Smart objects as tiff files?

If I want to animate a logo with objects I created in Adobe Illustrator in Motion, can I then save the vector pieces as smart object tiff files in Photoshop in order to make scalable images for the animation? Thanks!

Ah - sorry for misreading - See if specialcase's Illustrator to Motion Shape script won't help you:
http://www.motionsmarts.com/downloads.html
Patrick

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Raw file settings missing from smart objects in tiff files after upgrade to CS6

Yesterday I was using Photoshop CS5 and RAW 6.4 (?) in a Windows environment.
When editing photographs, I generally open the photo in Camera Raw, make development changes (ie exposure, contrast, etc) and then open the developed image as Smart Object in Photoshop. I then clone, add layers, masks, etc. and then save the final image as a tiff.
Yesterday, I upgraded to Photoshop CS6 and RAW 7.0. Now, when I open my tiff files and Smart Objects in the RAW editor, my exposure, contrast, and black settings are missing (reset to zero). My graduated filter settings are also missing.
It seems to me that the embedded sidecar data in the tiff / Smart Object is not being read correctly.
How can I update my old tiff / Smart Objects? Re-developing thousands of photos is impractical.
NOTE: As a side note, I opened a RAW file with xmp data (not stored as a tiff/Smart Object) and had no problems.
Many thanks.

You need to set the ACR engine to the 2010 version in the prefs.
Mylenium

Can you have the same smart object in two files?

The situation:
I have a 'base' file A, with two (different) smart objects B and C. Now I want B and C to both contain a third smart object D, and I can't get that to work.
I can place the same file as a smart object in B and C, but it becomes two different smart objects, which are seperately editable. I would like to be able to edit smart object D and the changes to be visible in both B and C and in turn in A.
Is this at all possible?
and please, I'm not looking for workarounds. I have plenty of those, but it would save me a lot of time time if this were possible.
thanks
btw working in photoshop CS5

@PECourtejoie
That's exactly what I need,
but,
some technical issues prevent it from working in Windows Vista or Windows 7
, I'm on win7
@c.pfaffenbichler
That's no problem. just 2 times a ctrl-s. Takes no time at all

Smart Objects without tmp files

I am trying to place/ import a .psd as a smart object into a composite and have Photoshop keep referenceing that same psd witout it creating a local tmp file.
does anyone know fi this can be done?
Thanks!

Embedded objects are independent of any original file. Embedded objects are a copy of whatever (file, layer, group, etc) anything supported by Photoshop. You can have smart object layers in a document that share a common object. If you replace that common shared object all the smart object layers that share that the object pixels will change and be transformed by the smart object layer's associated transform. This is often used for creating picture packages. However the replacement object must be the same size as the original object for all the transforms to work correctly.
In fact when you update a smart object layer by double clicking on a layer's smart icon in the layers palette. Photoshop copies the object into a unique file in your user id temp space the first time you double click on a layers smart icon as a work file. This file will remain there till the document containing the object the temp file was created for is closed in Photoshop. If you make more the a single edit to a smart object layer in an edit session the same file will be use only a single temp file is used any given object. Photoshop will delete any temp files it created for a document when the document is closed in Photoshop. When users commit changes to the temp work file Photoshop will update the documents embedded object. The work file may be updated by Photoshop or a Plug-in like ACR.
There have been threads about creating metadata links for Smart Object layer to help user try to keep things in sync. I don't know if its possible or that is that desirable not to have versions of objects

CS5 is opening raw files as a smart object to files im currently working

I just bough new CS 5 and find this big error. When i open raw file in Camera Raw and i have opened some jpg in CS5, it always opened as a smart object to this small jpg i have opened before. The same is doing my CS 5 when i drag some file from desktop, it always ended as a smart object in file im currently working with. Normaly it has to open as a new file not as a smart object in this file im already working with.

How are you opening your RAW files? If you are dragging and dropping them onto Photoshop, on top of an already opened file's workspace - all files will be placed as smart objects. If you drag the files to anywhere else in the interface, for instance the grey area on top of the workspace, they should open as usual. If you are opening them via Bridge or by double-clicking them in Explore, they should open as normal.

Lightroom Unable to Import HDR Image File Opened as Smart Object

I just started using Nik HDR Efex Pro and created an image file in PS CS4 Extended which was opened as a smart object and saved to play around with later. The image shows up in Photoshop as "[image number]_hdr.tif" and both PS CS4 Extended and CS5 have no problem opening it. But I cannot import it into LR3. LR3 gives me a dialogue box which says in effect that the image file cannot be imported because it is corrupt or unsupported. I am guessing the latter because (perhaps) as a smart object the image file is 32bit(?) In any event, has anyone tried and had luck importing to LR3 in this circumstance? Is it "operator error" or just something LR cannot handle? Also, if you have encountered this problem, do you have a workaround? Thanks in advance.

