Table Borders + CSS

Somehow the message was posted 3 times

davidhelp wrote:
> Table with border using css
>
> 1st question:
> I have a table at the top of the page with a 1px red
border
> Right below and up against 1st table is another table
with 1px red border
>
> In Firefox 1.5 and IE6 I see a 2px thick line
>
> How to fix it so I see only a single border line 1px
thick where the 2 tables
> meet?
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
.border {
border: 1px solid red;
border-collapse:collapse;
background: #FFFFFF;
.border th {
padding: 4px;
background-color: white;
border:1px solid red;
.border td {
padding: 4px;
background-color: white;
border:1px solid red;
.border2 {
border-collapse:collapse;
background: #FFFFFF;
border-right: 1px solid red;
border-bottom: 1px solid red;
border-left: 1px solid red;
.border2 th {
padding: 4px;
background-color: white;
border-right: 1px solid red;
border-bottom: 1px solid red;
border-left: 1px solid red;
.border2 td {
padding: 4px;
background-color: white;
border-right: 1px solid red;
border-bottom: 1px solid red;
border-left: 1px solid red;
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table style="width: 300px;" class="border">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th style="font-weight: normal;">1st table</th>
<td>1st table</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table style="width: 300px;" class="border2">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th style="font-weight: normal;">2nd table</th>
<td>2nd table</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</body>
</html>
> 2nd related question
> I create a table with a black border and I want to add
another table without
> any bordercolor to the same page using css
> The table may be inside the 1st or outside the table
>
> How to do this?
In much the same way as above - just create classes and apply
the
relative class to the relative table.
HTH
chin chin
Sinclair

Similar Messages

Table borders offset in PDF output

I am using RoboHelp HTML, version 9 and I need to deliver two outputs for my documentation: WebHelp and PDF.
My table borders look the way I want them to in WebHelp and Word, single line and thin (1px).
But when we go to PDF, I get two sets of lines, one all the way around my cells, another with gaps of white space.
I think its something to do with 3d borders not getting totally eliminated.
I've added "table-collapse: collapse;" to all my table styles.
Any ideas?
Note: If I create a table originally in Word with thin single line borders, it looks fine in PDF.
Here's how it looks in WebHelp and Word...
And then in PDF...

Peter,
Yes, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I really like the help design on your web site. I researched many looks in preparing for a new stylesheet project. Ended up emulating a lot of your elements rather than reinvent the wheel.
Hope you are OK with that. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery (definitely in my case).
Anyhow, I figured out my problem. The CSS for my original tables was using 5px padding all around. In Word output, this gets converted to table cell margins.
And that's what the PDF conversion doesn't like. Take out the original CSS padding--or the converted Word cell margins--and the problem goes away, leaving clean unbroken table lines in the PDF.
Best regards.

Need Help with giving Colors to Table Cells and Table Borders in Dreamweaver CC - Please!

Hi,
I am a teacher and use Dreamweaver CC to make my class web page.
How do I give colors to the cell borders of a table I inserted? How do I give colors and line thickness
to table borders, too?
I bought the David Powers DVD and it doesn't show that.
Please help.
Thank you,
John

Assuming that you have placed a table in your document and your CSS Designer panel is open
1. Click the '+' sign
2. Choose your option. I will choose 'Define in Page'
3. Follow the above sequence, 1.click on table, 2.ensure table is selected, 3.click on style, 4.click the '+' sign, 5. see the selector appear.
4. Click on the selector and choose the required Properties.
You can do the same for the row (<tr>) or a cell (<td>). In fact, this is how you would go about styling anything in your document.

How do I Format Table Borders in Header DW-CS5

I am building a website with DWCS5 and I can not find where to format the borders of the tables in my header.
The page is here
http://www.bountifulspinweave.com/aaaa_copy.htm
Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance,
Lois

