Trading material Price Control

Hi expert
I would like to know for price Control must be kept for Trading material, the same time we are procuring and selling the same.....i doesn't want MAP keep change most of time.
Regard
Nabil

Hi,
SAP Note 81682 - Pr.contr.V for semi-finished and finished
products;- Read this sap note
SAP strongly recommends that you do not select price control V for+
+semi-finished products and finished products, because doing so will very+
+easily cause the calculation of unrealistic valuation prices. SAP+
+recommends: Price control V for raw materials and trading goods; price+
+control S for semi-finished products and products.+
+If you nevertheless select price control V, take care in the following+
+situations:
Regards
Kailas Ugale

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Price control in material master.

Dear all,
How can i change the Price control key(V to S) in material master.
and what are the implication after change the price control.
Please suggest.
Regards,
Vishal Garg

Hello
In the SAP System, there are two types of price control:
Standard price & Moving average price.
These two types of price control differ in how they handle price variances resulting from goods receipts or invoice receipts.
Changing the Type of Price Control
Under certain conditions, you can change the type of price control:
From standard price to moving average price
You can make this change at any time. The moving average price (which until now has been updated for informational purposes only) replaces the standard price and is used for valuation from now on.
From moving average price to standard price
You cannot make this change in the following two cases:
If the material master record is set up as a valuation header record for a material subject to split valuation
If the standard price comes from costing and is not equal to the moving average price
If the change is possible, the moving average price becomes the standard price, which is then used for valuation.
You change the type of price control by overwriting the price control indicator in the material master record with the new indicator.
Changing the type of price control for a material does not change the value of the material stock, since in both cases the current price becomes the new price.
An example is given below:
Standard price to Moving average price
Material A
Price control: S
Moving average Price: 8
Standard Price: 10
Total Stock: 100
Total Stock value: 1000
Now we change the material price control to 'V'. Then
Material A
Price control: M
Moving average price:10
Standard price: 10
Total Stock: 100
Total Stock value: 1000
Moving average to standard price
Material B
Price control: V
Moving average Price: 8
Standard Price: 0
Total Stock: 100
Total Stock value: 800
Now we change the material price control to 'S'. Then
Material B
Price control: S
Moving average price:8
Standard price: 8
Total Stock: 100
Total Stock value: 800
Hope this will clear your doubts.

Procurement type Vs Price Control

Dear All,
We are maintaining price control as V for procurement type F, and S for E.
Is there any possibility, for automatic change in price control when the changing the procurement type from F to E.
Regards,
Venkat.

Hello Venkat,
Price control is for Material master, but not for the procurement type. Once you set the price control in the material master (i.e. in Accounting view of the material master) system will calculate the stock value (i.e. for internal stock updation by value purpose) in the material master.
As you said, material price control is V (i.e. MAP): Moving average price.
And here,
F ---> an Account assignment of Customer Individual requirement
S --> Thirdparty Item category (i.e.TP is a type of procurement)
E --> an Account assignment for Order
It is not possible to change the price control automatically when you change the procurement type manually. Because the price control (i.e. V or S is possible) setup is done at Master data configuration (i.e. Material type configuration). But document (i.e. creation of PO) level it is not possible.
Suggestion: Changing the price control of a material master always is not advisable. Because there will be lot of impact on Inventory and as well as Finance. And moreover it is a configuration setup for material type (i.e. property of a material or material master) in sap. Hence it is not possible at document level.
Hope this will clarifies you,
Reward, if it helps,
Regards,
Srin.K

Price control for MIGO

Dear experts,
I need to know what is the settings required for "When doing GR, price in MIGO should be from the PIR and not from standard price of the material".
Please advice

Hi,
Material - Price control = S and standard price = USD 30
PIR - Has a condition record valid for Feb-2011 and price = USD 25
PO created and price in PO = same as that of PIR = USD 25 (this is fine)
PIR price control = 5 (GR date)
MIGO - completed
In ME23N or MIGO, when I display GR document, it shows the price was picked up from Material master and not from PIR
MIRO- Price = PIR price (no issues here)
All I need is to know whether we can have MIGO alos pick up same price from PIR condition record which is valid for the GR date?
Best Regards,
Shashidhar

Price Control for Traded Goods

Hi
Can you please suggest what shld be the price control for the Traded Finished Goods
Which is the better option S or V
Regards
Ash

Hi,
Would always prefer price control V- Moving Average Price, because most of the time for stocks, the stocks are valuated at the real price of procurement.
Standard price can be opted for FERT material, where most of the time the prices are not fluctuating.
Anand

