Table Styles Override

Hi,
I'm using CS4 (PC) and realised that the plus sign indicating local overrides don't show in Table and Cell styles. Is that a glitch or that's the way it's meant to be? Any takers?
Tricia

You could try adding the following to your .css file:
td {vertical-align: top;}
This should affect the alignment of text in all table cells, regardless of whether you have a table style defined. It should not affect any other formatting that you have applied to the text in the table.

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Clearing overrides in Cell and Table Styles causes crash

I can not "Apply [...], Clear Overrides" in a Cell, Table or Paragraph style without InDesign CC crashing. I have removed all Object styles from the tables that I am working with. I tried exporting to .idml and starting a new file and have the same issue.

@Chris – Is InDesign CC patched to the latest version?
Are you interested to test a script by Marc Autret posted at the inDesign Scripting Forum?
See the following thread and posts:
creativejoan0425
How to break link to cell/table style in a selection
Dec 14, 2013 3:51 PM
https://forums.adobe.com/message/5929954#5929954
See Marc Autret's script for cleaning different levels:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/5931169#5931169
Change the last line of his code to your will. Basically you have 4 options. Chose *one* of those:
Option 1 LEVEL 0:
breakLinkToCellStyleSelection(0); // LEVEL 0 => only clear overrides relative to *defined* style attributes
Option 2 LEVEL 1:
breakLinkToCellStyleSelection(1); // LEVEL 1 => clear all overrides (through root style)
Option 3 LEVEL 2:
breakLinkToCellStyleSelection(2); // LEVEL 2 => clear all overrides and apply [None]
Option 4 LEVEL 3:
breakLinkToCellStyleSelection(3); // LEVEL 3 => apply [None] *in depth* (i.e. release all attributes)
Select your cells or your table and run the whole script.
Does it crash InDesign CC as well?
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I'm having a niggling problem making a table style with cell/paragraph styles for the header, body, and footer respectively. I want to make it as simple as possible for other users but one thing keeps tripping me up. I'll try and describe with screenshots. I'm using InDesign CS5 on Windows 7.
I have a table style set up with cell styles for the header, body, and footer, and paragraph styles for each as well. Say I'm converting a list of generic text to this table:
i convert it to my table style. The body style is a numbered list:
I convert the header to an, err, Header. The cell applies the header paragraph style as I should expect:
I convert the footer likewise, but it maintains the Body text paragraph style as an override!
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edit: Here is the file, if that will help:
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Hi,
I was able to reproduce the issue you are facing.
I will be logging a bug for this and it would be investigated.
Thanks a lot for reporting the problem!!
Javed

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I actually need the cell styles. That's what sets my font, spacing, and GREP styles.
I did find the solution today. In the table style or table setup, I needed to set the "Stroke Drawing Order" to "Column Strokes in Front". Even though it was previously set to "Best Joins" and I had no strokes for rows or for the table borders, it just wasn't giving priority to my dotted columns.
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I have about 10 table styles in a document and I want to replace all of them with the #1 table style. Can this be done with Find and Replace?

You'll need to do this for each of the Table formats that need to be replaced.
Let's assume the desired format is "Format A" (a default FM style), and one of the formats to be changed is "Specs 2".
Click in any instance of a Specs 2 table.
In the Table Tag field, pull down and click on [Format A].
Click Commands > Global Update Options:
(*) All Properties
(*) All Tagged [Specs 2]
[Update]
If it works properly, you'll get a dialog:
OK to change all Format B tags to Format A?
[OK]
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Trying this on FM7 at home, it didn't always work. I don't know if newer versions are more stable. Personally, I never do it this way (probably because of prior experience), and I usually just hack the MIF.

Why doesnt applies table style?

Give, pls a hint (again ;))
I plan to format table entirely (table style, all cells style, para body style, para header style and cell header style)
I stared with:
Set MyInd = CreateObject("InDesign.Application.CS3")
Set myDoc = MyInd.ActiveDocument
Set myPage = myDoc.Pages.Item(1)
MyInd.Paste '(get clipboard from word-table)
Set myStory = myDoc.Stories.Item(1)
Set myParagraph = myStory.Paragraphs.Item(1)
Set myTable = myParagraph.Tables.Item(1)
On Error Resume Next 'for debugging purpose
myTable.Rows.Item(1).RowType = idRowTypes.idHeaderRow
On Error GoTo 0
'myTable.AppliedTableStyle = "Table Style Body"
i work, but don't overrides
'myTable.AppliedCellStyle = "Table Style Body" '''the same
myTable.ApplyStyle "Table Style Body", True
i override, but "OBJECT DOESNT support!"
myTable.ApplyStyle "Cell Style Body", True 'the same
How to apply table style to whole table? (how to script correctly?)
Thanks