First you would remove 'border="10" from the html table code. Then you would add some css to style ALL the table borders inside the .header1 <div>:
<style type="text/css">
.header1 table {
border: 10px solid #0C3;
</style>
Below is the complete html code and css:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<style type="text/css">
.header1 table {
border: 10px solid #0C3;
}</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="header1">
<table width="963" height="260">
        <tr>
          <td width="935" height="236" bgcolor="#680080"> <table width="915" height="196">
            <tr>
              <td width="156" height="172" bgcolor="#680080"><a href="logo-ft.gif"> <img src="_borders/bountiful_logo.jpg" alt="Bountiful Logo" width="152" height="155" align="absmiddle" /></a></td>
              <td width="725"><table width="723" border="0">
                <tr>
                  <td width="657" height="43" bgcolor="#d2b3d1">BOUNTIFUL</td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                  <td bgcolor="#d2b3d1">Your Wheel and Loom Specialists since 1988</td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                  <td bgcolor="#d2b3d1">Celebrating 23 years of unparalled customer service</td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                  <td height="37" bgcolor="#d2b3d1">Toll Free: 877-586-9332 from 8am to 8pm MST</td>
                </tr>
              </table></td>
            </tr>
          </table></td>
        </tr>
      </table>
      </div>
</body>
</html>

Retaining format of table borders of Help done in Robohelp 7 into RoboHelp 9

Does anyone know how to import or retain the properties of table borders/cells of a Compiled HTML Help Module that was generated in RoboHelp 7 into RoboHelp 9? I'm using RoboHelp 9 for my work and have to generate an HTML Help using RoboHelp 9. But the previous Help was generated in RoboHelp 7. When I have to generate the new Help in RoboHelp 9, this RoboHelp doesn't have the same properties of the table borders of the previous Help. Please help.

I'm still not sure about what you are using and were using in Rh7. Rh for Word has an HPJ file to open it, Rh HTML has an XPJ file. They are different from an HHP file which is also a Rh HTML file.
Both generate CHMs so once we are certain about that Rh HTML is what your Rh7 project was in, we can deal with the table problem.
If Rh for Word is what is in use, then it should not have changed. In Rh HTML tables are now CSS driven but your old ones should not have been affected. Let's cover that when we are certain of the version of Rh the project is in.
See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips
@petergrainge

Adjusting table borders in DW

I must say this has been frustrating me greatly.
I've been trying to resructure the layout of a DW template to suit
my own web page. That has involved trying to change the sizes of
some of the tables and shifting them around the page a bit. I've
found that DW is VERY uncooperative with me, and if I adjust the
border of one table on the page it will move the border of other
tables all over the page, or sometimes it will just act like it's
locked in place and it won't move at all. Very stubborn. I fought
with a page for hours last night trying to get it to appear how I
wanted. In the end I had to change my idea of how I wanted it to
look because it just flat refused to do what I wanted. Are table
borders just uncooperative bastards, or is there a method I'm
unaware of? Please help!!!
:

Kenny Stringer wrote:
>
I must say this has been frustrating me greatly.
I've been trying to
> resructure the layout of a DW template to suit my own
web page. That has
> involved trying to change the sizes of some of the
tables and shifting them
> around the page a bit. I've found that DW is VERY
uncooperative with me, and if
> I adjust the border of one table on the page it will
move the border of other
> tables all over the page, or sometimes it will just act
like it's locked in
> place and it won't move at all. Very stubborn. I fought
with a page for hours
> last night trying to get it to appear how I wanted. In
the end I had to change
> my idea of how I wanted it to look because it just flat
refused to do what I
> wanted. Are table borders just uncooperative bastards,
or is there a method I'm
> unaware of? Please help!!!
>
Web design is not like photoshop or any print/visual design
program. You can't just drag and drop
your layout elements. To do things right in Dreamweaver you
have to know a little bit about html and
css, and the less you know about them the more you should
look at your code and try to understand
what it all means.
you are talking about dragging table or cells borders in
design view to adjust their sizes? Not a
good idea to do that.
Tables are not meant to be dragged like that. You can either
define your tables width in pixels
(only the width, you CAN'T define the height of a table -you
just can't), or leave the dimensions
blank, so that they will naturally adjust their size
according to their content.
The content of a table is what gives it its size. If you drag
the table's border in design view,
Dreamweaver will have to insert some code that will
supposedly define the sizes of the tables and
cells, but unreliably. The more you drag and push, the less
the resulting code generated by
Dreameaver will be reliable.
And yes, cells inside a table are a relative world, meaning
that if you adjust a cell border, all
other cells will be affected.
The key facts:
-dragging/pushing borders in design view is not a way to go
-you CAN define a table (or cell) width in pixels, but you
CANNOT define its height. (so it is
pointless the adjust their height visually in design view, it
won't work)
-you will remain frustrated untill you learn html and css
basics (billions of tutorials online) -I
say html and css, not "Dreanweaver". Then, when you know some
basics, and go back to using
Dreamweaver, look at your code. Look at your code. Look at
your code...
seb ( [email protected])
http://webtrans1.com | high-end web
design
Downloads: Slide Show, Directory Browser, Mailing List

