Subcontract GRN
Dear All,
I have done PO with only Item category L not used Account assignement category,
I used BOM also.
I have done Subcontract PO then Wrt this PO when we are doing Subcontract GRN then system asking me Asset code,
when i checked in Material master this is Raw material, i cant understand why system asks asset code,
Every Subcontract GRN time system asks Asset codes, i checked J1id there is also Raw materials.
please guide me, & suggest me.
Thanks
Shital
As far as I remember (I am not reallu sure) system determine the asset upon account assignment.
So if you ask system to post in GL accont which is defined as asset account you have to enter an asset number
So suggest that you check :
1- the valuation class in the material master data,
then
2- check the account assigned to the valuation class of your material (go to trx FBKP>Automatic posting>Material management posting, the key BSX..)
What is the G/L account assigned to this valuation class it mustn't be an asset account
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Subcontract GRN - disable quantity field for 543 movement type
Dear All,
1) while making the GRN for subcontract PO the raw material will get consumed by 543 movement type but here the field is editable and we need to make it uneditable
2) also if you might have observed that raw material qty will be calculated as per ratio but if i change the semi-finished matl qty the consumption qty of RM is not amended immdiately and if we need to take as per ratio in PO, we need to close the line by pressing " + " and amend the semi-finished qty and system will calculate the ratio and you can check by again pressing "+"
this is certainly not desirable and we need the change in RM qty immedietely after changing semifinished goods qty.
Please suggest me how to make it without help of ABAPER.
Regards,
VimleshHi,
Saying with regret that it is not possble in standard SAP .we had faced the same problem at my cleint side.We had gone for a custom development where the quantity field against the Input material will be not editable .
Regards
Sandeep -
Subcontracting GRN - Problem with UOM
Hi all
I have a small problem while making GRN for subcontracting.
Actually we are maintaining EA each as the UOM for both the finished product and the raw material. And two raw materials are needed to make a single finished product.
While doing GRN if the quantity of the finished product is odd ( eg:1,3,etc.....) then the raw material quantity should be of half the quantity of finished produc( eg: 0.5,1.5,etc ) But it is taking the next round off value like 1,2,etc.....
It has to be manually changed. Is there any option like maintaining alternate unit of measure for EA so that the system will automatically indicate the quantity for the raw material.
Thanks and Regards
SivaHi
Even if maintaining the decimal place in CUNI, it is not picking up the value .....
But can we maintain the decimal place for EA as it is a Standard UOM. ?
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Edited by: Sivaprakash R on Apr 3, 2009 2:59 PM -
Dear Experts
Pls tell me at the time of subcontracting goods recipt what accounting
entry is system going to pass.
pls tell me with example of amount
I am little bit confused
In my system system is passing the entry like this
Stock Account semi finished::: 3000 Dr
GR/IR Account ::: 3000 Cr
Change In Stock ::: 3000 Cr
Conversion Labour Charges::: 3000 Dr
Stock Account RM ::: 58097.72 Cr
Consumption of Rm 58097.72 Dr
Is it correct pls clarify
Regards
Nitin ShuklaThis might help you:
http://www.sap-img.com/materials/sub-contracting-cycle.htm
1) When we received the Finished Goods:
DR Finished Goods Stock 3000
CR Change in Stock 3000
2) For Amount Payable to Supplier or Sub contractor:
DR Charges for Subcontracting( Conversion Labour charges) 3000
CR GR/IR Clearing account 3000
3) When Material provided to Vendor is charged to expense head
DR Consumption of components/Raw Materials 58097.72
CR Change in Stock(Stock Account of Raw material) 58097.72
i Hope this will clear your Doubts.
Regards,
Ajay.
Edited by: AJAY TIWARI on Jul 27, 2009 9:28 PM -
Subcontracting Scenario -urgent
Hi all
our clients requires different scenario how would we map these into the SAP
1-We send the material to Sub contracting Vendor for Machining operation suppose 100 piece. but Vendor make the some pieces faulty (Rejection) like 10 piece.
2- by default vendor send some pieces without doing any machining operation.like 5 piece out of 100
3- Some times we issues material defect pieces to subcontracting vendor by default
4- Component we have already received but some of them are get reject on production line but component can be rectify and for rectification we send the component back to Vendor for precessing without paying anything to vendor for this rectification
How would we map these four scenario in SAP
These are the scenario please gives your valuable suggestion to map into SAP
Thanks
Edited by: JAM SAP on Feb 10, 2008 4:23 PMDear Jam as far as my knowledge is concerned you can refer the Subcontract Scenario mentioned below :
1) 100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and in Quality 10 Pcs gets rejected 90 is accepted
In this scenario -if you are having quality check then material will be in blocked stock in quality rejection,and the material can be sent to scrap(or Rejection) stores but if you dont have quality check in that case when GRN of subcontracting PO is done for that you can do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
2)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing
In this scenario-you can simply do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the Rawmaterial (which was sent to vendor for processing) stores during that movement.