Moving average price as price control in material master: Erroneous entries

Dear All,
Recently we did a price control change from standard price to moving average price for one of our clients and scenario testing was done. We came across the following issue at the IR point and this error occur time to time ( not for all POs )Following steps were followed
Scenario
1. Create a PO for 1000 Kg of material A @ 1USD
2.GR the purchase order- at this point correct values are passed to stock account
3.consumed 250 Kg from the above material and from the same batch- correct values are passed to the accounts correctly
4.invoice verification is done for the above PO with a price variance of 100 USD. The error occur at this time ( some times )
Correct entry:
Dr GR/IR account 1000
Dr Stock account 75 (Price variance is charged proportionately charge to the balance stock)
Dr price variance 25 (Price variance is charged proportionately on the consumed stock)
Cr Vendor 1100
But sometimes the value does not pass accurately for the same PO. Accounting entries are as follows.
( this is same scenario with new purchase order with different master records )
Dr GR/IR account 1000
Dr Stock account 100 (Total price variance is charged to the stock account and its incorrect this should be only 75 as explain above )
Cr Vendor 1100
This error occurs sometimes even though the vendor master record and purchase orders are sand same as the time of pass correct entries . All these time GR based invoice verification tick has activated in PO as well as vendor master .
Appreciate your advice.
Tks
Sandagomi
Edited by: Sandagomi Ranasinghe on May 9, 2010 9:25 AM

Thank you for the information. But this is not the system behavior , system proportionately add the price variance to the stock qty which is remaining in the stock also it proportionately charge the price variance to the price variance account which is consumed before the invoice verification.But time to time it passes the incorrect entries.
eg , Create a PO for 100KG @ 1USD
       GR                     100KG
       Consumed           25
      IR , here we IR at higher value than the PO price
     PO value is USD 100
    IR    value    USD 100 + 12 = 112
Correct IR entry : Vendor              CR    112
                             GR/IR                 Dr    100
                             Stock                 DR      8 ( 75% of the stk is reaming in stk so relevant variance is USD 8 )
                             Price variance   DR      4 ( 25% of the consumed , so relevant variance is USD 4 )
And this is accurate with accounting principles and standards .
Actually system correctly calculate the above entries . but some times it pass the incorrect entry , this is my issue.
In the erroneous entry it does not segregate the price variance , If we consider the same scenario as above at the time of erroneous entry the system pass entries as below:
                            Vendor              CR    112
                             GR/IR                 Dr    100
                             Stock                 DR     12 ( add 100% which is incorrect )
This is incorrect .

Moving average price calculation logic of material with Price Control "S"

Dear Gurus,
As you know that there is a Moving price and standard price icon in the material master.
I want to understand the calculation logic of the moving average price of the materials having price control "S"
How the system calculates the MAP for standard price materials? The receipt from the process order I suppose is valuated at the process order cost after settlement, but if the issue has hapened for the material does the system recalculate the issue price also?
Below is the sample process order receipt and issue scenario:
Receipt from process order 161000000223
300 kg and GR at standard cost value is Rs 5892
Issue to process order 162000000294
250 kg and GI at standard cost value is Rs 4910.
Thus the balance at period end is 50 kg and balance at standard cost value is Rs 982.
Here in process order 161000000223 the actual cost is 10 Rs. Then how will the system calculate the MAP?
Thanking You,
Amit Dhanurdhari

Hi
Try the following calculations,
One of them will work depending upon your version and support pack
Expected MAP calculation ( As with price control V)
= ((Qty before transaction*MAP + Transaction Qty * transaction
Price)) / quantity after transaction
New Method ( when price control is S)
= Old MAP + (Price Variance w.r.t Standard Price/Qty after transaction)
Also go through the following notes,
Note 1225167
1253944
518485 FAQ: Valuation of goods movements
212286 Overview note: Valuation during goods movements
209864 Moving average price is disproportionately large
202166 Collective note: Statistical moving average price
185961 Moving Average Price Calculation
I have done extensive research on this, let me know if you need to know something specific.

Change of price control in material master

Hi, SAP experts,
We have business scenario where the procurement type in MRP-2 view of material master gets changed from F to E that is an externally procured item will be manufactured inhouse.
In such case in costing view the price control needs to be changed from V to S. If both MAP & std. price are not identical, system is not allowing to change. Secondly since the item will be manufactured inhouse from now onwards, I have to run the cost estimate & update the master.
How do I deal with the situation.
Valuable advice is awaited.
Regds
T.S.Shankar

Hi Shankar,
When the price control indicator is "V", system will allow changing the Standard price manually through Transaction code MM02.
Similarly when the price control indicator is "M", system will allow changing the Moving average price manually through Transaction code MM02.
Hope this clarifies
Regards,
Som

Settling production variances when the price control of the material is "V

Hi,
Scenario: 1) Materials are maintained at moving average price.
                2) Production variances need to settle to material and MAP need to be adjusted.
Issue: When the closing stock of the material is less than the negative variance need to be settled from the production order   the system is giving the message "Moving average price for material is negative"
Questions: 1) What is the solution for settlement of negative variance to material when there is no stock?
                   2) Is there is any way to settle these variances to price difference account only when the stock is not available. if stock is available the variance has to adjust the stock, if not settle to the price difference account. Is there anys standard settling for this?
Advance thanks for your help
Regards
Koteswararao Padarti