Hiding Table Borders

I need to hide the table borders but I don't know how. Can
Anybody help me please?
<table width="780" height="446" border="0" align="center"
class="Content_Table">
<tr>
<td width="20" bgcolor="#99FF33"> </td>
<td width="725"
bgcolor="#000000"> </td>
<td width="20" bgcolor="#99FF33"> </td>
</tr>
</table>
@charset "utf-8";
.Content_Table {
background-color: #000000;
width: 780px;
I don't want to see a black border around the left and right
columns of the table.
THank U all

<table width="780" height="446" border="0" align="center"
class="Content_Table">
should be -
<table width="780" height="446" border="0" align="center"
cellspacing="0"
class="Content_Table">
and the CSS should be -
@charset "utf-8";
.Content_Table {
background-color: #000000;
width: 780px;
.Content_Table td {
padding:0;
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com
- Template Triage!
http://www.projectseven.com/go
- DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs,
Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/
- Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================
"Ncatdesigner" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:fd5d01$s19$[email protected]..
>I need to hide the table borders but I don't know how.
Can Anybody help me
> please?
>
> <table width="780" height="446" border="0"
align="center"
> class="Content_Table">
> <tr>
> <td width="20"
bgcolor="#99FF33"> </td>
> <td width="725"
bgcolor="#000000"> </td>
> <td width="20"
bgcolor="#99FF33"> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
> @charset "utf-8";
> .Content_Table {
> background-color: #000000;
> width: 780px;
> }
>
>
> I don't want to see a black border around the left and
right columns of
> the
> table.
>
> THank U all
>

Firefox 4 no longer renders table borders properly

Table borders aren't being correctly rendered since the upgrade to 4.0. Whereas 3.6 rendered BORDERCOLOR=DARKGOLDENROD correctly, 4.0 renders it as if the instruction was BORDERCOLORLIGHT=GOLDENROD BORDERCOLORDARK=DARKGOLDENROD. In other words, 4.0 is attempting to render a 3-d color by rendering the top and left border in a light color, and the right and bottom border in a dark color.
IE, Chrome, Firefox 3.6, and SEAMONKEY all render the table borders correctly.

Am amazed to see the amount of new code FF4 generates. Is it trying to 'fix' non-compliant html with CSS? Whatever, it's not welcome. At least one old page of mine with a table border displays as you describe, beveled. Firebug shows at least 20 lines of CSS that are not in the original html.
Where is the documentation/justification for FF's approach, and how can I best override it? Or must I bring every old page into compliance? Whatever happened to aging 'gracefully'?
Please don't answer this if you're a cat, a bear, or a yeti. After one day I'm sick of Mozilla's cutesy-poo animals already.

Problem regarding the creation of Table using CSS.

Hi ,
Here I have a Problem regarding the creation of Table using CSS.
In My Application i have a table with multiple rows(Rows are Dynamically added to the table).First i am setting the table with the following properties:
width:900px;
height : auto,
Overflow : visible,
Max-height: : 200px.
If I use above properties,I'm getting a table with 5 or 6 rows(height upto 200px).After that i am getting the Vertical ScrollBar.
The problem is when a table has many columns, Vertical and Horizontal Scrolls are coming at the time of setting the table. The table height is not Increasing dynamically.
How can i use "height" property in CSS? (I want the table height to be increased when the columns are more.)
Thanks & Regards
Madhavi

Hey humble user. Errr I'm trying to understand what ur trying to do. U want to create a section of a region destructively from an existing region right? If so select the option convert to new region (opt-comm-R or selecting it by right clicking). Check your audio bin to make sure. Whats the "merge" function? Are u refering to the glue tool?

When converting tables in a MS Word 2010 or 2007 to PDF the table borders do not retain the correct thickness as identified in the word document. Is there a solution for this issue?

When converting tables in a MS Word 2010 or 2007 to PDF the table borders do not retain the correct thickness as identified in the word document. Is there a solution for this issue?

Please try with latest version of MS Word and Acrobat.
Regards,
Anoop

Table borders show up with Firefox or IE but not Safari (Win or MAC)

This very simple site (http://www.brandondean.net) has two table borders that show up under FF and IE but not Safari (either Win v4.0 or Safari for MAC, same result). I'm not an expert but I did the work using Dreamweaver 2004 MX as XHTML compliant, tested every page at W3C.org to make sure they comply with XHTML, and they do (except for my not putting in "alt" on images). I even downloaded Dreamweaver CS4 to run the "clean up the code" command and nothing is fixing the problem. I'm hoping someone out there has seen this before and can help us out. Thx.

