Streams with DataGuard design advice

I have two 10gR2 RAC installs with DataGuard physical copy mode. We will call the main system A and the standby system B. I have a third 10gR2 RAC install with two-way Streams Replication to system A. We will call this RAC system C.
When I have a failure scenario with system A, planned or unplanned, I need for system C's Streams Replication to start replicating with system B. When the system A is available again I need for system C to start replicating with system A again.
I am sure this is possible, and I am not the only one that wants to do something like this, but how? What are the pitfals?
Any advice on personal experience with this would be greatly appreciated!

Nice concept and I can only applaud to its ambitions.
+"I am sure this is possible, and I am not the only one that wants to do something like this".+
I would like to share your confidence, but i am afraid there are so many pitfalls than success will depends on how much pain you and you hierarchy can cope with.
Some thoughts:
Unless your dataguard is Synchronous, at the very moment where A fails, there will be missing TXN in C,
which may have been applied in B as Streams is quite fast. This alone tells us that a forced switch cannot
be guarantee consistent : You will have errors and some nasty one such as sequence numbers consumed
on A (or B) just before the crash, already replicated to B (or A)but never shipped to C. Upon awake C will
re-emit values already known on B (dup key on index?)
I hope you don't sell airplane ticket for in such a case you can sell some seats twice.
Does C have to appear as another A or is it allowed to have a different DB_NAME? (How will you set C in B?
is C another A which retakes A name or is C a distinct source).if C must have the same DB_NAME, the global
name must be the same. Your TNS construction will be have to cope with 2 identical TNS entry in your network
referring to 2 different hosts and DB. Possible with cascade lines at (ADDRESSES= ... , but to be tested.
If C is another A then C must have the same DB_name as LCR do have their origin DB name into them.
If C has a distinct name from A it must have its on apply process, not a problem it will be idle while A is alive,
but also a capture that capture nothing while A is alive, for it is Capture site who is supposed to send the ticks
to advance counters on B. Since C will be down in normal time, you will have to emulate this feature periodically
reseting the first_scn manually for this standby capture - you can jump archives providing you jump to another
archive with built in data dictionary - or accept to create a capture on B only when C wakes up. The best would
be to consider C as a copy of B (multi-master DML+DDL?) and re-instantiate tables without transferring any data
the apply and capture on C and B to whatever SCN is found to be max on both sites when C wakes up.
All this is possible, with lot of fun and hard work.
As of the return of the Jedi, I mean A after its recovered from its crash you did not tell us if the re-sync C-->A
is hot or cold. Cold is trivial but If it is hot, it can be done configuring a downstream capture from C to A with
the init SCN set to around the crash and re-load all archives produced on C. But then C and A must have a different
DB_name or maybe setting a different TAG will be enough, to be tested. Also there will be the critical switch
the multi-master replication C<-->B to A<-->B. This alone is a master piece of re-sync tables.
In all cases, I wish you a happy and great project and eager to hear about it.
Last, there was a PDF describing how to deal with dataguard switch with a DB using streams, but it is of little help,
for it assumes that the switch is gentle : no SCN missing. did not found it but maybe somebody can point a link to it.
Regards,
Bernard Polarski

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    I would be grateful if you someone could explain how to handle such binary file stream with LabView and send an example to illustrate it.
    Many thanks in advance for your help.
    Donat-Pierre

    One more step...
    short are U16 integer
    double are double precision float
    bool seem to be 2 bytes (= U16)
    char are string (variable length)
    rgb are U16 integer, with high order byte = 0
    rect should be 4 x U16 (top, left, bottom, right)
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