Supply Chain Planner Work Bench: Dependent Demand Quantity in Horizontal Pl
Hi,
Does any one have idea on how to calculate 'Dependent Demand Quantity' in Supply Chain Planner's work bench.
(in Horizontal Plan)
This is dependent (component)demand quantity amount for a given item(Finished good or Assembly).
Navigation:
Application: Advanced Supply Chain Planner
Supply Chain: Supply Chain work Bench (select this)
(select org)
Plan--> (select any plan)--->current recommendations-->(select org again)-->select item --> select horizontal plan in right side screen-->then u see Dependent Quantity.
I need the formulate to calculate this.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Srikanth Ramaraju
Dependendent Demand for a component can represent the Discrete Job Demand and Planned Order demand (from the parent). If the component's final assembly has a discrete that is open and any planned orders against it, all of this demand is summed up in dependent demand at the component level. You can see the detail once you query the supply/demand from the workbench for the item prior to going to the horizontal plan.
hope this helps!
Nadi
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