Hi Gary,
It's probably just because the border widths you are specifying are too small (or WebKit is interpreting picas differently to Firefox/IE - I say WebKit as the same problem is visible in Google Chrome and that uses WebKit like Safari as well).
Try setting using this instead:
.borders {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
font-variant: normal;
color: #cccccc;
text-decoration: none;
border: 1px solid #888888;
That seems to do the trick for Firefox and Chrome on this Linux machine I'm using at the moment.

Poor Quality Table borders in PDF

Hello.
I am having problems having the tables borders in Word 2007 look the same in the PDF (using Arobat 9 Pro). The quality is very poor which appears the lines are thicker than in the Word document. I am using 4000 DPI, High Quality print but still looks bad.   Images look good it is just the table borders that are the problem. Do you have any suggestion in improving this? Or is this a problem I have to live with?
Regards,
Len

Converting Word (table) to pdf - lines screwed up - googled as far back as 2004.
BUG STILL exists. HELP/FIX PLEASE?
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/missing-table-lines-conversion-pdf-t878406.html
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/305508
Trying to convert any word doc with tables (& shading) to PDF
- basic table, black borders throughout
- shaded headings, black outline border
- shaded subheadings, black outline border
However when convert to PDF:
- 'displays' NO top cell border for some/all shaded rows
- shows diff thickness lines
- each conversion, diff lines missing/incorrectly sized
- however converted pdf prints perfectly fine
Adobe know about the bug, per PRMW's (Paul's) post on 2009-07-15 15:44:34, however only offered a painful time consuming workaround using non-freeware Adobe Pro:
http://acrobatusers.com/forum/pdf-creation/word-pdf-table-lines-missing-or-faded#comment-7 8139
- "It is not feasable to edit 200+ tables in the PDF every time the PDF is generated, as we maintain the original in word.
- "This complete issue seems to have been passed off by Adobe as no problem and that there is a work around. I consider this an unsatisfactory response from a major product supplier.
Microsoft TechNet & NitroPdf said it's an Adobe issue & to contact Adobe to fix the bug.
Tried, but proble exists:
* Word 2010 > File > Save & Send > Create PDF/XPS Document
* Word 2010 > Save As > Pdf
* Word 2010 > Print > PrimoPdf (even tried properties > advanced > dpi 300/600/2400) > Custom
* Word 2010 > Print > doPDF v7 (even tried 'high quality images)
* Word 2010 > Print > PDFCreator
* Word 2010 > Print > CutePdf Writer      (even worse)
* Nitro Pdf Reader > Convert From File > (even worse)
* www.pdfonline.com > Word to Pdf         (even worse)
* www.wordtopdf.com > email: Sorry, an unexpected conversion failure occurred when converting your file.
Software:
* Word 2010 - tried with .docx & .doc (97 to 2003)
* Adobe Reader 8.2.6 (freeware), then upgraded to Adobe Reader X 10.0.1 (freeware)
* GhostScript 9.01 w32 (freeware)
* CutePdf Writer (freeware)
* PrimoPdf (freeware)
* Nitro Pdf Reader 1.4.0.11 (freeware)
* doPDF 7.2.361 (freeware)
* PDFCreator 1.2.0 (opensource - www.pdfforge.org)
Seems to display better at 300%, but lines still not right (even at 2400%), but who views pdf's at this zoom?
Message was edited by: shell_l_d