Hi,
The backend for middleware should be same as what it was in MI.
the erro comes when the corrosponding structure in a bapi doesnot exists in current backend.
Please check if the structure ZEFLMI_DOC_HDR_T51 exists in backend.
Thanks,
Rohit

Smart objects generate huge ( 10 GB) temp files ??

Hi folks. I think there's a bug in CS3's smart object handling. Everytime I move (not resize!) a smart object, the temp file's size increases by some 100-200 MB. I easily get over 10 GB just by moving around a single object repeatedly.
I find that quite weird, given that normal layer moving does not significantly alter the temp file's size. And PS only has to store the smart objects new X and Y coordinates as the object itself does not change. Am I missing something ? Anybody knows what's going on ?

Converting Smart objects back to embedded layers would be a very useful addition. "Return to layers" would be a good term for it.
If you are looking for real world examples where this would be useful Chris
to simplify and bring down the file size of a file that has got out of hand with smart Objects. Some sort of global command "embed all Smart objects" in the layer/smart objects menu would also be useful for this purpose.
Objects of the same res and profile could then be non-destructively edited by swapping them in and out of smart objects for direct editing within the master document.
would be particularly useful when for example you need to detach a single instance of a duplicated SO from the others.
There is sometimes a need to return layers, and adjustments back into the master document to directly modify how they interact with their surroundings in terms of color and masking - for compositing. Its useful for simplicity to have them tucked away as SO's still
Of course data loss due to resampling, bit depth and modes could be greeted with a warning, perhaps the warning could be contextual "this operation will result in data loss, will decrease file size by 75%, change its mode from LAB, and resample the embedded pixels to 120%".
What happens to the smart-filters? if they are there, a choice either to rasterise them or abandon them

Return file to resolution of Smart Object?

I often make a photo into a Smart Object within my file and then resize my file smaller for web.
That way I can keep a copy of my original photo at full size but apply colour correction, sharpening etc at the web size.
So lets say the image dimensions are 300px wide but that file holds a smart object that is much larger.
Is there an easy way to return the file to the larger size without losing my color adjustment layers etc?
I know I can just make it larger but I want to return to the exact size of the smart object without having to open said smart object, record the size and then go back and enter it.

emil emil wrote:
conroy wrote:
Sudarshan Thiagarajan wrote:
After you resize your SO to the size it originally was not in, hit Cmd + T or Ctrl + T (Win) to go to Free Transform mode. Then on the menu bar, resize the W & H values to 100%. It will revert the SO to its 100% dimension.
Follow that with Image > Reveal All.
This will work only if the rest of the layers are adjustment layers without having any masks. If there are masks they will not scale along.
I believe all that menu "Image>Reveal All" does is simply add canvas to the document so that the canvas size will not mask off any pixels of any layer. No other resizing is done. The canvas size may actually be larger then the smart object image layer layer's size after the Image Reveal All. The actual Smart Object Image layer will still be 100% image size and may be smaller then canvas size. So IMO conroy is correct. The smart object layer will be still be 100% images size after the image reveal all operation and none of its pixels will be masked off by the canvas size..
If other layers are involved that create a composite image. Image Size would be the proper tool the resize all the layers involver. How well the other layers resize back up depends of the layers. Transforming only the smart object image layer is not the proper thing to do. It would be best to group all layers involved in the composite including the smart object image layer into a single smart object layer before the original down size.
Message was edited by: JJMack

Open as linked smart object

Hello,
iam looking for a solution to open files in a folder
and copy then into a document.
Its working good, but i need the files to be linked smart object.
Anyone knows a solution ?
Here my Code so far:
See in line 33. Convert to smart object: ?
var file = new File('C:/User_MY PATH.PSD'),
docRef = open(file);
// Use the path to the application and append the samples folder
var samplesFolder = Folder('C:/USERS_MY FOLDER');
//Get all the files in the folder
var fileList = samplesFolder.getFiles()
// open each file
for (var i = 0; i < fileList.length; i++)
// The fileList is folders and files so open only files
if (fileList[i]instanceof File)
open(fileList[i])
// use the document name for the layer name in the merged document
var activeDocName = app.activeDocument.name;
var targetDocName = activeDocName.substring(0, activeDocName.lastIndexOf("."));
// Copy the Document
app.activeDocument.selection.selectAll()
//convertToSmartObject(); THIS ISNT WORKING - CONVERT IT ?
app.activeDocument.selection.copy()
// don’t save anything we did
app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES)
//Select specific layer to paste the copy, this is to make sure the layers are in a specific position
var doc = app.activeDocument;
doc.activeLayer = doc.artLayers.getByName("bgr");
//Paste Document
app.activeDocument.paste()
app.activeDocument.activeLayer.name = targetDocName

