Profit center determination

Hi,
Can anyone help me understand how the profit centers are determined for the payables and receivables, customer vendor invoices line item postings in theory it says it is determined form the offset line item? can some one provide me with an example
One kind is from 3KEH table and if there is no profit defined there from where does the system picks up the profitcenter.
Thank you

All profit center postings are statistical.
We don't post anything to Profit Center directly. Profirt center is derived from CO object.
When we define Cost Center we assign Profit center to the Cost center. If a transaction is posted to that cost center Profit center assigned to that cost center gets posted.
Likewise all cost objects are assigned with Profit Center. If by anychance any cost Object is not assigned with profit Center the transaction is posted to Dummy Profit Center by system automatically. This is necessary for reconciliation between FI and CO. We have to settle dummy profit center transactions periodically to the correct Profit center.
If you run Profit center assignment monitor, you will find which cost object is not assigned with profit center.
Hope you are clear about Profit Center assignment.
Yarra Prasad

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Hello,
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Hello,
I assume you had setup "Single Object Controling" for your scenario and the profit center are in connection with the internal order which is created in case of "Single Object Controling"
See :Single-Object Controlling - Generic Functions in Service - SAP Library
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Checked the message described above, how you can distinguish between which material from which plant? any solution depends on it. From my experiences, I think there're some options as follows;
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