Sony EX1r versus Panasonic AG-HVX200a

I'm looking to take a big step forward on my next project and rent either a Sony PMW EX1r or Panasonic AG HVX200a. I believe I'll have to download software for either, and will need the dowload to use Log and Transfer rather than Log and Capture. Any thoughts on XDCam versus DVCPro for ease of use/end result with Final Cut Pro?

Thanks for you help, I did go with the HPX170. I used more than one P2 card during the shoot (and did keep labelled slot 1 and slot 2) after taking cards out and write protecting.
It's a documentary so I'm keeping all the footage just in case, and so would like to save all to my hard drive with a backup copy on an external hard drive.
I connected the camcorder via firewire and each card shows up as an individual storage device. I assume there may be clips that span both cards? If so, how do I make sure to copy in the correct order?
Thanks for your help.

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    Message was edited by: AppleMan1958
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    Message was edited by: AppleMan1958
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    I would stay away from both these cameras, unless you are severely constrained in your budget. They are both standard definition. If I was getting a new camera, I would definitely go for high definition AVCHD.
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    The best stabilizer is a Steadicam Merlin, but they cost around $800 and there is a learning curve that many people never get through.
    Message was edited by: AppleMan1958

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