Third party w/o miro

could you make me familiar with the concept of THIRDPARTY without MIRO
thanks in advance
krish

Dear,
I can't understand your problem. But as per my knowladge you want to learn about third party concept.It is as bellow.
When you create purchase order for material, to transfert it from manufacture to your plant you have pay some amount to transporter. So at the time of this type of scnario two bill for payment.
1. For material payment
2. For transporter payment.
Now for both it is possible both vendor 1. who is provide you material and 2. who is provide you service for tranfer your material so mya be possible that both are different.
So at the time of this type of scnario we maintain second vendor at the item level of purchase order ---> condition type ---> Transporter Third party ---> header ---> Define vendor code.
So with help of this condition type - Transporter third party you can prepaid two invoice verification for two different vendor.
It it is useful for u, Please check and confirm.
Regards,
Mahesh Wagh

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This is regarding error message while doing MIRO (IR)
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For this PO , I could find 10 invoices already posted in the system.
Between when these invoices were posted , there were some changes done to the PO.
But even after those changes , many invoices were posted in the system,
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the error message is ** Account determination for entry SKPL WRX 0002 _ 1020 not possible** while posting.
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The system did not find an account for this transaction. This means that the account determination for key SKPL WRX 0002 _ 1020 is not maintained in MM Customizing (Valuation). The key is made up of:
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Note
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PLEASE SUGGEST ME SOME SOLUTION.
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Hi Raman,
Yes, still i am getting error.
before when the invoice is posted , there is no error.
there are some 10 invoices posted already , but there are some changes done in the PO , after that they could post two invoices but for the third invoice , i am getting this error.
when the invoive is posted without error , these are the account movements that are hit
Here
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27411000 is a G/L for tax.
What could have pulled out this WRX error (Account determination for entry SKPL WRX 0002 _1020 not possible ) for me????
can u suggest me some solutions.
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Vinoth

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Hi all
what is the accounting entries after MIRO in third party process
Where material delivered from Vendor to Customer directly and vendor bill to company
Edited by: sandipamore on Sep 21, 2011 8:45 AM

Hello
Accounting entries for 3rd Party Sales:
After MIRO
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GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
After VF01
Customer Account - Dr
Sales Revenue A/c - Cr
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JP

Creating billing after MIRO in third party sales

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we have a senario in Third party sales senario how to restrict the user to make to delivery and billing before the MIGO and MIRO. please help us this is urgent.
Thanks in Advance.

Hi Abdul Rahim,
Pleas use item category TAS (standard third party item category) and maintain the existing copy control settings for the Scedule line category. If you use TAS then we will not be able to do the billing before MIRO is done. In VF01 it will give you Incomplete log. Further, in normal third party scenario there should not be any delivery and MIGO.It is always Order related Billing process. So please elaborate the business scenario to understand the Delivery and MIGO requirement.
Hope it will help you to some extent.
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Error miro posting in third party sales order

error in miro posting in third party sales order occured i.e, level F1 belongs to cash position(source symbol BNK)....
pls solve the problem it is very urgent...

Hi,
Process
VA01 - Create sales order (Schedule line CS and item category TAS) >> ME52N - PR is generated after save of sales order >> ME21N - Convert PR in to P.O >> Then vendor will send goods to customer and will send invoice to our company >> MIRO - Invoice receipt from vendor >> VF01 - Final invoice to customer
When you enter vendor invoice then you come to know that vendor sent qty. same will be billed to customer(Billing relevance in item category should be F)
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Cant create customer invoice without MIRO in third party

Hello There ,
This is third party scenario
I Have set Billing relevance "F" in the parameter of item categary of third party which help me in updating the status of sales order as completed as soon as first invoice gets created.
but this Billing relevance 'F' only supports to create customer invoice only when invocie receipt(MIRO)
is created then only we can create the customer invoice.
My requirement is to create the customer invoice on the basis of MIGO quanity not on the MIRO quantity.
And sales order Status should be completed as soon as the invoice gets
created.
Because MIRO will be created in future date.
Whenever i try to create customer invocie after MIGO it throws as error that " Order is not relevant for billing"
In other words it asks me to create MIRO document. As soon as i create MIRO document , system will allow me to create customer invocie.
Please help me in this.
I want to create customer invoice after MIGO and before MIRO in case of third party while billing relevance is u2018Fu2019 in item category.
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HI Ravi,
Here the problem is My client they dont create customer invoice of total quantity.
Flow is like this -
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1000LBS 1000 LBS 850 LBS 850 LBS 850 LBS
Here in this scenario they are going to deliver only 850 LBS .Rest 150 they will never deliver.
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Why req MIGO and MIRO in third party scenario

Hello All,
In third party scenario why we req to do MIGO in ref to PO.
In 3rd party we create sales order with item cat TAS.
We got the PR
with ref to PR we create PO.
then we do MIGO and MIRO
also If vendor is delivering the goods why we do the Delivery and PGI and then Invoice
Why not Invoice with ref to sales order.
regards,
abhijit