3)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,out of which 10 pcs of RM which was sent for processing is defective GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing which are defective from our side back.
In this scenario-you can do 542 movement of the raw material-defective pcs which was sent to vendor ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
4)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and 100 pcs is accepted but during processing it is found that the component which is in WIP which was received from subcontractor 10 pcs are not machined properly so it has to be reworked and to be sent back to subcontracting vendor for
reprocessing and this processing should be w/o charges.
Well in this case the WIP component which is found that it is not m/ced properly can be taken back into stock with 502 movement -T code-MB1C or it material to material transfer can be done ...i.e from WIP stock i am doing RM stock with 309 movement ,T Code-MB1A so that my original RM can be in stock and i can send this RM or WIP item to the vendor for reworking.
For this you will have to make a subcontracting PO of the 10 Pcs which has to be reworked with Free Item to be ticked in PO(Because you dont want the charge of processing to be given to vendor). You will be doing the 541 movement so that in system it will show that stocks are lying with vendor , Create Challan ,
T Code -J1if01 and after processing vendor will send it back .so you will do GRN of this subcontract PO and now the same can be utilised for further production purpose.
WELL DEAR FRIEND HERE IN ALL THE SCENARIO I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ABT SUBCONTACTING CHALLAN RECONCILATION (J1iFq),You will have to take care of that in each of these scenarion mentioned above.
Hope this information will be of some use to you
Regds
Shailesh -
Operation subcontracting - excess component issue to vendor
Hi gurus,
Operation subcontracting
Issue of component to operation subcontractor with excess material.
After goods receipt from subcontracting what is the impact at subcontractor vendor stock , costing and financial for excess issue stock.
example
As per BOM component qty (suppose to issue) is 10
After altering in PO issue component qty will be issued 15
At the time of receivable of subcontracting (GRN) where and what is the status of 5 qty?
Regards,
RAMDo MB1B - Matl Movement Type - 542 w.ref. to P.O(excess 5 qty).
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MIGO process step by step..
Hi guru's
can anybody send the MIGO process in step by step..
After receving the goods wht are all enteries i want to do in MIGO...
Thanks in advance..
sap-mmDear
after creating PO and get it release you can enter the Material through MIGO t-code with the mvt 101/103
101 is for that the material is in our company and 103 for in our inventory
if you are creating subcontracting grn than the mvt is 541/543
541 for send the material to the vendor and 543 is transfer from vendor to our co.
if the material is reject after 101 you can reverse through 102
and if after 103 then you have to do 105 and 122 for rejection
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devesh -
Unable to post return delivery whne the input material is batch managed
Hi,
While clearing the Subcontract GRN where the input material is batch managed, unable to put return delviery and the system throws error and unable to complete quantity posting.
Please guide me.
Regards,
RR GopalanThis is caused due to some technical restrictions in QM.
When the reverse movement is being posted through QM process, the goods movement is being created in the background and it is being posted without reference to a existing material document. That is the system behaves as if you create a return delivery via MB01. In this case, the system cannot determine the batch number. As the reverse is created in the background and the components are determined internally and the batch cannot be passed over from the QM transaction. To prevent postings and avoid unnecessary inconsistencies in stocks,system will issue the error message.
Workaround:
The message M7389 is configurable. Hence please check in transcation OMCQ and set this as warning message. This would allow you to post the return delivery, But the problem is the batch nubmer would be wrong. So, You can define the corret batch number in the user-ext MBCFC010, it's MM related, You'd better to work with your MM colleagues.
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Record Loss While posting GRN for subcontracting
Hello folks!
I am implementing subcontracting procedure for business. The issue arises at the time of GRN. If the quantity of received material is less than that in SC Purchase order, how to do its GRN and how is this loss will be recorded in SAP.
For example i have made SC purchase order of a material A with quantity "5 pcs" , the quantity received is "2pcs". At the time GRN how is this scenario handled and how to view this loss in reporting.
- Regards
Sahar Khalid>
Sahar Khalid wrote:
> What if the GI is done before GRN and we transer 5 components to produce 5finished goods. But at the time GRN we receive lesser quantity lets say "2" but the components have already been issued as "5". System allows you to GRN receive stock as 2 and consume component as 5.
what you call here a goods issue is not an goods isssue.
getting the components to the subcontractor is just a transfer posting from your storage location into subcontractor stock. Goods issue is done then from subcontractor stock when you post the goods receipt.
it is still not clear to me whether the subcontractor can usually produce 5 finished out of 5 components and just had a quality issue with 3 out of 5, hence you get only 2.
