Subcontracting - Direct delivery with MRP and Scheduling agreements
Hi All,
can anyone suggest where I am going wrong.
I have a sub con assembly A that is made up from parts B and C.
The source of supply is:
A by VENDA
B by VENDB
C by VENDC
I do not want part B arriving on site as it is situated next door to the sub con plant. (however I might want to stock it for spare purposes later)
So I would like to send Part B directly to VENDA
I have set up a scheduling agreement for part B for VENDB and I have changed the delivery tab to VENDA and ticked the SC vendor option.
My problem is that when I run MRP I get a planned order for Part B and not a schedule line. If I remove the tick then I do indeed get a schedule line.
I have read a few posts that indicate that this can only be done via MRP areas (which we dont have).....is this really true??
Kind regards
Ben
Hi Peter,
I have looked at the possibility of converting over to MRP areas and the migration was a technical iceberg We have a lot of custom code which works along side MRP at plant level and I suspect this would require changing.
However you have triggered my curiosity again so I will have another play in my sandpit!
Take care
Ben
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Regarding : Contracts and Scheduling Agreements
Hi All SAP Proffessionals,
Can anybody tell me what do we mean by Contracts/Scheduling Agreements?Hi Mahesh,
A contract is a type of outline purchase agreement against which release orders (releases) can be issued for agreed materials or services as and when required during a certain overall time-frame.
Contracts are of two types:
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Please award if helps!
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amitHi Amit,
Its not hard to find this info at help.sap.com
Sales Order
Definition: Request from a customer to a company to deliver a defined quantity of products or provide a service at a certain time. The sales area that accepts the inquiry is responsible for completing the agreement.
Scheduling Agreements
Purpose
A customer scheduling agreement is an outline agreement with the customer containing delivery quantities and dates. These are then entered as schedule lines in a delivery schedule. You can either create schedule lines when you create the scheduling agreement or you can create them later.
You fulfill a scheduling agreement by creating the deliveries in the schedule as they become due. You process deliveries for a scheduling agreement in exactly the same way as you process a normal delivery. After you have carried out the delivery, the system updates the Delivered quantity field in the scheduling agreement item with the delivery quantity. The following graphic shows the document flow for scheduling agreements.
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Report for purchase requisition, purchase order and schedulling agreement.
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Is there any standard setting to update terms of payment without changing the PO and schedule agreement manually. My client wants that they will update terms of payment in vendor master at the first time and create 1 purchase order for the particular vendor.
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Update delivery with material and quantity.
hai abap gurus,
My requirement is to create a sales order and create a delivery with sales order reference.
I done both.But now i want to update my delivery with material and quantity.
Is there is any bapi or function module.
can any one help for my request.
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You're on good way while using FM SERNR_ADD_TO_LS and SERIAL_LISTE_POST_LS .
In the second function module you don't need to pass anything.
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I had also one case of updating the serial to the document. It was the Sales order. I have worked with the function module SERNR_ADD_TO_AU which is internally using the function module SERNR_ADD_TO_DOCUMENT. The following is the sample code for it:
CALL FUNCTION 'SERNR_ADD_TO_AU'
EXPORTING
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profile = c_zd01
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quantity = '1'
document = w_vbeln
item = '00010'
debitor = fs_header-sap_ship_to
vbtyp = 'C'
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IMPORTING
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serial_commit = w_serial_commit
EXCEPTIONS
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COMMIT WORK.
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Subcontract and scheduling agreement
gurus can u tell n detail reg the subcontract n scheduling agreement followed during real time?
Hi,
Sub Contracting Cycle are:
(1) You have a material (Finished Goods) that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM (CS01) with components (Raw Materials). Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity in the BOM.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (ME21N, Item Category L with different document type ie.. from std one). Maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO(In ME2O directly or by MB1B with 541 Movement type). Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor" .So no accounting document generated by supplying raw material to Sub Contracting Vendor.
(4) You receive (MIGO) finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
(5) Invoice Verification (MIRO) for SC Invoice.
(6) Payment in F-53
The accounting entries are:
FG BSX acc. Debit Acc.
GR/IR Cle.acc. WRX acc. Credit Acc.
FRL Acc. Debit Acc.
BSV acc. Credit Acc.
BSX acc. of components Credit Acc.
GBB - VBO Acc. Debit acc.
PRD acc. Some time Credit &
Some time Debit
If you are activate Price Diff. Acc. for SC-Vendor in....
OLMB -
> GR -
> Price diff. acc.for SC order while you do GR for your Plant......then Price Diff. Acc. also will be trigered...
Scheduling agreement is a long term purchase agreement, where you will keep issuing the delivery schedules whenever there is a change in requirement or at predetermined time intervals. The delivery schedule can be on hour/daily/weekly/monthly basis. SA is also an agreement with the vendor for the supply of matl, may be a quanity or value. The delivery dates will be maintained in ME38 ref the SA which are called delivery schedules.So you can maintain the delivery schedule and communicate the vendor on Forecase basis or JIT basis. And when you need some more matl then will only create SA deliveries using ME38. SA could be of 2 types:- without release documentation-system will transmit the delivery info to the vendor once you save the document.
With release documentation- after creating the delivery schedules you need to create SA release using ME84.So Process are ME01, ME11, ME31K with aggnrement type, ME38 & MIGO,
For more follow the link;
http://esoadocu.sap.com/socoview(bD1lbiZjPTgwMCZkPW1pbg==)/render.asp?packageid=DBBB6D8AA3B382F191E0000F20F64781&id=EB65A89F1AFD4C46AB61C6161BAF
Regards,
Biju K
Edited by: Bijay Kumar Barik on Apr 23, 2008 7:00 AM -
Outbound delivery and schedule agreement
Hi,Gurus.
