Table Cells in Layout Mode vs WYSIWYG

I am new to Dreamweaver and am using v8.0. When designing a
page using Tables and Cells in Layout Mode the layout looks fine;
the Cells are nice and tight. However - and this regardless of
which Browser I use to check the page - the spacing between those
same Cells is wholly unacceptable. As mentioned, in Layout Mode
everything is tight; when viewing it in a browser there may be up
to 2" of space between the Cells.
What have I over looked? Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

Table width = 1327? Don't ever make your width more than
about 770. As for
the spacing .. I have never seen so many empty table cells in
my life. :)
As the others have said, you will do far better by learning a
little html
and css .. "adhering to conventions" will never happen with
Layout Mode.
It's there so people can draw tables .. but if I were DW
Engineering, I
would remove it .. I think it causes more problems than it's
worth. :)
Nancy
"LGLDSR73" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Thank you, Nancy!
>
> Cellspacing=0 set as such:
>
> <table width="1327" border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0">
>
> I seem to have it squared away now but that doesn't mean
that I am
> adhereing
> to conventions. What I was doing was selecting 'Layout
Table' to enclose
> all
> Images and text (and/or using 'Draw Layout Cell' as
well), as opposed to
> (1)
> Using 'Layout Table' to set the page size, then (2)
using 'Draw Layout
> Cell' to
> put the images and/or text in. What I am seeing now in a
Browser (Safari)
> is
> matching up to what I am seeing in Dreamweaver. I don't
think I fully
> grasp the
> differrence between 'Layout Table' and 'Draw Layout
Cell'. I've been
> reading in
> the 'Help' and while it sheds some light it doesn't
appear to be getting
> through.
>
> Though the spacing of the images appears to be okay now,
text is an issue.
> I.e.,
>
> If I put:
>
> "The text will end here -------->" with the arrowhead
at the rightmost
> border
> in Dreamweaver, when viewed in Safari it wraps to the
second line even
> though
> within Dreamweaver I am not outside of the green
frame....
>
> What is a recommended page size to start with, and set
with which Tool?
>
> Finally, when I attempt to use Firefox to preview the
page the following
> error
> is returned:
>
> File not found
> Firefox can't find the file at /2 WD/NEW
SITE/index.html.
> * Check the file name for capitalization or other typing
errors.
> * Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or
deleted.
>
> I purchased 'Dreamweaver 8 For Dummies' but apparently I
transcend even
> that!
> ;-)
>
> The Code is attached, but please don't spend more than a
quick moment;
> this is
> my problem and not yours!
>
> Thank you!
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0
Transitional//EN"
> "
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> <html xmlns="
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
> <head>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=ISO-8859-1" />
> <title>index</title>
> <style type="text/css">
> 
> </style></head>
>
> <body>
> <table width="1327" border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0">
> 
> <tr>
> <td width="116" height="30"> </td>
> <td width="136"> </td>
> <td width="69"> </td>
> <td width="264"> </td>
> <td width="24"> </td>
> <td width="107"> </td>
> <td width="20"> </td>
> <td width="234"> </td>
> <td width="16"> </td>
> <td width="338"> </td>
> <td width="3"> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="41"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td colspan="2" valign="top"><h1 align="center"
class="style2"><span
> class="style1">Fifth Avenue Digital
</span></h1></td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="39"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="47"> </td>
> <td colspan="5" rowspan="4" valign="top"><img
src="Images/main
> image.jpg"
> alt="main page cape cod" width="600" height="460"
/></td>
> <td> </td>
> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><img
src="Images/9j.jpg" alt="router bit"
> width="234" height="350" /></td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="303"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><img
src="Images/06.jpg" alt="sand"
> width="337" height="333" /></td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="30"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <tr>
> <td height="80"></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> <td></td>
> </tr>
>
>
>
> <tr>
> <td height="30"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="77"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td colspan="2" rowspan="2" valign="top"><img
src="Images/ramp.jpg"
> alt="boat ramp rockport" width="333" height="500"
/></td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td colspan="3" valign="top"
nowrap="nowrap"><h1 align="left">This is
> a
> test of inputting text that is going</h1>
> <h1 align="left">(new paragraph) to end right here
-------->
> </h1></td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td height="424"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
>
>
>
> <tr>
> <td height="179"> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> </body>
> </html>
>

