Text measurement in Fireworks CS3

Hi all,
I'm designing a phone app, and a styleguide for the design,
which require all the elements to be pixel perfect and add up to
the screen dimension. There are 2 problems I run into is how to
measure text in Fireworks CS3:
1) Fireworks CS3 measure text in point, not pixel. I use an
online converter but it doesn't quite work. (For example, 17point =
22.666 pixel. Should I just round it up to 23?)
2) Web text is measured based on the em square, not the size
of the character itself. Is there a way to find out the em square
size in Fireworks? (I thought the blue bounding box when the text
is selected is the em square, but I tried taking screenshot and
measure it, and it turned out that it's not the case).
So, to sum it up, what procedure should I follow to measure
text in a pixel perfect design in Fireworks CS3? Thanks.

But what about the tutorial you did for Lynda.com where you inserted the google map within an i-frame? I am in a similar situation where I am trying to just insert a scrolling text box within my layout done within FWCS4 using similar layout. Just simple scrolling text box that's it.
I see what you are saying though. DW is the true HTML dev tool but I'm just having too much damn fun in FW and don't want to leave. :]
Kevin

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Creating webpage in fireworks CS3. Is text searchable by search engines?

Hello all,
I started using fireworks cs3 to design webpages. I've been
using Dreamweaver cs3. I'm new to the whole flash designing. When
you put text and images to design your whole layout, is the text
searchable by search engines?
I noticed that once you save your file as a swf when you open
it you can't highlight any text to copy? I was wondering how I
would go about putting the meta tag info in and make the text so
the search engines would be able to scan the pages to pull up in
search results?
Thank you all!

FW can be used to create prototype HTML pages, but those
should never be
used for real production work. The code is fragile and
sub-optimal (as is
any wizard-based HTML). Your graphics application should be
used to produce
the images used on the page, which is created in Dreamweaver.
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> cs3. I'm new to the whole flash designing. When you put
text and images
> to
> design your whole layout, is the text searchable by
search engines?
>
> I noticed that once you save your file as a swf when you
open it you can't
> highlight any text to copy? I was wondering how I would
go about putting
> the
> meta tag info in and make the text so the search engines
would be able to
> scan
> the pages to pull up in search results?
>
> Thank you all!
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Blurry Text using Fireworks CS3 version

I'm creating an ad for use in our local phone book yellow
pages using CS3 Fireworks. When I save it in .png or .jpg and print
it out it is very blurry and unacceptable. I made the mistake of
submitting an ad for something else thinking that the pros would be
able to print it out and it would be clear - and it printed
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quote:
Originally posted by:
Champ3708
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properties say the Max Resolution is 1200dpi. I'm really baffled
that this would happen in such a high end software such as
Fireworks CS3 version. How can anyone design anything using fonts
if this happens.
Yep, it's a tiny image. At 1200 dpi a 300-pixel image would
look good at about 1/4 inch. Maybe 1/2 inch, but it'll start to
look kinda blurry. Your printer may not have the same resolution as
the printer the phone book will be printed on, so you need to know
the print shop's recommendations. Then, do some math. If you know
the size in inches you want your advertisement to be, multiply
those dimensions by the dpi to get the dimensions in pixels to make
your Fireworks document. (Ignore the dpi settings in Fireworks.)
You could possibly get by with something half as big, but you
should ask the print shop for recommendations.
Better still is to use Illustrator or another vector drawing
program and submit scalable art in .ai or .eps format. But, again,
check with the print shop for guidelines.

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When I create a web page in Fireworks CS3 and export it the
page apears on the left side of the screan. I want it to be in the
center of the screan. How do I make it centered? I know that if I
open it in MS Front Page I can select page properties and center
the page in that program but how do I do it in Fireworks?

