Transfer of keyword tags

I have just downloaded Elements 12 using my previous version catalogue of images in Elements 9 however the keyword tags have not come across. How do I transfer them?

prince of cliftomville wrote:
Thanks for your help. Where do I find Michael B’s info from the help Tab. Yes I have upgraded from Elements 9 to 12.
Prince of cliftonville
Here is the link to how to use workspaces.
http://helpx.adobe.com/elements-organizer/using/workspaces.html
You can also download the pdf manual, which makes searching by keywords much easier:
http://helpx.adobe.com/en/pdf/elements-organizer_reference.pdf
Many new ways to work in Organizer since version 11.
- Introduction of the new tabs for people, places and events
- Totally new way to work in folder view
- More advanced 'search by detail'
I think there is a video tut for the new interface... Hope I can find it soon!

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Yes, that's the right way. See if anything here helps any:
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/common-catalog-issues-upgrade-elements.html

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I am new to LR3. I would like to import all my photos into LR3 and all these photos have keyword tags that were done in PSE. Will LR3 automatically import the keyword tags too? If not, how would I do it?
Much appreciate your feedback.

The answer is "NO", because importing is the WRONG thing to do here.
The proper procedure is to have LR3 upgrade your PSE catalog. In Lightroom, File->Upgrade PSE Catalog. All your tags will show up in Lightroom as keywords. Couldn't be simpler!
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/WS217DEA0F-2A78-4445-89CB-4CED1AFA450E.htm l

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I have a seperate PC PSE8 organizer that I would like export just the keyword tags file to my new Mac PSE10 to use with a seperate new database. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance.

A better way to do this would be to install PSE 10 on your windows computer (if you have the boxed version you have both platforms) and update your catalog to PSE 10, then do a full backup using the organizer's backup command to a removable drive, then restore the catalog to the mac.
EDIT That's unless you just want a list of keyword tags to save time when working with a whole different set of images. But transferring a catalog will also preserve albums, version sets, etc.

Where did my keyword tags go?

How can I retrieve the keyword tags that did not transfer from my old computer to my new one? They people are listed under "People" but the categoriy and sub-catagories are not listed in the right keyword sidebar.

Neale, sorry, I didn't tell you I have PSE 11. I have a complete
catalog backup of PSE 11 on an external drive. I had a technician do
the transfer of everything from my old computer to the new; the old one
is gone. All the tags came over into the right sidebar except People. I
had created subcategories "Family" and "Friends" under "People." Under
People in the top menu line (Media, People, Places, Events) the people
are all listed, with their tags, including People -- no Family, no
Friends -- so I know they are still tagged, just would like to have the
People listing in the right sidebar like everything else.
Would I have any luck restoring the entire catalog from the backup off
the old computer and ending up with all the tags (for 13,000+ photos)
showing up in the sidebar? Would I lose the 37 photos and 3 videos
taken since the date of the backup?
I'm not very knowledgeable about Photoshop. But since People is one of
its built-in tags, like Places and Events, I don't know how I lost it.
Thanks so much for your response and any additional help you can give.
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I have PSE11 on both main PC and laptop. The PC is the main computer and has all of our keyword tags. The laptop is used to maniuplate images when we can't access the main PC and then transfer them to the PC later. As we wish to tag photos on the laptop before we transfer them is there a way of duplicating the keyword tags on both computers without having to re-enter them individually? I recall that in previous versions of PSE we could save tags to file, but I can't see how to do this in PSE11. Many thanks.

You can now do this in the metadata panel in PSE 11. If you select a thumbnail in Organizer and click the three small dots it will bring up a dialog for the metadata fields. To add information to many photos all at once, select all the thumbnails, click the information tab and then click the button marked Add IPTC information. You can then choose to append new information to all of the selected items or to overwrite.

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I imported 30,000 pictures into an upgraded version of Photoshop Elements 12 on a new lap top. All my keyword tags imported, but they all ended up under Keywords Section in a subfolder called Imported Keyword Tags. In the old version I could slide the tags from one category to another. I can't in the new version. How can I do this?