I face a problem.
we have lots of schedule agreement in SD and we create outbound delivery as per SA.
We have a lot of materials to delivery to a same customer and we have to create an outbound delivery for some SA which they had same devliery date.
Which should I do?could you give me some suggestions.
thank you in advanceHello,
With reference to sales order :::
Schedule lines are the details in which SAP stores information about how much quantity will be delivered to customer from the complete order quantity & by what date it will be delivered.
Line item is one material entry from a sales order which contains order from customer for various materials & clubbed together in one order.
For more info plase check following link :
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dd/55fb20545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/content.htm
Hope this helps.
Thanks..
Mark points if helpful -
V_V2 and scheduling agreements with ATP
Dear SAP SD Experts,
In our production environment we use Scheduling Agreements with ATP. This means we do perform ATP for each firm schedule line received from the customer. Every night we run a rescheduling job (transaction code V_V2 - program SDV03V02) which is basically taking into account all the lines/documents including these scheduling agreements. My question: from an standard SAP functionality point of view, is the rescheduling job actually performing a new ATP for the schedule lines in these scheduling agreements and re-determining new ATP dates?.Does it have any effect to reschedule schedule lines in scheduling agreements?.
Thanks in advance,
LucianoHi Luciano
What you asked is about ATP . and the Fixed date / qty is something which we define in customer master data. in sales area data. If fixed date/ qty is checked then no partial deliveries are allowed for that customer.
so for an example
if the customer X is checked for fixed date/ qty then whatever quantity you enter in the sales oder for that customer X that has to be delivered to the customer X at 1 time .so you cant deliver the material on partial basis.
say u have a material in plant - 50 pcs
customer oder is - 75 pcs
so this is an unconfirmed order and this order should be done rescheduling . .
you cant deliver these 50pcs to customer X even though stock is available as for this customer X fixed date /qty is there
only if the material is available for more than 75pcs in the plant then only you can deliver
I hope now you are clear with the doubt of fixed date / qty
Reward if useful and any queries let me know and mark answered if you got ur answer
Regards
Srinath -
Hi
I have set the release strategy for the RFQ .In the characterstics filed i have maintained the filed name as "BSART" and the doc type value as "AN" and for the another filed name "EKORG" with value "PORG Value".
My doubt is i was able to create the RFQ and entered quatation details and able to create PO wrt the RFQ without release RFQ.But in the activity release RFQ this rfq details is getting fetched and subject to release .Where the release strategy will have impact.Can i create a PO wrt the RFQ qithout releasing RFQ.
Same pls help me to understand the release impact in scheduling agreement. Is that release of scheduling agreement is necessary for creating delivery schedules and the GR for the delivery schedules.The impact of release of scheduling agreement?Hi Yogesh
Thanks for your reply
This is my issue
I have activated the release procedure for RFQ through Char field Name "Bsart" for order type and value maintained is "AN" and order value also given.
Created RFQ ,when i go to me45 (relese RFQ) this rfq is getting dispalyed and release is active.I have not released the RFQ.
Then i maintained quatation details for this RFQ ,and able to create PO wrt the RFQ without releasing RFQ.
My doubt is in sap Help they says that "" An RFQ may be blocked via a release procedure (if its total value exceeds a predefined value - say $10,000 - for instance). Before this RFQ can be outputted (printed out or transmitted directly to the vendor), it must be approved (i.e. released)."
My doubt is if the RFQ is subject to release ,the transmission of RFQ details to vendor for receiving quatations is possible only after release of RFQ or PO can only be raised only after release of RFQ?
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Planning horizon and scheduling agreements
We have a planning horizon that goes out 1 year. However MRP stock requirements is showing planned orders for scheduling agreements that go out beyond the planning horizon.
Is there a reason MRP sees these MRP elements with dates well beyond the planning horizon of 1 year?Hi,
In MRP we can run the MRP with Planning run Type With indicator
NETCH(Net change planning) and NETPL(Net change planning in the Planning Horizon)
Planning Run Type in the Initial Screen
Use
You use the planning run type (Processing key indicator in the initial screen of the planning run) to determine which materials are to be planned.
Features
There are three different planning run types:
During regenerative planning, all materials are planned for a plant. This makes sense when you are carrying out the planning run for the first time as well as later during production if data consistency cannot be guaranteed due to technical error.
The disadvantage of regenerative planning is the fact that the system has to deal with high capacity loads because all materials are planned, including materials, which may not be affected by the planning run.
To overcome this disadvantage, it makes sense during production to carry out the planning run using the net change planning procedure. The only materials that are included in the planning run are those, which have undergone a change relevant to MRP since the last planning run, for example, because of warehouse issues or sales orders, changes to the BOM and so on.
The net change planning procedure makes it possible for you to execute the planning run in short intervals, for example, in daily intervals. You can thus always work with the most up-to-date planning result.
You can use net change planning in the planning horizon to shorten the MRP planning run even further. The system then only plans materials that have undergone a change relevant to MRP within the planning horizon. In order to also plan changes outside of the planning horizon, you must execute the net change planning run in greater time intervals.
You define the planning horizon per plant or per MRP group in Customizing for MRP in the IMG activity Define planning horizon. The planning horizon should be at least long enough to cover the period when sales orders are received. It must also accommodate delivery periods and the total lead times of the materials.
In single-item planning, you can only choose between net change planning and net change planning in the planning horizon. Regenerative planning is not useful, because the material has already been defined and does not have to be determined after the evaluation of the planning file.
The system automatically flags the materials that have undergone a change relevant to MRP with a corresponding planning file entry in the planning file (see also Checking the Planning File and Planning Run Type).
Regards,
nandha
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