Hi Rao
You should never have Price Control V for In House made material...
That will ruin your inventory valuation forever.. Consider the eg below if your price control is V
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and at period end if Qty is lying in stock, 10 variance will also be inventorized
BUT, now consider this
1. 1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
3. You Mfr on Jan 10 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
4. On jan 15, you consume Qty 1 and qty lying in stock is 1
5. In period end, when you do settlement, following will happen
a. For prod order 1: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
Mvg Avg price will shoot upto 110
b. For prod order 2: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
Mvg Avg price (MAP) will shoot upto 120
System wont check whether the qty lying in stock pertains to prod order 1 or 2... It will simply check if the Qty of prod order matches with qty lying in stock. hence, it will keep on inventorizing variance in this case.... and your MAP will touch the sky
Regards
Ajay M

Change of price control from "s" to "v" in the material master

Dear All,
Due to business requirement, we would like to change the price control for FERT items in the material master from "S-Standard Cost" to "V-Moving Average Price". This change we would like to do only at sales plants (Non-Manufacturing Locations). Very few materilas are having the stock on the date of the price control change
I would like to know is there any SAP Note / Any of you are having such experience? Please arrange the same.
Regards
Anilkumar

Hi,
i am not sure about any program but through MR21 you can change tthe Price in material master.
If stock is available system will hit to closing stock of the material for price change in case stock is not available it will hit price difference gl account.
Regards,
Sankar

FREIGHT COST TO BE ADDED TO MATERIAL VALUE FOR PRICE CONTROL"S"

hi,
How to add the frieght cost to material cost for the materials with "S" price control While doing MIGO ?
Edited by: ARITRA MUKHERJEE on Mar 3, 2010 5:07 PM

Hi
By stating Price control Indicator S ,it means that you are valuating your inventory at a standard or Fixed price (As maintainred in the Material master ).Hence your Inventory will be valuated at the standard price no matter what additional expenses you incur
Regards
Sandeep

*How to change the Valuation Category & Price control in material master*

Hello SAP Gurus,
I have a requirement to change the valuation category from 'X' to ' ' in accounting view of material master.
-> I have cancelled all the open PO's & SO's for the material
-> I have ensured that there is no stock for the material in that valuation area.
But still I get an error message that batch already exists for the material. When I check entries in MCHB I find that there are previous entires in MCHB with zero stock.
I have gone through the SAP note 155874 which recomends the archiving the effected objects.
Please let me know is there any work around to change the valuation category from 'X' to ' ' & price control 'V' to 'S'. I also need to change from ' ' to 'X' for a few materials.
Thanks for your advise.
Best Regards,
Narayan.

Note 155874 cleary describes what has to be done to be able to change.
There is no workaround, and if you change anything in the tables directly, then this will cause inconsitencies, as described in this note as well.

Can we release the standard price for a material whose Price control is "V"

Hi experts,
Could you please clarify my doubt that can we release the standard cost of a material whose price control is "V".
Our user is trying to release the std price. But its not getting released. If the material is of ML relevant I could have checked in CKM3 for any actual data existancy. I am aware that if any actual data existing the price could not be released.
But here this material belongs to a Non Material ledger relevant plant. So I cheked the stock overview and for any material documents if any. But this material has no stock.
I m confused how to check the material's transactions with FI entries.
Please help in this regard.
Thanks,
Sarat.

HI Sarat
1. You can release a std cost for material with V, but that wont serve any purpose.. The inventory valuation will happen at V alone
Either the material should have a BOM or Routing to release the std cost and MRP view shall have Proc Type as E / X
OR
You can have special proc in costing view as 20 and then execute CK11N for the material....
Some price must be there in material master which will get released as std cost (based on your valuation variant)
2. You can check material transaction using MB51
Regards
Ajay M

Cost Run should not be getting executed on Material with Price Control V

Raw & Packing materials are with price control V in MM as company wants to keep them on moving average cost. Somehow finance users executed cost run on one such material and cost run was executed and the difference was posted in price difference. As far as I know, system shouldn't be allowing cost run on materials other than those having S as price control.
Question is: How to ensure system sends error if cost run is attempted to be executed on materials with Price Control V?

Hi
If you are executing cost run using CK40N, it releases the cost for all the materials i.e. both for the header and the components
the components may be usually valuated at V. So, the std price update for these will be only for information purposes and it wont revaluate your inventory for sure... This cant post to price difference.... Price diff upon std cost release will apply only to those materials which have price control S
However, if you dont want to release the cost for V items, you can specify them in the exclusion list... In Ck40N selection parameters you specify your plant/material, etc... While specifying the materials to be costed in the multiple selection screen, , you can also specify the ones not to be. Then std cost wont be released in those cases
Regards
Ajay M

Posting Taxes to Material cost - When price control is S - Standard Price

Hi Experts,
i have a material which is maintained with price control S. the material is having an info record with tax code I1 (5%), conditon type JP3E. when i am doing GR and IR, the tax amount is getting posted to a different G/L account. But not adding to material cost. Is it possible to add this tax amount to material cost, when price control is S.
Thanks & Regards,
Ravi

Hi Poorna,
Check transaction event key,
if it is std key 'NVV' it shold post to material cost.
or check in OBCN ur transaction key showing posting indicatpor '3' Distribute to relevant expense/revenue items.
Hope this will solve your problem.
Thanks and regards
Gitesh

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