robweed7 wrote:
> Thanks, I am a beginner. And I understand the "(barf)"
with frontpage. Our
> church ordered frontpage for me to use, then I
discovered Adobe products, and
> can't afford it. I did get them to get me fireworks
though and as a beginner
> it is the coolest graphic design program I have used.
Look at NVu which is free and does a very decent job. I tried
it when it
was only in beta and it was promising although it couldn't
get me to
switch from Dreamweaver. I haven't used the final version but
I'm
certain it will give you better results than using Fireworks'
rigid and
easily breakable exported HTML and certainly a lot better
than FrontPage.
http://www.nvu.com/
> I have another question should you know the answere. As
a beginner I created
> the web page graphics in Fireworks then opened it in
Frontpage(barf) and
> finished the page. I uploaded it to my server and it
looks great in I-Explorer
> but is all chopped up in FireFox. If I publish it
straight from Fireworks it
> looks fine in FireFox. Why, and what do i do?
This is because, despite its flaws (and they are severe),
Fireworks'
exported code is less proprietary and more cross browser
compatible than
FrontPage's. I believed that later versions of FrontPage
created better
code but your story proves once again that no visual Web
"design"
application that falsely promise WYSIWYG is a substitute for
learning
the basics of Web design and development and getting your
hands dirty in
HTML and CSS code to understand how things work. Web design
is certainly
not only about the visuals and any designer who thinks he can
get away
with only creating Web sites visually without the need for a
working
knowledge of the underlying code is seriously delusional (not
saying
this is your case).
I do not mean you need to create your sites' code in NotePad
(which is
completely inefficient IMO). But you do need to understand
how things
work under the hood to make the right decisions in your
editor and be
able to fix problems. WYSIWYG is a pipe dream. Don't buy into
it.
Until you can afford something like Dreamweaver, NVu could
serve your
needs as it offers a source code view and apparently creates
decent code
out of the box. Learning to code HTML and CSS in a more text
based
application may be better for you in the long run if you are
serious
about learning this craft properly though. I'm sorry that I
cannot point
you to specific learning resources as it's been years since I
was a
beginner in this field and learned from too many sources. If
there is
one book I could recommend that I wish had been around when I
started
out in early 1996, it would be Zeldman's "Designing with Web
Standards".
This could be one of the smartest investment you make right
now:
http://tinyurl.com/2s2dhg
(direct link to book page on Amazon)
HTH!
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artysmarty
The way I've converted large text blocks is to copy it from
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Special: Unformatted text - it should drop in with the correct
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Fireworks CS3 slow startup

Hi folks,
I installed CS3 Web Premium last week. Not had chance to play
with it a lot as yet but I have come across one irritation already:
When I launch Fireworks CS3 it takes between 10 and 20 seconds from
the program loading on screen to being able to either open a file
or create a new file. Clicking anywhere (e.g. menus) while waiting
gives a 'Not Responding' error message in the window title bar.
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knows how I might improve the startup responsiveness.
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Nigel Hodgetts wrote:
> McCaffee VirusScan Enterprise.
> 699 fonts
Ok... that's 2 strikes against you right there... ;-) The
only thing
worse is if you had Norton Antivirus but I guess they're both
about
equally crappy (seriously).
First thing I would try would be to exclude the entire
Fireworks
application folder from VirusScan's real time check and same
for its
application data folder in Documents and Settings. Ideally, I
would
ditch Mcaffee and get a good antivirus like AVG or NOD32.
Both are very
light on resources and will not slow down your system. AVG
has a free
version but NOD32 is about the best antivirus money can buy
(it's not
that expensive). I've been running it for over a year now and
it's the
best I tried. I needed the lightest resources hungry AV
possible as I'm
a musician and run resources intensive software that needs to
work well
in real time.
In your case, the number of fonts is probably a greater cause
of your
slow FW startup time than McAffee. You really should invest
in good font
management software. There are free solutions you can look up
on Google
but the one I prefer is Extensis Suitcase (version 11 came
out
recently). A cheaper and very good alternative is FontExpert
from
Proxima Software which had a new version release recently.
Ideally, you should never keep no more than about 50-100
fonts directly
installed in your Windows font folder and should activate and
deactivate
fonts on a "as needed" basis using font management software.
More than
about 300 installed fonts (less on some machines) will
definitely slow
down your graphic apps startup time and Fireworks is
especially
sensitive to that. I manage over 5000 fonts (yes, that's 5
thousand)
with Suitcase but I never have more than about 75-100 fonts
installed/activated at once.
Some font management software also come with plugins for
certain apps
that will automatically find and load missing fonts when
opening a
document. Unfortunately, none come with one for Fireworks
AFAIK but
FontExpert has one for Illustrator and Suitcase as plugins
for both
Illustrator and InDesign. Both companies say they'll probably
produce
more so, if your purchase either, enter official feature
requests for
missing font loader plugins for Fireworks.
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deeper than
just the font name to find a match which is very important
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Windows 7 and Fireworks CS3

