Subcontracting work handling in CO
Hi ,
For my client , we need to configure and handle subcontracting business both for subcontractor & subcontractee . Both under the same corporate group but separate leagal entity . For example , A is giving a subcontracting owrk to B . In the books of A subcontarcting configuration and the corresponding steps are clear to me . But not sure how to handle , in the books of B in SAP from CO perspective . .
Any inputs how to handle the same in books of B from CO perspective ?
Thanks in advance for help .
Regards ,
Arnob
Hi Deve.,
Thanks for your reply . but our senario is bit complicated . We are raising Subcontracting order in the books of A and the subcontracting vendor is B . Doing 541 & 542 mvt type for giving the subcontracting material to B and reciving back the same from B . So far B is concerned , he is doing some small services . So as per the subcontracting procedure , neither input materials from A , nor the final product after subcontracting work will hit the books of B , for the entire cycle it will remain in the books of A --. Consumption as well inventorisation . In the books of B , we have some small expense items for doing the subcontracting work.
Now , in my clients scenario B will pay the Exicsie duty and thats why they are looking for production order in the books of B . Since , neither we have the input materials nor the final products in the books of B , I am unable to create production order .
One possibility , is to create a service order in the books of B to capture this activity in the books of B along with Excise duty .Unfortunately , we do not have CS module in place . Excise liability on the part of B is confirmed one and quite unique considering the business model .
Any thoughts based on the above inputs.
Regards ,
Arnob
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http://sap-img.com/sap-sd/consignment-sales-process-in-sap.htm
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