Subsequent delivery and subsequent debit

Dear All,
material type: NLAG
account assignemnt (PO): cost center, non valuated GR
Scenario:
1. GR (MIGO) - material_document1, qty 100
2. IR (MIRO) - invoice1 for material_document1, qty 100
> vendor makes correction because qty is more or less than the original
3. GR (MIGO) - material document2 - qty 20 (sum qty for PO item is 120)
4. IR (MIRO) - subsequent_debit1 for 20 pcs
These connections / links should exist:
Material_document1 - invoice1
Material_docuemt2 - subsequent_debit1
My question
How can I solve this? Is it posible to book the subsequent debit with reference to material_docuement2?
If I create the subsequent invoice it is valid only for material_document1 EVEN IF I do material_document2 as SUBSEQUENT DELIVERY in MIGO (in this case the two material documents are connected). SAP expects an additional invoice for material_document2 (but it is linked to material_docuement1!).
In my opinion it cannot be solved since the debit/credit memo refers to the "original" material document (1) and invoice (1).
Thanks,
Csaba
My question was a little bit incoherent...
I wanted SAP to suggest the to-be-credited qty&value automatically in case of returns to vendor - but it's not possible in standard system as per my best knowledge .
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:18 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:22 PM

Hi Bala krishnan,
when there is a price difference this entry would takes place. while reversing the same should be reversed, in your case the system is posting to another account.
please check the account key against the wrong line item ( this you can see with the help of changing layout), then goto OBYC and check the gl accounts assigned against that. To check either it is right or wrong compare with the standard/default company codes settings i.e 0001 co.cd.
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth.

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We generaly use subsequent debit / credit to adjust invoice value without affecting Qty
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A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
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(It comes from SAP help
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/70/a7853478616434e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm).
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Hi Cathy,
>Q1: Does the process match SAP statement above, sales order -> outbound delivery -> invoice -> return order (to be rejected after PGR for return delivery) - return delivery (PGR) - free of charge subsequent delivery (to be created with reference to return order) - delivery (no invoce to be created)?
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>Q2: If the process is correct, how can the financial balance the value of returned goods, sales cost? Is it through the replacement goods? In my previous understanding, it's the must to create credit memo because return delivery has PGR.
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>Q3: What order type is used for free of charge subsequent delivery? It seems SAP help mentions FD while some one mentions SD.
Both these Sales Doc. types are available in Std SAP system
SD - is used for Subsequent Delivery Free of Charge that is created wrt Return Sales Order / Billing Document
FD - is used when you want to give any free sample to the customer. Therefore it does not have any reference
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credit memos and subsequent credits can be used to adjust the amount due to the vendor.
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