Use scriptlistener:
var idPlc = charIDToTypeID( "Plc " );
    var desc2 = new ActionDescriptor();
    var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
    desc2.putPath( idnull, new File( "C:\\Photos\\myPhoto.psd" ) );
    var idLnkd = charIDToTypeID( "Lnkd" );
    desc2.putBoolean( idLnkd, true );
    var idFTcs = charIDToTypeID( "FTcs" );
    var idQCSt = charIDToTypeID( "QCSt" );
    var idQcsa = charIDToTypeID( "Qcsa" );
    desc2.putEnumerated( idFTcs, idQCSt, idQcsa );
    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
        var desc3 = new ActionDescriptor();
        var idHrzn = charIDToTypeID( "Hrzn" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idHrzn, idPxl, 0.000000 );
        var idVrtc = charIDToTypeID( "Vrtc" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idVrtc, idPxl, 0.000000 );
    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
    desc2.putObject( idOfst, idOfst, desc3 );
executeAction( idPlc, desc2, DialogModes.NO );

Documents with Smart Objects - Very slow to open and Save - CS6 Photoshop

When opening and saving documents with smart objects photoshop freezes the adobe PS loader (circle dots) is replaced and the system loader (multi colored wheel of death) spins for 30 seconds or more.
What I've tried so far based off looking at various posts.
Photoshop Preferenes
Save in Background off
Maximise PSD and PSB file compatability never
Cache Tile Size: 128k
Advanced Graphic Processor Settings: Basic & Normal
Layer Panel options: No Thumbnail
Observations and workthroughs to date
The file size and amount of smart objects effects the file expotentially i.e. The more smart objects you have the worse it gets
These files worked perfectly in PS CS5
It also happens on files natively created in PS CS6
The CPU is maxing out at 100% while PS loads
Closing or opening suitcase has no effect.
System:
iMac 27-inch, Mid 2011
Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)
Suitcase 4
Anyone got any ideas? This is making me go nuts!

A solution!
It turns out the problem in my case was in fact Suitcase. Previously, I'd tried turning it off, but that didn't fix the problem, so this time, I uninstalled it completely and the problem disappeared. I then began re-adding it (installed 15.0.1, upgraded it, etc.) and the problem resurfaced with the addition of the Photoshop-specific plugin. Deleting that plugin solved the problem. So it seems that "disabling" Suitcase by stopping the TypeCore doesn't seem to actually disable all of the tentacles it sticks into your system.
You can find the plugin here: Applications / Adobe Photoshop CS6 / Plug-ins / Automate / ExtensisFontManagementPSCS6.plugin
(After a restart, I also had to delete the font cache, as described here http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/troubleshoot-fonts-photoshop-cs5.html but your mileage may vary.)
Alternately, if you don't want to delete the plugin, disabling it from within Photoshop seems to work as well. To do that, go to File > Automate > Extensis, click Preferences..., then deselect Enable Suitcase Fusion 4 Auto-Activation.
Fortunately, the plugin doesn't seem necessary at all to use the the core functionality of Suitcase (enabling and disabling fonts) in Photoshop. I didn't even know what these app-specific plugins did until researching this problem, and I still don't quite understand the point of them. I guess they allow you to let the apps for which they're installed do a little bit more of their own management (enable a font via Suitcase that isn't enabled system-wide), but that seems like more control than I need--if I'm enabling a font, I want all my software to be able to use it.
Anyway, the problem seems to be completely solved on my system now, though I just did all this, so more testing over the next few days is required. I'll post here if any issues crop up. I'm interested in hearing if this solves it for anyone else as well.

