Statistical in profit center

Hi,
"A profit center is always posted to statistically."
I know that profit center is not a co object but I do not understand what it means statistically.
If I enter profit center in revenue or expenses account in FB01, the relevant profit center will be updated accordingly. So what does it mean statistical?
Thanks

Hi, when posting to a revenue or expense account in FI in order for this to require a "real" cost object the account needs to be created as a cost element. If not then just entering the profit center will be sufficient and will be statisitcal If the cost elements exist SAP will expect a cost centre or other cost object at the time of posting. If it is a revenue element it will expect either a sales order, revenue wbs or profitability segment.
Hope this helps to clarify.
Kind regards
Paul

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