Time machine thinks my disc is larger than it is

All of a sudden time machine thinks my backup is 1.92 TB I only have a 1.5 TB disk with 609GB on it. I am backing up to a 1.5 TB disk. I have reformatted the backup and thrown out the time machine prefs and checked my startup disk with disc utility.
"This backup is too large for the backup disk. The backup requires 1.92 TB but only 1.50 TB are available."

Two possiblities:
Most likely, there's another volume (disk or partition) connected to your Mac that Time Machine is trying to back up.  The 1.92 TB figure is actually inflated by 20%; the estimated size of the backup is about 1.6 TB. 
Also possible is something corrupted on your internal HD, leading TM to think a file/folder is enormous.  You sai you've checked the internal with disk utiltiy, but did you run Verify Disk (not Verify Disk Permissions)?  If not, give that a try.
If neither of those helps, you might use the widget #A1 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting to find the messages for the backup.  Copy and post them here and we might be able to spot a clue.  

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