Table borders for html Page

HEllo ABAPERS,
KINDLY HELP .
I have developed a report which displays a html page in a custom control .But while printing it not displaying table borders . I have used method display_document ffor printing .Can anyone tell me the reason why is it not printing borders ?
Following code is the code for subroutine and PBO : -
MODULE status_0322 OUTPUT.
SET PF-STATUS 'xxxxxxxx'.
SET TITLEBAR 'xxx'.
IF first_display EQ 'X'.
    SET PF-STATUS 'PMENU'.
create document
    CREATE OBJECT do.
fill document
    PERFORM display_data USING do t_no.
merge document
    CALL METHOD do->merge_document.
display the document inside the container named 'mmscr
    CALL METHOD do->display_document
      EXPORTING
        container          = 'MMSCR'
      EXCEPTIONS
        html_display_error = 1.
    " do some exception handling ...
    CLEAR first_display.
ENDIF.
ENDMODULE.                 " STATUS_0322 OUTPUT
*&      Form display_data
FORM display_data USING p_do TYPE REF TO cl_dd_document P_no type n.
DATA ta1 TYPE REF TO cl_dd_table_element.
DATA col11 TYPE REF TO cl_dd_area.
DATA col12 TYPE REF TO cl_dd_area.
DATA col13 TYPE REF TO cl_dd_area.
DATA col14 TYPE REF TO cl_dd_area.
DATA col15 TYPE REF TO cl_dd_area.
DATA head1 TYPE sdydo_text_element.
DATA head2 TYPE sdydo_text_element.
DATA head3 TYPE sdydo_text_element.
DATA head4 TYPE sdydo_text_element.
DATA text TYPE sdydo_text_element.
CALL METHOD p_do->new_line.
      CALL METHOD p_do->add_table
        EXPORTING
          no_of_columns               = 5
          cell_background_transparent = space
          with_heading                = 'X'
          border                      = '5'
          width                       = '50%'
        IMPORTING
          table                       = ta1.
set columns
      CALL METHOD ta1->add_column EXPORTING heading = head1
                                            width   = '10%'
                                  IMPORTING column = col11.
      CALL METHOD ta1->set_column_style EXPORTING col_no    = 1
          sap_color = cl_dd_area=>list_background_int.
      CALL METHOD ta1->add_column EXPORTING heading = head2
                                            width   = '15%'
                                  IMPORTING column = col12.
      CALL METHOD ta1->add_column EXPORTING heading = head3
                                            width   = '15%'
                                  IMPORTING column = col13.
      CALL METHOD ta1->add_column EXPORTING heading = head4
                                  width   = '15%'
                                  IMPORTING column = col14.
      CALL METHOD ta1->add_column EXPORTING heading = head4
                                            width   = '15%'
                                  IMPORTING column = col15.
fill columns
      text = ' '.
      CALL METHOD col11->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = 'Init'.
      CALL METHOD col12->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = 'Supv No'.
      CALL METHOD col13->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = 'Date'.
      CALL METHOD col14->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = 'Discrepancy Report Notation'.
      CALL METHOD col15->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD ta1->new_row
        EXPORTING
          sap_color = cl_dd_area=>list_background.
      text = 'Q/C by'.
      CALL METHOD col11->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = ' '.
      CALL METHOD col12->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col13->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col14->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col15->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD ta1->new_row.
      text = 'Received by'.
      CALL METHOD col11->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = ' '.
      CALL METHOD col12->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col13->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col14->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col15->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD ta1->new_row.
      text = 'Sign Off'.
      CALL METHOD col11->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      text = ' '.
      CALL METHOD col12->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col13->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col14->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD col15->add_text
        EXPORTING
          text = text.
      CALL METHOD do->new_line
        EXPORTING
          repeat = 1.
ENDFORM.
MSK

You can use HTTP Receiver to pass the data to the servlet that runs on the HTTP Server. The servlet has already screen design logic written in HTML or jsp to display in HTML Table or so. PI requires to just post data on the servlet of HTTP Server using HTTP Receiver. PI will not create screen look and feel logic while posting data.
If you want HTML table coding logic refer this link
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_tables.asp

Looking for Table to CSS Converter

I'm asking the Dreamweaver Community for HELP...
I currently own CS3 of Dreamweaver and while there are some
ways to convert tables to a css format manually.
Is anyone using a software or a work-a-round to automate this
process of converting TABLES to CSS automatically.
For example i have DOZENS OF HTML pages that are loaded with
Nested Tables... and all i want to do is run that HTML page through
a TABLE to CSS converter.
And then that’s it... you're done!... no tedious copy
and pasting converting one table at a time.
Does CS3 have something I’m missing that would remedy
this or make Converting Tables to CSS more automated and not
one-at-a-time converting?
Thanks for any suggestions or links.