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>

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>>> In my opinion, there are three serious problems
with Layout Mode -
>>>
>>> 1. Perhaps most importantly, it sits between you
and *real* HTML
>>> tables,
>>> and fools you into believing that concepts like
"layout cell" and
>>> "autostretch" really mean something. They do
not. As long as you use
>>> Layout Mode, you'll never learn one of the most
important things for new
>>> web
>>> developers - how to build solid and reliable
tables.
>>>
>>> 2. Actually, #1 wouldn't be *so* bad, except
that the code that is
>>> written
>>> by Layout Mode is really poor code. For example,
a layout table
>>> contains
>>> MANY empty rows of cells. This can contribute to
a table's instability.
>>> In addition, if your initial positioning of the
table's cells is a bit
>>> complex,
>>> Layout Mode will throw in col- and rowspans
aplenty as it merges and
>>> splits
>>> cells willy-nillly to achieve the pixel-perfect
layout you have
>>> specified. Again,
>>> this is an extremely poor method for building
stable tables, because it
>>> allows
>>> changes in one tiny cell's shape (i.e,
dimensions) to ripple through the
>>> rest
>>> of the table, usually with unexpected and
sometimes disastrous
>>> consequences.
>>> This is one of the primary reasons for the final
result's fragility -
>>> read this -
>>>
>>>
http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php
>>>
>>> 3. The UI for Layout Mode is beyond confusing -
many options that you
>>> might
>>> want to use are inaccessible, e.g., inserting
another table, or layer
>>> onto the page.
>>>
>>> I can understand the new user's desire to use
this tool to make their
>>> life easier,
>>> but the cost is just too heavy in my opinion.
>>>
>>> To make good tables, keep it simple. Put a table
on the page, and begin
>>> to
>>> load your content. If you would want a different
table layout, instead
>>> of
>>> merging or splitting cells, consider stacking
tables or nesting simple
>>> tables instead, respectively.
>>>
>>> And above all, do not try to build the whole
page with a single table!
>>>
>>> To read more about this approach, visit the DW
FAQ link in my sig, and
>>> run
>>> through the table tutorials.
>>>
>>>> I have had very good luck using
Layers?easier to move around and size,
>>>> but a
>>>> few people I've spoken with say to stay with
the Tables.
>>>
>>> Using Layers as a primary layout methodology is
a slippery slope to
>>> catastrophe. Here's why -
>>>
>>>
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layer-overlap.asp
>>>
>>>
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>>> "DreemWeeve"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Hi All - Thanks for the excellent info I've
gotten off these forums. I
>>>> am a
>>>> newbie and have a basic question. Is it
better to use the Layout Mode
>>>> or the
>>>> Table Mode (Standard) for building Web
pages? And what are some of the
>>>> positives for each and/or the negatives?
>>>>
>>>> I have had very good luck using
Layers?easier to move around and size,
>>>> but a
>>>> few people I've spoken with say to stay with
the Tables.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ernie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

How to create table with rows and columns in the layout mode?

One of my friends advised me to develop my whole site on the
layout mode as its better than the standard as he says
but I couldnot make an ordinary table with rows and columns
in th layout mode
is there any one who can tell me how to?
thanx alot

Your friend is obviously not a reliable source of HTML
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> One of my friends advised me to develop my whole site on
the layout mode
> as its
> better than the standard as he says
> but I couldnot make an ordinary table with rows and
columns in th layout
> mode
> is there any one who can tell me how to?
> thanx alot
>

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part. Please don't
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HTML, which is why
it has been completely removed from DW CS4.
Also, you have improperly created your Library item -
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cellspacing="0">

<tr>
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entire page and
its code (the code is truncated for us reading/replying from
the NNTP
forums)? And can you please describe for us what you are
trying to achieve?
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>I am new to DW can you tell? :) I'm used to using shared
borders in Front
> page. I thought DW would give me the same with library
items. DW tables
> seem
> to go all over the place, this is why I am using
Absolute Positioning with
> the
> tables. I have used tables for my layout for years with
an old version of
> netscape composer without this frustration. DW is
squirrelly. I have
> attached
> code but the message says "If you would like to insert
raw code into your
> message insert it here, the html code will be stripped
out, and spaces
> will be
> replaced with HTML spaces ( ) " So I don't know
how it will turn
> out.
>
>