Hi
In Third Party sales, the Item category is TAS ,if the Vendor directly supplies to the end customer.
In Item category TAS, "Billing Relevance" is "F", i,e. Order related billing as per invoice quantity.
If the Item category of the Third Party item is TAS, then Schedule line category is CS in standard. If you will go to CS, you will find , the "Delivery relevance" field is blank and there is no "Goods movement" also. That means no Delivery takes place against the Sales order, so no goods issue.
This clearly indicates, we do not create any Delivery and no goods receipt takes place in third party sales process, when the vendor directly sends the goods to the customer.
Once the goods are send to the end customer, Vendor creates an invoice and sends to the ordering company. Now, ordering company goes for Invoice verification ,what the vendor has sent to him. We only go for MIRO here and not MIGO.
After that, the ordering company, creates the Customer invoice with reference to the Sales order(placed by its customer) and sends it to its customer.
Complete process:
Once the order is received from the custome(say ABC)r, the company (say XYZ) creates a Sales order ---> Purchase requisition is automatically triggered from the sales order -
> from this Purch requisition a PO is created for the vendor -
> aginst the PO, Vendor delivers the goods to the customer ABC and charge the ordering company,sends invoice for the same to the ordering company XYZ -
> Ordering company XYZ does Vendor's invoice verification and creates a Customer invoice with reference to customer's(ABC) order and sends to the customer ABC.
Some times Vendor sends the goods to the ordering company and then ordering company delivers the goods to its customer.
Vendor does not deliver directly to the end customer in this case.
In this case Item category is TAB and Schedule line category is CB.
Here, Billing relevance is "A" - (Delivery related billing) in the Item category TAB, that means here Delivery takes place and Billing is created with reference to the Delivery created to the customer.
In Schedule line category CB, you will find, 'Delivery relevance" field is activated and there is a movement type "601".
So, Delivery and goods issue both takes place here.
Here we go for both MIGO and MIRO.

Third party items are not invoiced totally though the MIRO done for all

Hi Gurus,
I have a third party sales order with 3 item lines.
All these three items are delivered to the customer by the vendor and invoice verification MIRO also done for all three.
Now when the order related invoice creation background job run and invoice created for this order is missing the first line item in the invoice. I cant understand what is the problem with first item line? Order is now not in the invoice due list also. manually invoice creation also gives the log that the order is completely invoiced. But when we see the document flow for item line 1 it says the item line is yet open and not invoiced.
suggest me as the invoice posting is required for this item line also. suggest all the possible reasons.
regards,
Sandesh

Hi Navneetha,
Thanks for d reply.
I hv checked d mentioned tables and Itm Categories nothing is +ve there. All 3 itms hv TAS itm category. Also I agree with ur MIRO statement.
I found one thing which might b d cause plz check.
As we knw dat we cant change the schedule ln date and quantity once the Pur. Requisition created. and we cant make changes in sales order itm line if the PO is created for that Pur. Requisition. Bcoz afteward the PO wont be updating the Pur Requsition and sales order automatically.
But here the schedule line date at d schedl ln category for itm 2 is changed by a certain Batch job after the PO cration.
Therefore I think this wd b d reason that the item line 2nd is not getting updated in sales order from the PO and looks open.
The change of schedule line dates is not maintained in the PO manually ever.
So would it b d reason for the inconsistent doc flow updates and 2nd item being open as not invoiced yet?
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Third party: trigger customer invoice from MIRO

Hi all,
this is the requierement: after the MIRO of the vendor invoice it's ncessary to trigger automatically the customer invoice (third party flow).
Do you know specific userexit to use? Other solutions?
Let me know for further information.
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G

Dear Giorgio
Please clarify me why you want the Customer Invoice along with Vendor Invoice??
Suppose in Third party, you will ask your vendor to supply goods directly to your customer-
But here the issue is when you will raise customer invoice and Vendor invoice?
Suppose let us take one scenario--Customer came and you delivered the goods from your vendor to your customer in this week itself.The agreed terms between you and your customer is 30 days.So normally you need to create Customer invoice after he/she receiving the goods.
Why are you waiting in creating Customer invoice can happen at 89-90th day as per your requirement.
(Suppose the Agreed payment terms between you & Your vendor is 90 days--So normally you will be raising an invoice MIRO at 89th or 90th day to your vendor)
Clarify me on this.
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Third Party--Miro

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If I want to change sales pricing condition type or values in cond type in transaction MIRO while doing third party processing, How can i do it.please help me.I am testing a scenario where i have to make changes in pricing condition type by adding , removing or by any changes.Please guide me

Hi sachin
In MIRO , we enter with purchase number as reference. So the price in the PO will be flowing to the MIRO .So if you want to change the price you need to change the price in the PO ( in ME22N).
Regards
Srinath

While doing MIGO & MIRO for Third Party V/D

Hi Gurus,
While doing MIGO for Third Party Vendor, I am facing the below mentioned error.
Maintain number range object for object J_1IRG23A1, year 2008, excise group V1
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Kindly suggest the solution for that.........
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Accounting Entries hit in Third party Sales Process

Hi,
Can anybody tell which accounting entries are hit when we create the following entries in third party sales process
1.When Sales Order is created.
2.When PR is Created
3.When ME21N is done
4.MIGO
5.MIRO
please provide your valuable suggestion..
Thanks...