Batch Replace Smart Object With Different Image Quality and Sizes

Hi there,
I need help. I have this template that is in 1000x1000pixel and 300 dpi. I'm trying to replace the smart object inside with various JPEG that I have. These JPEG comes in large image sizes but lower than 300dpi. The issues is, when I run the script that I have, some of the pictures become really pixelated. Beforehand, I resized them to fit into the empty place in sizes that I find fit the best (8 cm x 6 cm). Some of them work okey, but then some of them just pretty bad. I'm wondering if you can help me fix the script that I have so I didn't have to resized the images before running the script, and for all of them to automatically fit into my template without altering the quality of the image that I put in.
below is the script that I am using and the screenshot of my template:
#target photoshop
if (app.documents.length > 0) {
var myDocument = app.activeDocument;
var theName= myDocument.name.match(/(.*)\.[^\.]+$/)[1];
var thePath = myDocument.path;
var theLayer = myDocument.activeLayer;
// psd options;
psdOpts = new PhotoshopSaveOptions();
psdOpts.embedColorProfile = true;
psdOpts.alphaChannels = true;
psdOpts.layers = true;
psdOpts.spotColors = true;
// check if layer is smart object;
if (theLayer.kind != "LayerKind.SMARTOBJECT") {alert ("selected layer is not a smart object")}
else {
// select files;
if ($.os.search(/windows/i) != -1) {var theFiles = File.openDialog ("please select files", "*.psd;*.jpg;*.jpeg;*.tif", true)}
else {var theFiles = File.openDialog ("please select files", getFiles, true)};
if (theFiles) {
// work through the array;
for (var m = 0; m < theFiles.length; m++) {
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theLayer = replaceContents (theFiles[m], theLayer);
var theNewName = theFiles[m].name.match(/(.*)\.[^\.]+$/)[1];
//Raise color picker for Back cover;
try {
app.activeDocument.activeLayer = app.activeDocument.layers[app.activeDocument.layers.length - 1];
// =======================================================
var idsetd = charIDToTypeID( "setd" );
var desc7 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
var ref2 = new ActionReference();
var idcontentLayer = stringIDToTypeID( "contentLayer" );
var idOrdn = charIDToTypeID( "Ordn" );
var idTrgt = charIDToTypeID( "Trgt" );
ref2.putEnumerated( idcontentLayer, idOrdn, idTrgt );
desc7.putReference( idnull, ref2 );
var idT = charIDToTypeID( "T " );
var desc8 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idClr = charIDToTypeID( "Clr " );
var idsolidColorLayer = stringIDToTypeID( "solidColorLayer" );
desc7.putObject( idT, idsolidColorLayer, desc8 );
executeAction( idsetd, desc7, DialogModes.ALL );
} catch (e) {};
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function getFiles (theFile) {
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function replaceContents (newFile, theSO) {
app.activeDocument.activeLayer = theSO;
// =======================================================
var idplacedLayerReplaceContents = stringIDToTypeID( "placedLayerReplaceContents" );
var desc3 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
desc3.putPath( idnull, new File( newFile ) );
var idPgNm = charIDToTypeID( "PgNm" );
desc3.putInteger( idPgNm, 1 );
executeAction( idplacedLayerReplaceContents, desc3, DialogModes.NO );
return app.activeDocument.activeLayer

Thank you for your answer.
I was resizing it before from bigger image size to a smaller one (121 cm to 8 cm) which fit my template size. But the dpi remains in 72 which makes the picture pixelized.
I am wondering if I can find a script that will keep the size of the first image that I put on the template for other images that I place, regardless the size they are imported to. Basically, how to make them all fit into the template regardless the size.
Thank you for the info about the scripting forum. I will write there too.
Sorry, I'm so new to this

Smart Object opening as .jpg instead of .psb

I received a file from another person – I didn't create it. It contains a Smart Object, which is indicated in the layer thumbnail. When I double-click to edit the smart object, a .jpg file opens, not a .psb. I know I can flatten it after making the changes and re-save it so the Smart Object updates in the PSD, but what I want to know is, why does this happen in the first place? Shouldn't a Smart Object always open a .psb?

If you placed a JPG file, then the smart object is a JPG file.
PSB is only used when Photoshop creates the smart object from layers, because PSB can contain everything in a Photoshop document.

