. I thought - Hey, that's wierd! Closed the ACR dialog and tried again. Same thing happened. I opened lightroom and saw - to my HORROR - that the target file had been changed to the same image that was in the template.
If it clarifies: pictures of player A (who played in 2009) is in all of the smart object layers in my template. I want to make that poster be of player B (who played in 2012) so I begin replacing all the smart objects. When I get to the 3rd image in the poster template, Photoshop overwrites my raw file of player B with the smart object photo of Player A. There were no photos of player A on the network drive that the picture of Player B was on. But there's one now. My raw file shows that it was modified about 10 minutes ago.
We tried undoing in Photoshop. That did nothing. We tried deleting the xmp file. That did nothing. We removed it from the lightroom catalog and reimported it. It is now a picture of Player A from 2009 and my picture of Player B from 2012 is just gone.
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Best,
Jamey

mojoimagery wrote:
Now - JJ - when you say "overlay files" - what do you mean? Because that feels like a good description for what happened.
We performed no save operation at any point during the sequence of events that ended with the image in one raw file being replaced by the image in the smart object.
As I wrote Smart Object layers embedded object is a copy of the original and if you replace it you replace it with a copy of some other object. Embedded object are copies and independent from the original. If after creating a smart Object layer who's embedded object is a copy of a raw file and its conversion settings. You change the original RAW files RAW conversion settings the smart object layer raw conversion setting are not changes for its a copy with independent raw conversion settings. When you replace a smart object layers contents you will replace the embedded object and you should replace it with an object the has the same pixel size and orientation. Because there is an associated transform for the object in the layer that is not replaced. The replacement is also a copy. If the original smart object was created using File Open where you choose a RAW file ACR would open with the RAW files current conversion settings. In ACR you can changes the setting then hold down the shift key to change the open image button to an Open Object button. Using that button ACR will open a smart object layer in Photoshop the contents of the embedded object is a copy of the RAW file and the current ACR settings. No File is written Photoshop is not a File Editor its a Document editor that has many data structures for different layer types. When you replace the contents of a smart object you will be put into a "Place" file selection dialog if you choose a raw file it should have the same orientation as the image being replaced because of the associated transform. When you choose a RAW file ACR will open and you can change the conversion settings however there will be no Open Image button instead there will be an OK button. There is also a save image button and you can save a RAW file that is a DNG file not a CR2 file. Like the DNG converter. If you click the OK button the embedded object in the smart object layer will be replaced with a copy of the selected RAW file and the current ACR settings. Again there is no file written Photoshop is not a File editor just the embedded smart object data is replaced in Photoshop smart object layer's data structure.
I do not think the use of smart objects in you process caused what you are experiencing and because it only happens once an a while I feel its more likely caused by some human error made during the processing in those cases. I would look elsewhere for what causing the overlay. In the place file selection dialog it is possible to rename files perhaps even by accident. Programs like LR and Bridge can rename and copy files perhaps overlay other files.

Program error when attempting to edit a vector smart object. Help?

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Hi there,
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I had children book story storis which created in Adobe illustrator CS 5 and I created art boards in Adobe photoshop cs 5.
After installting CS 6 i tried to edit the smart objects and it was not opeinging the smart object file in Illustrator.
I did some tests.
1) Right click on smart object layer and click export contents. Save on desktopp or anywhere you want. (I saved on desktop)
2) I had this file on my desktop (Vector Smart Object10.ai) but it didn't show any icon, which program should open this type of file.
3) Double click on the file and it pop up a extension window 'Click on change and select adobe illustrator' and press OK.
4) Go back to your photoshop file and right click on smart object layer and click dit content. now this time it opens up assets in illustrator.
ENJOY!
www.4d-studios.co.uk

Can you have the same smart object in two files?

