Subnets on a switch

Hello
I have a few switches with the ip address as 10.0.0.x /8.
I am connecting to these switches (http or telnet etc.) via computers that have an ip of 10.100.100.x /24.
1.Aren't these computers on a different subnet? How am I connecting?
2.I've thus far learned not to use the 10.0.0.x when subnetting yet this is the setup at my workplace.
There are no routers installed.
Sorry if this is no-brainer, but what I've learned so far (ccna mod 1/2) and what I'm seeing don't seem to be making much sense to me.
Thanx

Thanx ScottMac,
I think some of this got cleared up, although I believe I confused myself in the process.
To simplify everything, I wrote out a class C address with a subnet mask set at 255.255.255.224
I connected two computers back to back, via a crossover cable.
I did not use the first subnet, as that's what I've been taught not to do so far. Although I'm seeing the NO IP SUBNET ZERO in the upcoming class. (ugh, ill never make it...)
So I set up computer A with a 192.168.0.33 Network Address and a Subnet Mask of 255.255.255.224.
I set up computer B as 192.168.0.34 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.224
I was able to ping computer B with computer A. O.K. I'm a genius.
I then set up computer B with a Network Address of 192.168.0.65 subnet mask of 255.255.255.224.
I was NOT able to ping computer B from Computer A, Perfectly logical. I comprehend this much so far...
Next I set computer B to Network Address 192.168.0.35 and Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0.
I was still able to ping computer A.
I set computer B address to 192.168.0.35 Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0.
I was still able to ping computer A.
Nonetheless, I was able to ping computer A as long as computer B, host address was in the same available host addresses of computer A's subnet range...regardless of the subnet mask.
This is where I'm confused, I thought I was changing the "network address" when I changed the mask, though changing the mask on computer B really doesn't seem to have any effect...unless I implement the same subnet mask.
The conclusion I have come to is subnet masks are only valid if every host on the network shares the same mask...
Disregarding VLSM and CIDR, is the above statement true? I feel like I am missing something. It seems that anyone on a subnetted network could just plug in a valid host address and enter "any" subnet, and be able to communicate. I thought the idea of subnetting was to prevent this.
If you've read this far...thanx for your time.
I tend to over complicate.
BTW I'm just an electrician trying to learn a bit about networking...any advice is very much appreciated.

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