Smart Object as traditional link (as in InDesign or Illustrator)

Is there a way to link a smart object, so that updates are made to the originally placed object ....as opposed to creating a new vector file save in a temporaray folder. Is there a way to work with smart object like traditional links in InDesign and Illustrator?
Thanks

Check out this Links Panel that let’s you create Linked Smart Objects to external files:
http://www.ps-scripts.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3045&sid=70f368dca9bfd96f3c974ee11b798f9 7

How open and copy smart object

Hi,
I read topics about smart objects but i not found solution on my problem.
1. I need open smart object layer
2. copy all layers from the smart object to another file
Thanks

I think you may be better off just copying the smart object layer from the source document into the target document. There may be several different resolutions involved and other complexities. Within a smart object layer there is a copy of the original object. So how the smart object layer was created determines what the imbedded object is. A smart object may be many thing. Could be a copy of a raw file, a copy of a layered file, contain a group of layers created from within the source document. There is a transform associated with smart object layers. When you open a smart layer into Photoshop so you can edit the embedded smart object it opens at the resolution and size of the object which may be different then the document its a layer in. The transform is only associated the layer not the object. Once open into Photoshop you can of course dupe the layers into the target document. It may be a bit complex for some layers may have layer mask and perhaps other layers clipped to it or be within a group then there is the layers visibility state. If you have both the source document and target document open in Photoshop it is easy co copy a layer from the source document to the target document. If the source layer is a smart object the associated transform will also be copied to the target document however it easy re transform the smart object layer in the target document. In the source document target the smart object layer the use menu Layers>Duplicate Layer... in the Duplicate Layer dialog in the destination section use the pull down menu to select the target document You can use the scriptlistener plugin to capture the action manager code to do that.
// =======================================================
var idDplc = charIDToTypeID( "Dplc" );
    var desc24 = new ActionDescriptor();
    var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
        var ref14 = new ActionReference();
        var idLyr = charIDToTypeID( "Lyr " );
        var idOrdn = charIDToTypeID( "Ordn" );
        var idTrgt = charIDToTypeID( "Trgt" );
        ref14.putEnumerated( idLyr, idOrdn, idTrgt );
    desc24.putReference( idnull, ref14 );
    var idT = charIDToTypeID( "T   " );
        var ref15 = new ActionReference();
        var idDcmn = charIDToTypeID( "Dcmn" );
        ref15.putName( idDcmn, "Untitled-2" ); <====================================== target document
    desc24.putReference( idT, ref15 );
    var idVrsn = charIDToTypeID( "Vrsn" );
    desc24.putInteger( idVrsn, 5 );
executeAction( idDplc, desc24, DialogModes.NO );

Copy in illustrator, paste in photoshop as smart object problem

Hello. I am posting this here hoping that this message might be seen by someone more experienced who knows the answer. I have already tried to find a solution on my own, but to no avail, and I already lost a whole day just with this problem.
I'm trying to build an example website, in anticipation for a real one that I want to build later on. I've done the wireframing and design (some of it) in illustrator, and now I want to copy to photoshop what I did in illustrator. I need to copy it as a smart object. The problem is that when I copy to photoshop, even though I choose the same dimensions, the file is not the same size. I have inserted some images to try to explain this more clear.
These are some settings in illustrator.
These are the dimensions in illustrator.
I select the whole content from illustrator, copy it
And after that I go to photoshop. I choose to create a new file
Even though when I created a new file in photoshop I selected the same dimensions that were in illustrator (960 px 1810px), the copied object does not match the canvas when I press enter.
I've searched online for people that had the same problem and I found something somewhat similar, but not helpful. The problem for them was that the anti-alias was not selected. However, as can be seen in the images, in my case the anti-alias is selected. The difference I noticed is that for them the W and H are both directly 100% when the object is pasted into photoshop, but for me this never happens, it is always something different. In the images here it is w 99.99% H 99.94%, and I created another layout before this that had even worse dimensions, something like W 97.68% H 98%. I tried to fix this by putting manually 100% for each before I press enter, I even selected the "maintain aspect ration" icon (situated between W and H) but after that the image gets distorted.
I should also mention that I created different other smart objects with these files and they have the same problem - I selected the header for example, made it a smart object, and every time they are introduced to photoshop they are not W 100% H 100% but are 9X % 9X% or something.
I also tried, when creating a new document in photoshop, to put instead of 72pixels/inch - 300pixels/inch and its the same problem..
I also looked at the illustrator file so that there are no strokes on the edges of the document.
So, please, if there is someone who know how to fix this, to paste it so that I will have the same dimensions (W 100% H 100% automatically) so that the documents will match how it is normal, I would really apreciate the help. If there are any other details and setting one might need, I will look for them and mention them after that. Thank you!

Use
file >> export > psd instead
Your resizing problem is coming from what is in your clipboard is not 960 x 1810, but larger (960.078 x 1810.048 as seen in your 3rd screenshot), and Photoshop is resizing trying to fit.
To fix this yourself, make a new document, your clipboard size will automaticallly be used if you make a new .psd doucment, then paste, than drag over to your 960 x 1810 .psd document and reposition.

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