Or if you always get only 2 finished out of 5 components, which you can easily setup with the right definition of the Bom -
Dear Expert,
I am doing a Subcontracting scenario.
At the time of GRN an error throws " Account xxxxxxx requires an assignment to a CO object"
The GL is subcontracting expense GL.
I have searched every where all are saying to maintain the GL in OKB9 and give cost center there or
Enter default cost center in cost element.
But my question is I do not want to post to this single Cost center.
Cost Center changes according to the Subcontracting order.
Is it possible to assign one GL to different Cost Center or is it possible to enter manually while doing GRN.
Since this line is automatically generated line item we cannot possible give manually.
Can someone give a solution for this.Hi,
Go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Basic Settings > Maintain Excise Registrations > From here deactivate "Indicator NCCD" for your Excise Registration and then check. -
Internal Order error in GRN of subcontract PO
Dear All
i have created subcontracting PO without any account assignment category.
While doing GRN of Finished good the following error occurs
Internal Order entered in not Correct. Please check.
Message no. /ISDFPS/FDPDAHHM019
i am wondering that I have not entered any internal order in PO but system throughs the above error
Please help me
Thnks
RanjithHello
have you checked the setting of your accounts? Maybe the GBB/VBR account is defined as cost element.
Cheers
Aude -
Components are not getting consumed at the time of GRN for Subcontracting P
Dear All,
I hav created a Subcontracting PO and transfered the componenets
At the time of GRN for Finished Product, consumption of componets are not happening and GRN is getting posted
Please help meHello,
Have you created the subcontracting Purchase order or not? check , Item category "L" was available in Purchase order not?
I mean you are not getting the 543 movement type in MIGO transaction.
Follow below steps for subcontracting
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Please check these steps are their in your PO or not?
Regards
Mahesh Naik. -
Subcontracting Challan Ref Error during GRN
Dear Friends ,
While entering GR for Subcontract Order I am getting this error :
Challan Material is Different from Material Document Message No. : 8I 572
We are in 4.6 C , the Relevant OSS note 817705 has already been applied.
The process I am following is :
1. Po : Item category L
2. MB1B Ok mov type :541
3. J1if01 Subcontracting challan: Ok challan number created :
4. MIGO for subcontract order : When I enter challan number for reference in pop-up , I am getting above error.
Can anyone please advise ?
Thks and Rgds/ Vinod
9867333819Hi,
Along with note OSS note 817705, have you checked note 810083(This corrects the note 808541 released for the same problem. This note handles capture excise invoice for old challans with different fiscal year as well).
Just a final check, check in Tcode: J1ID,material & chapter id combination is maintained for the subcontracting material, with a check for subcontractor.
and in SPRO -- logistics general -- tax on goods movement - India - Business transactions -- subcontracting -- check Subcontracting Attributes and Maintain Movement Type Groups.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Viswanath -
Report for conversion payment of vendor against grn quantity.
Dear all,
In our scenario, we are doing conversion payment of vendor against SCO (subcontracting order) on the basis of GRN quantity. But, I am unable to found that how much conversion payments are pending against grn quantity in one month. Is there any report to found or any other process except through purchase order history of any order. Plz help me.
Thanks & regards
RahulHI,
first thing payment not update in Po history and its sap standard.because you pay give payment to vendor against two different PO.
for that you have to open MIRO means invoice document and check in that clearance document is there or not.
if clearance document means payment is done.in report ME80FN execute that report and then select change icon from header
and then select Po history
now you will get report PO-MIGO-MIRO
now click on miro then open account document and check clearing document there for invoice .
Regards
Kailas Ugale -
MIGO Error -while refering the subcontracting challan
Hi all
1.)We purchsed material from vendor A & send these material to vendor B directly for Job work ( for this we have seperate PO with subcontractor)
2.) In Material PO we tick SC vendor & give vendor B.
3.) Then made GR(with only part 1)
4.) MMBE report shows stock provide to vendor B.
5.) After that we made subcontracting challan for vendor B with reference to GR number.
6.)Then capture and post the Excise invoice no
7.) Now when I am trying to the GRN of subcontracting PO and refering the subcontracting challan , system is throwing an error " Challan material is different from material document "
Usualy in the normal scenario, while doing the 541 movement type , we use to refer the subcon PO(by making the PO no field mandatory/optional against the movement type 541 in customization ) , as during MIGO, system checks the PO no against the material issued and PO against the GRN is being done, if it does't matches, then the above error comes.
But in the above scenario, there is no way to give the reference of giving the subcon PO during 101 "o" . that is why , this error is coming.
Please suggest the way out , how to deal this scenario.
Thanks & Regards
Nitin Chhabrahi nitin
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