Time Machine in Workgroup Manager

In Workgroup Manager - "Computer Group", you will find "Preferences" for Time Machine. In "Details" you will see "com.apple.MCX.TimeMachine".
If I edit the file I will find a key with "BackupSkipSys boolean true". That's mean that my server dont take backup of my clients systemfiles.
Is there other keys that I can use? Is there a key for not taking backup of Applications Folder? Is there a key for not taking backup a specific kind of files , if I dont wont to take backup on movie files?
Regards!
Bengt Nilsson

Hello Peter,
Thanks for your answer.
There must be something wrong in the different steps I follow.
Firts I set Time machine on the server for each user, shoosing the Volume "SmartStor" (a network volume attached on the Mac Mini server) it creates a "Shared items" folder with a "Backups" folder in.
In Server Admin tools I can see in the AFP services the share point /Backups
In Workgroup Manager I set the Time Machine's preferences for the different computers and computers' group with the path afp://myserver.local/Backups/
At least on my client's computer I can shoose the volume "Backups" "on my server".
And it doesn't work... even with all the logins and password, User's, Dir Admin and Server Admin.
With User's and Dir Admin it runs quickly and tells "the volume is not reachable on account of wrong user's name or password"
With Server Admin login and password it runs indefinitly, nothing occurs ...
Is there something to do in terminal ?
Well I tried to find explanations on the web but I found nothing for the moment... The informations are to set a network volume in Terminal in place of the default one...
'Hope to find soon, I can't stand that something runs for every one but not with me...

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Manage meaning what.. an old backup cannot really be managed.. it is a backup.. you restore from it.. you don't manage it.
But if you merely mean to open it.. and TM is refusing to allow it to be opened.. well that is part and parcel of the Mavericks TM... !!
Pondini has instructions for opening TM backups from other Macs.. same rules apply here.
See Q14-17 here. 16 and 17 being the key ones.
http://pondini.org/TM/FAQ.html
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See B5 and B6 here.
http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
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This is typical Mavericks excellent networking.
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1. I strongly recommend full factory reset of the Time Capsule.
No files on the disk will be lost.
The Factory Reset universal
Unplug your TC/AE. Hold in reset. and power the TC/AE back on.. all without releasing reset and keep holding in for about 10sec. The time is not important.. it is the front LED rapid flashing that indicates you are in factory mode.
Release reset.
If it doesn’t flash rapidly you have released reset at some point and try again.
Be Gentle! Feel the switch click on. It has a positive feel.. add no more pressure after that.
TC/AE will reboot after a couple of minutes with default factory settings and will wipe out previous configurations.
No files are deleted on the hard disk.. No reset of the TC deletes files.. to do that you use erase from the airport utility.
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TCwifi for wireless name. Do not accept the names the airport utility will give you.
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I need some advice. I have a question, which I think is simple, but my situation is a bit complicated, so I am not sure about what to do.
I will try to describe it as simply as possible.
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jcolinger3 wrote:
I have about 10 users with Macs.
Is there any application/tool I can use to manage all of their Time Machines in one place?
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The instructions for inheriting old backups is B5 and B6 here.
http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
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