Swatch Library Panel - Accessing Pantone colours

Hi
I'm using CS3 Illustrtaor and want to access the Pantone library but it doesn't appear in the list of Swatch Libraries. I have access to the Pantone library in CS3 Photoshop, In Design etc. so how do I access it from Illustrator?
Thanks

kir01lin,
When you have established where it hides, you may Vindow>Swatch Libraries>Other Library and browse.

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