First, the best way to move to another computer and upgrade at the same time is to use the backup / restore process:
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.html
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- It creates a backup : (you would have to create one anyway for such a big move)
- It flexibly copies your media files while keeping the folder tree even if you are changing OS version (You would have to do the copy anyway)
- it automatically converts the catalog format to the new PSE version if needed
- it lets you choose a 'custom' destination (drive or master folder)
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Secondly, if for some reason you decide to copy your folder tree externally on the new computer and re-import on a new empty catalog, you should:
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Third, you can move your tags between categories just like in older versions...
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Transfetring keyword tags

I feel certain that there is a simple answer and have read some comments within this forum regarding. But I want to make absolutely sure I do the right thing before attempting this transfer.
Essentially, I am just about to upgrade my white iMac to the brand new aluminium iMac. I have Lightroom v1.1 installed currently and my catalogue is on an EXTERNAL firewire drive.
when I install Lightroom on the new iMac I realise I can just "re-import" all the photos pointing to their current location on the external drive, and they will appear in the new Lightroom on the new iMac.
However... I have 4000 photos all with a number of heirarchcal keyword tags. What is the best way to ensure that these tags will also copy over to the new Lightroom install... ensuring that the photos still have the keyword tags attached to them? I really would like to avoid typing them in again.
What would be the best workflow here to ensure that I end up with a replication of my existing Lightroom.
Many thanks.

You say the "catalogue" is on an external drive. Do you mean just the image files or do you really mean the LR database (the catalogue). If everything is on the external drive, then you have no problems. Just install LR on the new iMac, then in Finder double click the catalog file. That opens the your LR files just as they were before.
If the LR database is on your local drive, why not copy the whole folder and subfolders to the external drive. Then you can proceed as I've outlined above.
I keep both my image files and the database on an external drive. If you prefer keeping the database locally, then just copy the database folders to the new iMac.

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Hi,
Thanks for your response. I did restore to new location, drive J, and chose "maintain folder structure". So, the catalog and a complete set of my photos was copied to the new external drive J. However, the catalog is still linked to the original set of my photos that are still on drive M. Any ideas?
JRD

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I use LR 2.7. I want to copy one file from one drive to another drive with the same file name. I thought you could drag the file, but it doesn't copy over the file in the other drive, can you explain what I have to do?
Also, I tried to import the folder into another drive, but it doesn't copy the keyword tags. Is there a way to do this?
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Barb

Hey Barb,
Well, if you use the Year/Month/Day/pictures_here format, none of the folders contains a massive amount of folders. It's not the number of folders that generates problems, it's having them all in _one_ folder that creates slow-down issues. Imagine if you had a deck of cards; look for one card... you have to go through all 52 cards to find it. But, if you broke it down into the 4 groups, you only have to go through 13, which is lots faster. Now imagine going through 15000 instead of 52...
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Ciao!
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A design misfeature: After you select and apply a tag with the text box, it loses the keyboard focus. So to select another tag for the same photo, you have to move your hand to the mouse and click in the text box again. Partially defeats the whole purpose.
Recipe for reproducing the bug:
1. Create a new catalog.
2. Import 50 photos.
3. Select the next photo.
4. In the keyword tag text box, type "p" and then enter.
5. Go to step 3.
On the 40th or 41st photo, my PSE 8 reliably crashes (Vista 32, 4 GB of memory).   If after step 1 you use the Keyword Tags > + > From File command to load a tag heirarchy of 210 tags (see the attached file), it will crash after just 9 photos.   And with 426 tags, it crashes after 5 photos.
Interestingly, on my Vista 64 system (unsupported by Adobe, 8 core x 2.7 GHz), PSE 8 doesn't crash, but the text box gets unusably slow very quickly. WIth 210 keyword tags in the catalog, it soon takes about 12 seconds to find a tag after you type a unique prefix.   That time gradually gets longer the more you use the text box. With 426 tags, it takes almost 20 seconds to apply a tag using the text box.
On both systems, it's clear what the nature of the bug is: Each time you use the text box, the process's memory grows by many megabytes. I believe my Vista 64 system doesn't crash (at least not immediately) because it provides 3.5 GB of memory for use by PSE 8, while Vista 32 only provides about 1.5 GB.
I'm getting a sinking feelilng...