Hi,
1. When Sales Order is created.
No FI Entry
2. When PR is Created
No FI Entry
3. When ME21N is done
No FI Entry
4. MIGO
(GBB-VAY) COGS - 3rd Party A/c - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
5. MIRO
Vendor Account - Cr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
6. VF01
Customer Account - Dr
Sales Revenue A/c - Cr

Billing in Third party order process

Hi,
In the last stage of TPO Process we need to do billing.kINDLY inform what is the reference document when we want to do billing for a third party order process in VF01, Is it sales order?

Hi,
In the Third Party processing,
You refer the Sales order for creating the Billing document to the end customer
In the Item category level of the Third party, one field which control the Billing relevance
If you check the BILLING RELEVANCE for TAS item category, it is F which says, the billing will be based on the MIRO ( vendor invoice)
In general for Third Party, Vendor will directly send material/Goods to the customer and that notification will be sent to the company.
If say, out of 10 PO items, Vendor has send only 5 quantity to the customer and we have to bill the customer for only 5 quantities so once the billing is generated it will refer to the invoice quantity of the MIRO
Hope it is clear,
regards,
santosh

Free of charge third party process.

Dear Gurus,
I want to create a sales order with a third party material with zero price, create a PO and invoice the PO with zero value.
Could you please tell me how this can be achieved and what are the necessary settings in config to be changed?
Thank You
Kumar

Hi Kumar,
the third party process is as follows:
1.Customer will order the material from the Company X.
2.Company X will not have stock of the material.
3.Company will raise a PO for the material to the Vendor & asks the Vendor to deliver the material to the customer.
4.Vendor will directly deliver the material to the customer & will send the invoice to the Company X.
5. Company X will then raise a invoice to the Customer wrt on the Sales order.
Create a Sales order with item category TAS, Schedule line category CS(standard).Once the SO is saved, go to the change mode of the SO, go to Schedule lines tab, & note down the PR number.
With reference to the PR, create the PO & then MIGO and MIRO.
Then create the invoice wrt the SO.
Let me know if you hav any problems.
Regards,
MP

Return process in third party

Hi sap gurus,
please find one senario mentioned below
i have raised a sales order with 630 units of a third party material, followed by
630 units of Tata Swach Crystal were sold to M/s Friendu2019s Combine Indore (Madhya Pradesh) through third party sale order from TWGZ plant (Uttarpradesh) on 30/11/2011.
It was a CST sale. Here all the sales are made against advance payment.
Materials were purchased from The Supreme Industries Noida. Since it was a third party sale, initially Third Party Sale order (SO No - 2010209914) was created. Order type ZTPS.
From the sale order Purchase requisition was generated (PR No -3900009137 ) and then PO was generated (PO No - 4100007931).Based on the PO vehicle was loaded and GR (GR No - 5105605330) and Miro was done and then invoice (Invoice No u2013 2644001743) was generated in the warehouse (TWGZ plant).
Invoices were handed over to the driver and vehicle was dispatched for delivery of goods to Indore. Goods are invoiced on delivered basis (Vehicle is arranged by company).
Now on the way to Indore (in MP) vehicle met an accident and 50% of the materials got damaged.
50% good stocks were kept at transport go down for about 1 year where it took time for investigation to complete for insurance claim. In the mean time company has come up with a new warehouse at Indore (TWID plant). Now that the investigations are over, company wants to take GR/build up 50% good stocks in TWID plant.
Also note that after the accident to cater customer requirement, credit for 630 units were given to the customeru2019s account. Now it is also important to normalise customeru2019s account as because customer had already paid the amount in advance.
Now please suggest the ways to build up the 50% good stock in TWID plant.

Hello,
Firstly, let me request you not to disclose the Client's business details (like Customer Name, Vendor Name, Material Name, Plant codes, etc) on Public Forums.
Now, coming to your question, there are many angles to your question.
1. The Transaction has happened sometime in November 2010 & you too would know that MM & FI Periods would be closed by now.
2. Your client would have already filled Excise & Sales Tax Returns to espective authorities by now.
3. You have mentioned that after accident Credit of 630 Units was given to Customer? What do you mean by this statement? Was a Credit Memo was issued? or the Advance Payment received Entry was reversed? or another Delivery of 630 units was made to Customer?
4. What about Vendor? Has he already beed paid?
You will have to throughly discuss this matter with client & ask them what is that they exactly require to be done now & then explore the options.
Hope this helps,
Thanks,
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