Was anyone here able to run Fireworks CS3 flawlessly on
Windows 7? It has very strange behavior. I was able to get it run
for the first time after I have waited for more than hour to start
it. Then I activated it and was able to work with it without
problems. After restart it takes again forever to start. It looks
to me like there is no problem with fireworks but with some code
which is checking if the copy is legal and this is causing the
delay. I used FW very occasionally just to create some web
graphics, i bought FW8 and then i bought upgrade just to be able to
run it on windows vista. i really dont want to buy upgrade again to
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update
Now it stopped working and I have got this message
Licensing for this product has stopped working.
You cannot use this product at this time. You must repair the
problem by uninstalling and then reinstalling this product or
contacting your IT administrator or Adobe customer support for
help.

On Windows 7? That's a beta product. If you want to use
Windows 7 you can expect problems as the purpose of the beta test
is to
find problems. CS3 works well on Vista. If you need to work
productively, use a released product, not a beta.
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ago. Something hung in Fireworks and not only would Fireworks not
start, none of my other CS3 apps (on Vista) would start. I got the
same error message in each. It is something in the licensing
product that Adobe uses. I searched Google for the text of the
error message and found a KB article that eventually got things
working.
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb401528
I had to run the utility all three times, and then keep on
going through the other steps of moving off file folders before my
apps started working again. It was frustrating for the to stop
working, like that, and I kept being disappointed at having to move
on to the next "if that didn't work, do this." But at least they're
working again!

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n a planning application Under Account Dimension we have Members as
Rate,
Quantity,
Customer_Name,
Customer_City,
Rate and Quantity are number measures .
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Limitations :
1.We have to load the data directly from the Staging Oracle tables.
2.There are no ETL tools.
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Plan to Load data directly to Planning/Essbase cube using Open SQL method . But its not allowing to load text data unless or until I predefined in a DB.
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KABOOM.
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In a planning application Under Account Dimension we have Members as
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Customer_Name,
Customer_City,
Rate and Quantity are number measures .
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Keny Alex

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KABOOM.
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NB -- This utility exists in Planning 11 onwards.
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hi
i've upgraded to Web Premium Suite CS3.
Q: i have several PSD source file for animated GIF's created
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looing the "animation"
many thanks
Ueli

ugisiger wrote:
> hi
> no any extras. simply 5 layers "distributed" on the
timeline.
> if i open a "animated" psd, so i get a file with the
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>
> Ueli
>
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I installed
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I have recently upgraded to Windows 7 Pro from Windows XP Pro. My Fireworks CS3 is having a problem. I cannot select items in the left side menu bar if I minimize or move the Fireworks CS3 window. If I have just opened the window it works, but minimize the window or move it and the toolbar stops working.
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http://www.sevenforums.com/software/26957-adobe-fireworks-cs3-issue.html
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Businesses with mission-critical software usually are very careful to research that their software will run on any proposed new system or that alternative software is available. This is the main reason that Microsoft had to continue supporting XP longer than they intended. Too much business-critical software ran on XP but did not run under Vista and would take some time before it would be upgraded to do so...if at all.
If you have "bread and butter" apps, then it was your responsibility to make sure that you could run them once you upgraded. Adobe's software worked more or less as advertised for the operating systems that were available at the time the versions were released. That's reasonable. Expecting indefinite support into the future is not.
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http://store.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/software/fireworks4/systemreqs.html
However, there's a statement about CS4 applications (in general) working with Windows 7:
http://www.adobe.com/products/fireworks/faq/?anonymous_element_1=4
And you'd want to get the recent updater:
http://www.adobe.com/support/fireworks/downloads_updaters.html
speedtigger wrote:
... It is probably not a huge problem to fix for an Adobe engineer.
If the feature worked under Vista but does not work under Windows 7, then that means that the problem probably lies somewhere in how the program communicates with the OS. The problem is not isolated to the tens - possibly hundreds - of thousands of lines of Fireworks code, but in how that code interacts with the Windows 7 APIs. To solve this problem is not the work of "an Adobe engineer." It's the work of a project team. It's the work of a project team which would have to be pulled off development of Fireworks CS5 for a few months to resurrect the old CS3 code, get familiar with it, and try to track down and solve the problem, then package up, test, and release a patch . By pulling resources off CS5 development, CS5 would be delayed or quality inversely impacted. Since CS3 is not a current product for sale, I can't see Adobe making this investment. There's no return on it, where there would be a return on getting a quality FW CS5 out the door on time.

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