Layout Mode

Hi
I have created my site in dreamweaver, but it is not
appearing in the browser as it should.
I have two tables that need to be lined up with each other in
the centre. Although, when I create it in layout mode it appears
correctly but then when I preview the site in browser the tables
are off to the left.
Any ideas of how to fix it?
Thanks Lou

This post was made to the identical thread called "Layout
Altered" - posted
yesterday -
Yes, it does.
DW's timeline code is such an antique (dating from DW2, I
believe) that it
fails in some of the more recent browsers. Unless there is a
compelling
reason to use it, I wouldn't.
It's likely that your problems stem from this code -
<table width="748"" height="419" align="center"
cellspacing="10"
id="Content"
style="border: 1px solid black; </table>
Note that not only is the opening table tag improperly
closed, but the whole
thing is bogus anyhow. You cannot have
<table></table> in your code. I
assume that the closing </table> is an error, meaning
that the code should
be -
<table width="748"" height="419" align="center"
cellspacing="10"
id="Content"
style="border: 1px solid black;">
This should fix part of your problem. You will have another
immediate
problem, though, that is caused by your use of absolute
positioning with
centering tables. The tables will center, but the absolutely
positioned
elements will be fixed in their location. Thus, the table's
content will
slide under the 'layers', breaking your layout.
Finally, you have used Layout mode to build these tables. In
my opinion,
there are three serious problems with Layout Mode -
1. Perhaps most importantly, it sits between you and *real*
HTML tables,
and fools you into believing that concepts like "layout cell"
and
"autostretch" really mean something. They do not. As long as
you use
Layout Mode, you'll never learn one of the most important
things for new web
developers - how to build solid and reliable tables.
2. Actually, #1 wouldn't be *so* bad, except that the code
that is written
by Layout Mode is really poor code. For example, a layout
table contains
MANY empty rows of cells. This can contribute to a table's
instability.
In addition, if your initial positioning of the table's cells
is a bit
complex,
Layout Mode will throw in col- and rowspans aplenty as it
merges and splits
cells willy-nillly to achieve the pixel-perfect layout you
have specified.
Again,
this is an extremely poor method for building stable tables,
because it
allows
changes in one tiny cell's shape (i.e, dimensions) to ripple
through the
rest
of the table, usually with unexpected and sometimes
disastrous consequences.
This is one of the primary reasons for the final result's
fragility - read
this -
http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php
3. The UI for Layout Mode is beyond confusing - many options
that you might
want to use are inaccessible, e.g., inserting another table,
or layer onto
the page.
I can understand the new user's desire to use this tool to
make their life
easier,
but the cost is just too heavy in my opinion.
To make good tables, keep it simple. Put a table on the page,
and begin to
load your content. If you would want a different table
layout, instead of
merging or splitting cells, consider stacking tables or
nesting simple
tables instead, respectively.
And above all, do not try to build the whole page with a
single table!
To read more about this approach, visit the DW FAQ link in my
sig, and run
through the table tutorials.
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"Malcolm N_" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:07:34 +0000 (UTC), "LoobieLouLou"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am not absolutely sure how the table html code
should look, please could
>>you
>>show me?
>
> in a new file - create a new table and then look at the
code
>
> it starts with a <table>
> then a <tr> to start the row
> then <td> or <th> to start a cell - each
<td> needs a balancing </td>
> to close it
>
> to end a row it uses a </tr>
>
> look at your code and you will see missing </td>
and </tr>
>
> and the first table has no content i.e a <table>
immediately followed
> by a </table> with no rows or cells
>
> Just using Dw to produce a site without undertstanding
html and css is
> not a recipe for success.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> ~Malcolm N....
> ~

Next version drops Layout Mode?

I read this from a link posted on the NAPP forums. Adobe
plans to drop many current features of Dreamweaver in the next
update including Layout Mode. I'm not an HTML "coder". I have two
simple web pages that I maintain and rely on WYSIWYG to format
them. I can't believe Adobe would do away with this ability. If I
wanted to hand code pages, I'd get a book, learn HTML and use
BBEdit!
There are a number of features being discontinued in the next
version. I'm a novice and have no clue what many of them are or
what they do, so you might want to check the list for yourself
Here's
The Link
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...2489&sliceId=1
Appears the link no longer works. It does not work from the
original posting on NAPP either. What's up Adobe?