A well built page with tables is infinitely more
representative of your work
than the train wreck that results when you convert tables to
layers.
Put a 5x5 table on the page, merge and split some of the
cells, add some
content to each cell, and convert to layers. Look at the
incredible mess
you have now in your code. Preview in a browser, and expand
your text size
in the browser. Look at the incredible mess you have in the
browser.
I think your approach is COMPLETELY wrong.
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.projectseven.com/go
- DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs,
Tutorials & Resources
==================
"RegGFX" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for helping me find the Convert to Divs button...
i'll test it out.
> I
> went on the web and googled Table2CSS and found some
interesting tools...
> In regards to the question about Converting Tables to
Divs or pure css....
> In reply too:
>
quote:
Question is why do you want to do this? To say that there are
no tables
> in
> the page?
> Well that seems to be the NEW RAGE(actually its not new
though)... create
> websites without TABLES.... google it on the Web and
you'll see all the
> responses. Its almost as big a argument as MAC vs. PC
all though we know
> that
> "Talent" is what drives creativity... the tool is just a
tool to
> accomplish
> your job...but thats for another discussion
> Anyway back to the CSS design vs. Table design website.
>
> I had 2 friends who went on job interviews where they
showed samples of
> their
> websites to 3 different large corporations and all 3
interviews said "we
> want
> to see websites .
WITHOUT tables and using only CSS and or DIVs." as
> samples for their portfolios
> WOW... i thought so....
> I've talked to a number of other friends in large
companies and this is
> the
> going trend now... Design TABLELESS Websites (if you
google that you'll
> find
> that as well) and use only pure CSS. Many company's are
doing this I think
> its
> because knowone can seem to figure out Tables.
>
> Now i personally have been designing websites for a
little over 10 years
> and
> have never had issues with Tables to design a website
although i do
> understand
> the arguments behind load times... I think its because
some out there
> still
> haven't got the nack of how to design a website and
limit the load times
> while
> still using Tables.
>
> So in view of the feed back i've been getting about this
pure CSS website
> and
> no tables trend, I've been converting some of my 10 page
client websites
> to
> PURE CSS just because i got an inside tip that company's
will pay big
> bucks to
> convert their website to PURE CSS and no tables just
becuase another
> I.T.executive consultant said that is the route to go.
>
> Again... for me... its all about knowing how to optimize
your webpages
> whether
> you're doing Tables or Pure CSS.
> Its also about if your website makes the user have to
"THINK TO MUCH"...
> you
> can build a cool website design with out making the user
"Think To Much"
> such
> as How long is this website going to take to load, or
why is it so
> complicated
> to navigate with all these uncessary tables and
etc...but again the "Don't
> Make
> Me Think" syndrome is for yet another discussion
>
> Anyway... thanks for the tip about Dreameweaver's
"Convert" button....
> i've
> tried it and its ok... but it needs alittle refinement
on automation. (for
> example it would be nice if it put the CSS in a TAG up
in the head like a
> Table2Css conversion tool i found.)
>
> Best Regards,
>

Templates tables and css ?

It's been a couple years since I really worked on a new site.
I have DW
MX2004. My last site used templates which worked fine for me.
Are
templates still widely use...or has css design more or less
replaced them ?
Also...in css design...are tables used much anymore...and if
not...can you
do pretty much the same in css as you can in table layout ?
Can anyone post a few links that discuss table vs. css deign,
etc ?
From a code/search engine stand point...is there a difference
between divs
and the table tag ?
Thanks so much....
Tim

> Are templates still widely use
I use templates, CSS, and server-side includes on nearly
every site I build.
> Also...in css design...are tables used much anymore
I use CSS and tables on some pages, when they work for what I
need to do.
> can you do pretty much the same in css as you can in
table layout ?
There are some things which are exceptionally easy to do with
tables, that
are exceptionally difficult to do with CSS. I believe that a
pragmatic
developer will keep both methods at the ready in their
toolkit.
> Can anyone post a few links that discuss table vs. css
deign, etc ?
Please don't think of it this way. Think of it as the next
step ahead in
design methodology -
http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/qdmacfly/index.htm
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/css.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/tableless_layout_dw8.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/css_concepts.html
> From a code/search engine stand point...is there a
difference between divs
> and the table tag ?
No.
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com
- Template Triage!
http://www.projectseven.com/go
- DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs,
Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/
- Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================
"Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's been a couple years since I really worked on a new
site. I have DW
> MX2004. My last site used templates which worked fine
for me. Are
> templates still widely use...or has css design more or
less replaced them
> ?
>
> Also...in css design...are tables used much
anymore...and if not...can you
> do pretty much the same in css as you can in table
layout ?
>
> Can anyone post a few links that discuss table vs. css
deign, etc ?
>
> From a code/search engine stand point...is there a
difference between divs
> and the table tag ?
>
> Thanks so much....
>
> Tim
>

Table Borders + CSS

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for