Yes.
I wrote like this:
kk = myTable.Columns.Count
With myTable
Call .Cells.ItemByRange(.Cells.Item(1), .Cells.Item(-1)).Item(-1).ClearCellStyleOverrides
Call .ClearTableStyleOverrides
Set mySel = .Cells.ItemByRange(.Cells.Item(1), .Cells.Item(-1)).Item(-1) 'for all table
Set mySelH = .Cells.ItemByRange(.Cells.Item(1), .Cells.Item(kk)).Item(-1) 'for only header
End With
myTable.AppliedTableStyle = "Table Style Body"
mySel.AppliedCellStyle = "Cell Style Body"
mySelH.AppliedCellStyle.AppliedParagraphStyle = "Table body"
mySelH.AppliedCellStyle = "Cell Style Head"
mySelH.AppliedCellStyle.AppliedParagraphStyle = "Table Head"
So we can apply parastyles only for object "cell", not for "table"?
So we must have specified range of cells for working with?
Thanks.

Table style alignment ignored?

TCS 2.0, linking FrameMaker 9 (unstructured) files to RH8.
My FrameMaker files have several one-cell right-aligned tables. I mapped all the tables to a table style called "Product" in RoboHelp.
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Here is my css entry for this table style:
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Table Styles, one font

I have set up a table style using a paragraph style and cell styles. The header is Lucida Bright 5pt font and the body of the table is Myriad Pro font in 7 point. When I apply the style to a new table, it picks up the Lucida font text formatting only, giving the whole table the Lucida Bright 5pt.
I've tried several time to set it up in the original document, gave up, set the table up in a new document saved the style (it works in the new document) then loaded it into the original document. Same result. I've checked for overrides and there are none. I've even tried it with a new table in the original document and get the same incorrect result. Is there a setting somewhere that I'm missing?

I've had the same problem. The entire table ends up with the paragraph style set to my 'Table Header' style, even the cells in the non-header rows.
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Create a new table style based on an existing table in a document

Hi,
In a document I'm working on, there is a specific table. It is made in the past by a colleague, and it has a very suitable format.
Therefore I would like to use the layout of this table on all future tables in my document (or even in others).
Is there an option to select my table, and create a new table style with it, so that I can use it over and over again? That would be very helpful.
I'm working in MS Word, MS Office Professional Plus 2010, on a Windows 7 64-bit OS.
Best regards, Sietske
Ps.: I know
a question like this was already asked, but the answer was quite dissatisfying (because it was not answering the question)
Pps: Note that I'm now creating a new table style from scratch, so an answer to the above question is not that urgent, but it would still be nice to know for future use.

you can use format painter
i hope that you already know about it.
Nope, not the right answer. With Format Painter, you can copy the format of the table, but you can't create a new Table Style with it. I am looking for a solution as well.

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Michael Murphy is the InDesign style-meister. He wrote "Adobe InDesign Styles" for Adobe Press, and did a great Lynda.com title on InDesign styling. Here's what he says in the book:
"As mentioned at the beginning of this chapter, with all the power of table and cell styles, it is important to understand not only how they work and what they can do for you, but also to understand their limitations.
"Two formatting features missing in table and cell styles have already been discussed: You will always have to set the column width and row height of cells when applying a table style for the first time, and you will always have to convert body rows to header and/or footer rows every time you apply a table style for first time or update the table's data....
"But there's another kind of limitation that's important to keep in mind as you are designing tables: It is very easy to design a table that cannot be completely defined by a table style. In many cases, you'll need to define an extra cell style or two that lets you complete for formatting. [my emphasis]."
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I'm having the same trouble. Looks like no way to create an overal 'table' style and I cannot access the table paragraph styles either.

[JS CS3] Find paragraphs that contain a single Style override

Given a document with consistently applied paragraph styles. I need to locate all the paragraphs in the document that contain a paragraph style override of the left indent. All other style overrides can be ignored.
I see in the DOM how to clear overrides, but is there any way to locate paragraphs that have a specific override?
I suspect there is no way to do this, but thought I'd throw this out there.

