Smart objects not updating (CS5)

I am using CS5 Photoshop and when I try to save edits on an opened smart object (eg. after editing a ‘placed’ photograph) a ‘Save As’ dialog box appears. When I save the edits to the smart object, using the prompted file name, they are not reflected in the master document.
Can anyone advise what the problem might be? Is the file path between the master document and smart object being lost?
Thanks for the help.
Justin

Yes I am apply layers to a JPEG. So it's solved by flattening the image and saving, but this mean I lose my fiter and masking layers.
Does that mean the quickest way would be to open the JPEG image before placing, save it as a PSD and then place it?

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hi, i'm currently stuck with and issue that's ruining my workflow and slowing me down.
the basic job is to photograph lamps and replace the background. (see hallmarklighting.com)
i usually do so by editing the original photo and cut it out with the pen tool, ending up with several layers of adjustments and whatnot. i take those layers and insert them into a smart object of a template file i made for the background, from there it's just a matter of saving the various output files (print/web/psd).
the issue is that just recently when i save the smart object, it doesn't update, the progress bar stops at about 75%. the program doesn't freeze nor does the computer. the layers are saved in the smart object, but it won't show up in the main file, preventing me from saving out the final image. it started last week. i have discovered if i flatten the image of the smart object, it works as it should. I'd be fine with this solution if i wasn't constantly asked to rework files for advertising materials and whatnot.
if anyone has a suggestion as to what could be causing this or how to fix it please let me know.
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Adobe Photoshop Version: 12.0.4 (12.0.4x20110407 [20110407.r.1265 2011/04/07:02:00:00 cutoff; r branch]) x64
Operating System: Mac OS 10.8.5
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:26, Stepping:5 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, HyperThreading
Physical processor count: 4
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2800 MHz
Built-in memory: 10240 MB
Free memory: 7966 MB
Memory available to Photoshop: 9299 MB
Memory used by Photoshop: 90 %
Image tile size: 128K
Image cache levels: 4

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Can you tell me how to access the workflow settings?
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Glad to see some interest. Thanks!
I've had it on both my old system and my new one, the old was a Dual 2.5 G5, the new one is a Dual 2.8 Quad. Both machines are kept fully up to date. The new ones system was created by updating off of the old one.
PS 10.0.1.
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I can't remember if I've ever seen the error on either my laptop (macBook) or the mac I use at work (Quad 2.7 G5), if it happens on either I'll mention it here.
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When I replace content of smart object in CS2 the content takes the size of previous state of smart object in pixels.
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PS. sorry for my english. hope you understand me.

Hi,
What version of Ps and AI are you using?
1. In Ps, there's no controls for the AI layer visibilty, but the visibility attributes should be respected.
2. The placed file is an embedded copy, not a link to an external file. However, there is a script that you might find useful for your purposes. I'm not sure if the Win support improved with CS5.
http://ps-scripts.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3045%20Brilliant%21%21
regards,
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