The situation:
I have a 'base' file A, with two (different) smart objects B and C. Now I want B and C to both contain a third smart object D, and I can't get that to work.
I can place the same file as a smart object in B and C, but it becomes two different smart objects, which are seperately editable. I would like to be able to edit smart object D and the changes to be visible in both B and C and in turn in A.
Is this at all possible?
and please, I'm not looking for workarounds. I have plenty of those, but it would save me a lot of time time if this were possible.
thanks
btw working in photoshop CS5

@PECourtejoie
That's exactly what I need,
but,
some technical issues prevent it from working in Windows Vista or Windows 7
, I'm on win7
@c.pfaffenbichler
That's no problem. just 2 times a ctrl-s. Takes no time at all

Blurry smart objects in Photoshop Save for Web jpegs

I create graphs, etc in Illustrator, place them as Smart Objects in a master Photoshop file before outputing Save for Web jpegs to use as PowerPoint slide backgrounds. Everything created in Illustrator or Photoshop through that process (Quality 80 or 100 with any of the SfW options on or off) Save for Webs are blurry when imported (at 100%) into PowerPoint. The only way I have been able to get anything crisp in PowerPoint was saving a Photoshop pdf. However, that was only the text created in Photoshop. The Illustrator Smart Object part was still blurry. Anyone have any idea on the best process to combine Photoshop and Illustrator files into one file for import into PowerPoint as a clean, crisp background? At this point I am open to all suggestions.

There are parts that are being added in Photoshop, hence going from Illustrator through Photoshop as a Smart Object and then onto PowerPoint. If I wasn't 5 months down the line and just nearing deadline, I would recreate everything in Illustrator. Assuming that I have to continue at this point down the Illustrator through Photoshop line of working, how do you designate pngs or jpegs to be 220ppi. Jpegs have a 1-12 quality (and 12 is still blurry).
Note regarding PowerPoint, I embed the full-page image into the background so others that are using this can't move (by accident or on purpose) the background.

Smart object - what happens to the pixels when i transform?

So i place an image into an open photoshop document, using the place command, of course. it is now a smart object, my question is when i transform or resize without constrain proportions( for example only enlarge the width, the hight unchanged) resample should occur right? are there pixels added only to the width and what kind of resample method is used? oh and how about when i warp this smart object, how do its pixels behave then?

Good day!
As far as I know the Image Interpolation Preference should determine the resample method.
Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

Open as "Smart Object" from ACR to PS questions.

I have 2 questions associated with opening from ACR as a Smart Object in Photoshop. I'm using CS4.
1. Is there a way to retrieve the original filename (complete with path) using a script or a setting somewhere to do this? I'm currently using Bridge Talk to ask Bridge what the active folder is then adding that to the document's .name property and taking off the " as Smart Object-1" part. Then I add a .psd extension to it and then I have to save it to retain that name unless there's an answer to #2 below.
2. Is there a way to change the Document's name as described above from "Filename as Smart Object-1" to "Filename.psd" without actually saving it?
It seems to me there would be a simple way that I might be overlooking here.
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Sorry, I guess I need to explain better.
I wrote a script to do this, but here is this portion of the workflow:
1. Open CR2 file in ACR and make adjustments.
2. Open as Smart Object in PS.
3. Script Events Manager activates this script on Document Open, checks to see if it was opened as a Smart Object. We'll assume it did.
4. The script asks me if I want to make another layer. I pick yes. The script copies the SO layer, sets an inverted mask, and opens to edit settings in ACR again.
5. I adjust the settings for that layer in ACR and click OK.
The script will keep looping between 4 and 5 as long as I pick YES.
This gives me more local control of areas. If I want to bring out eyes a bit, I can up contrast, saturation, sharpness, brightness, exposure, or whatever looks best for the eyes in ACR, then unmask the eyes as much as I want on that layer in Photoshop. There is more data to pull from in the RAW file vs trying to do the same thing within Photoshop.
Opening as a regular image file then converting to a SO doesn't give me the same control. I would have to reopen the file separately, make the adjustments in ACR, open to PS then copy that document and paste as a new layer in the original.
Duplicating the document might work also, but I can also just save as .psd at that point since I'd have to know the path name by then anyway. I'll give that a try, though, and see if it might work better. The only catch with the save part is it slows me down waiting for it to write the file and if I have 5+ SO layers, it takes awhile. Once I unmask where I want, I flatten to a rasterized layer and continue.
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