This will override a single paragraph attribute:
var myAttribute = "leftIndent";
var myParagraphs = app.activeDocument.stories.everyItem().paragraphs.everyItem().getElements();
for (var n = 0; n < myParagraphs.length; n++){
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Converting local character styles (overrides) to proper styles

Hi all,
I've been handed a document that has no styles defined at all. All styling is done the local character styles ("overrides").
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The fastest way I've found so far is to do a search for a particular font-size/font-type, and then apply a proper character style to each match, until the overrides are all gone. But maybe there's a faster way? E.g. is it possible to "select all matching text" (as you can do in Google Docs), that would select all text matching that font-size/type, and then with one click apply a style to all selected text?
Or maybe there's another way to convert all text matching e.g. font-size/font-type into a character style?
Thanks!
Bjoern

The auto-char styles script tries to be semi-intelligent: It ignores the underlying paragraph style completely. Instead, for each paragraph, it checks which is the longest continuous run of formatting in that paragraph (textStyleRange). That formatting is considered the "underlying formatting of the paragraph", and any other formatting in that paragraph is considered an override, and has an appropriate character created (if necessary) and applied to it.
The only exception to that is "italics", which is always considered an override, even there is more italics than regular in the paragraph (something that can happen in a bibliography entry, for instance).
So, for instance, with the formatting you give as an example ("No style, + Arial Bold + size: 24 + Leading 28"), where everything but the final paragraph return has that applied, Auto-Char Styles will not apply a character style to most of the text, and apply an appropriate char style to the final enter only.
That way, "all" that remains is to go through the document creating and applying paragraph styles as necessary, knowing that all local overrides have been styled with an appropriate char style.

InDesign CS3 crashing adding table style...HELP!!

This issue started on Friday. I just starting working on a large document that will have many tables throughout, so I must use the table styles. Here is the order in which I do things to get the crash.
Place document from Word in to InDesign document
Highlight table to be changed
Convert text using paragraph styles
Alter column widths to fit page
Highlight entire table to select table style
Click desired table style
CRASH!!!!
I have tried the following things with NO LUCK:
Deleted adobefntX file multiple times (actually worked for a couple of hours first time I did it)
Deleted InDesign preferences (did nothing)
Re-created all "Styles" in InDesign (Character, Paragraph, Cell, & Table) (Did nothing)
Changed the order in which I altered the tables text and formatting (thinking it was just a silly order problem)
Unistalled and Re-installed CS3 (worked for 5 tables and then CRASH)
Updated ALL software (Adobe and Mac)
Started up in Safe mode and CRASH!!!
I realize from seraching for this problem on the web that I am probably the ONLY person having this issue, but I thought it was a font problem until I started in Safe Mode and still crashed. I am totally confused as to what I should do next. I am running on a
Model Name:    MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:    MacBookPro4,1
Processor Name:    Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:    2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors:    1
Total Number Of Cores:    2
L2 Cache:    3 MB
Memory:    4 GB
Bus Speed:    800 MHz
Boot ROM Version:    MBP41.00C1.B03
SMC Version (system):    1.27f1
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

I am not familiar with InDesign Interchange, do you think this will help?
That's why I suggested it. But you didn't answer my question: Is this happening with only one file? The reason I ask is because if one file is corrupted, saving to INX and back to INDD often clears out minor corruptions. If you're seeing this in many files it's unlikely they're all corrupt.
1. Convert text using paragraph styles - I meant modified "placed" text using character styles
Now I'm really confused. Your steps are:
Place document from Word in to InDesign document
Highlight table to be changed
Modify placed text using character styles
Are you really highlighting an entire table and applying a character style? While this will work to modify certain formatting aspects, it's not really the best approach. Character styles are for characters *within* a paragraph. Paragraph styles are for *entire* paragraphs. Each table cell contains at least one full paragraph, even if it's just a single number, a space, even if there's nothing there at all. If you want to format the contents of an entire cell or range of cells with the same formatting, use a paragraph style, not a character style. If you want to italicize one or two words in some text in a cell (the way I just did), then use a character style.
I really feel that the issue either stems from fonts or from placing the document from Word.
Could be. Cheap fonts are the cause of many problems in Indesign. Indesign is really picky about fonts. But let's try the easy fix first (INX). If you don't trust it, save the .inx to a new .indd filename (keep your old .indd file as a backup).
Ken

Table styles in RH don't transfer to Word 2010

In RH, I have defined a table style called top-row-shaded, and have mapped this style for delivery to Word, in word-template.dot file. All RH tables of style top-row-shaded shoud map to my Word template style top-row-shaded, but they don't.
Does anyone kmow a fix?
If not, does anyone have a word macro that can convert my tables to the top-row-shaded style in the Word file?
My RH file has another table style (called no-border) that I don't want to convert, so I can't simply apply the style to all tables in the Word file.
Thanks, Joanne

Without setting up a test, I'm not sure why the tables are not mapping. By all means see the Contact page on my site and send me a one topic project and the Word template. I will take a look but it will be at least a week or so before I can.
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See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips
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