I'll sleep easy at night knowing all you Webmaster mavens and
code heads look forward to the changes. Hey, what do I know. I'm
just a graphic designer, prepress type who, quite honestly, has no
desire to learn HTML.
I have two web sites that I maintain. One personal (family
photos, recipes, news etc.) the other for a local charitable club.
They are very simple sites that I put up
YEARS ago when the first edition of PageMill was offered. And
(gasp) they both use frames! Neither us CSS style sheets (shame on
me), because I just want to get in, make a couple changes and get
out and I don't want to expand my knowledge much since I don't
foresee adding "features" to either of my sites.
I "upgraded" to GoLive at the announcement of the funeral for
PageMill. Besides, I was purchasing the CS and GL came with the
box. But, with Adobe's purchase of Macro Media, I could see that DW
would soon be king of the mountain and the possible demise of GL,
so when upgrading to CS3, I got the Premium package that included
DW and ported my pages over from GL.
I had no idea what a Div Tag was, really still don't fully
comprehend, I just know that they were "present" when I started
using CS DW. It didn't take me long to figure out they were kinda
like "frames" in Quark or InDesign. Kinda neat, you could put them
anywhere on the "page" and insert just about anything (text,
tables, graphics) inside them.
DOOZA is close to summing up Adobe's marketing scheme, but I
don't think they are deceptive in fooling..."people into thinking
Dreamweaver is the perfect choice for someone who is not willing to
learn. They fool them into
thinking Dreamweaver will do all the hard work for them."
It's a matter of learning what you need to know to get the job
done. I don't care if my "code is sloppy", or the page takes a
micro second longer to open because I didn't use CSS styles, or
that the upload files are 80K bigger than they need to be because
of all the extra tags.
I'm sure there are many, like me, who don't ever want to have
to look at a page in code view, could care less what goes on
"behind the scenes" as long as we get the information out there.
That's not Adobe's fault. And I don't mind being considered an
"amature" compared to the Web Wizards. You can't say that's any
worse than someone using MS Word as a Page Layout program if it's
serving the purpose to make simple flier for the copy machine.
They'll call a printer when they want a trifold four color
brochure, just as I would hire one of you "pros" if I wanted a web
store front with shopping cards and security features.
dee dee
http://www.deedeespage.com

Table cells not editable in Contribute

I have a date table (inside a CSS layout) which displays incorrectly in Contribute Edit mode.This is the URL http://www.greencs.co.uk/accreditations.html
In Contribute Edit mode, the right hand column of the table (which contains the PDF certificates) is pushed far out to the right (beyond the rest of the layout) which makes it impossible for the cells in this column to be edited. This also happens in Dreamweaver; the table width is 598 pixels but the Display width (in parenthesis in Dreamweaver) is 1300 px. Does anyone know why the Display width, which I assume Contribute is using in Edit mode, is so wide..... and how I can constrain it.
I have tried adding various table cell widths but to no avail. Help.....
Many thanks

This problem has been solved by placing the logo images in their own table cell instead of floating left. The float and adjacent text caused the problem. Thanks to Neil Gibson @cvwcreative who came up with the solution on Twitter.

Table height in layout development

Hello there,
               I have defined a table in the layout which has a header and a row. Now, I have another table is displayed (using repeating subforms not with standard table layout). When my data is getting printed, if the inner table is blank, then it is currently leaving a blank space on its place. I want the height to be reduced if there is no data in the inner table.
                 I have checked that all the subforms used in the ROW part are FLOWED. However I doubt that, it is taking minimum height of the ROW.
                Please let me know if there is any way to reduce height automatically when there is less data to be printed.
Thanks & regards,
Ganesh V Khumse

> Why is it that I'm unable to make my table height
stretch to fit the
> browser? I
Table height is invalid HTML. DW likes to work with valid
HTML. To make
sure that your page validates, DW adds a valid and complete
doctype to each
new page you create. When a browser sees a page with a valid
and complete
doctype, it renders the page in Standards mode, ignoring any
invalid HTML it
encounters. Thus DW pages will result in your table heights
being ignored
in the browser. FP had no sense of this detail, and threw
invalid code out
like a Pez dispenser, hence your invalid construction seemed
to work.
If you really need to do stuff like this, read here -
http://www.apptools.com/examples/tableheight.php
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
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"Mr. Angier" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Why is it that I'm unable to make my table height
stretch to fit the
> browser? I
> never had this problem when I used FrontPage. Is there
some code I need
> to add
> by hand to make it work? I've double-checked the table
height and cell
> height
> and they are both at 100%.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

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