Is the white triangle to the left of "Keyword Tags" pointing down or pointing to the right? See this screen shot:
Click on the white triangle -- does that make a difference?
If not, try deleting the Organizer's preferences:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#Delete_the_Organizers_prefe rences

Keyword Tags Won't Delete

I am using Lightroom 1.4.1 on a Vista platform. When I delete keyword tags they disappear temporarily, only to reappear later. I have tried the Purge Unused Keywords function and I have tried to right click the keyword and select Delete. In all cases they seem to be deleted, but reappear later. I have removed the keywords in question from any photos they were applied to, so all the keywords that I'm trying to delete show 0 images. Here is a sample of the keywords: <component; <place; <worklist. Could the "<" sign in the keyword name be the problem? I have tried to rename the keywords, thus removing the "<" from the name, but they still keep coming back. Some more info which may be important in resolving this. These keyword names appear to have been created by Lightroom itself of Photoshop CS3 (V10.0). I originally had keywords enclosed in brackets, eg <place>. When I edited the images with the Develop module and Photoshop, once I returned to the Library module the edited image would have the system created keyword, eg <place (without the closing bracket). In other words I now had two keywords for the same thing: <place> and <place.

Tried the throw away top level key word idea as you suggested, but it didn't resolve the problem. I also deleted the 'dud' keywords from Bridge and Windows Photo Gallery and then went back to Lr and tried the suggestion again. It still didn't work. There are 3 dud keywords that keep reappearing in Windows Photo Gallery, despite having been deleted. It's amazing how all but three seem to have gone for good from Windows Photo Gallery. What makes the three persistent ones special, I have no idea.
What's puzzling is that once I've deleted the dud keywords and then export my keywords to a text file, the text file is 'clean'; like they've gone from Lr. However, when they reappear and I export my keywords again to a text file, they show up in the text file.
It like they're hiding away in the image files or some database in such a way that I can't access them and when I edit or rename a 'good' keyword it causes Lr to re-read the image file or database and import the keywords. This, despite that fact that none of the dud keywords show up in the metadata for any of my images as displayed by Lr; eg in the Keywording panel on the right. They also no longer show up in Bridge or Windows Photo Gallery (except for 3). Furthermore, all the dud keywords show '0' for the number of images they're assigned to.
By the way, I've also tried the Purge Unused Keywords function to no avail.

A question about keyword tags

Is it possible in settings... or somewhere, to set it so that when you open (PrE9's) organizer instead of starting with keyword hierarchy list - it could open on keyword cloud view? I am not so keen on the hierrarchy method...
Thanks.
brush

I did some experimenting in the Elements 9 Organizer.
1-- yes, when you close the Organizer then it does always seem to come up next time with the Thumbnail grid AND the Tags panel on the right is set to Hierarchy view. Then you must click on the icon for Cloud view.
2-- my conclusion is that if I click on the Cloud icon after starting the Organizer, then it was staying as Cloud in the Keyword Tags panel to the right of the Thumbnails for the duration that the Organizer is open.
3-- Note that if you use Full Screen for viewing your photos, then for the "Quick Organize" panel that drags out from the left side of the screen near the bottom, the default for Keyword Tags is Cloud. This is a different method of working which you may or may not like: however since it does set Cloud I decided to mention it.
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Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file. Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop. Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop.

Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file. Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop. Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop. How do I import prev Keyword Tags from file and Restore catalog from port. HD to new PC and in what order? I have not opened PSE 13 on new PC yet. Would like to do it right the first time!

No importing needed.
See these instructions: Use Backup, Restore to move catalog | Organizer | Elements 6 or later

Use of Keyword tags in shared photo files

Let's suppose, first off, that I have assigned person keyword tags to most of the photos in my catalog. Let us also suppose that I have explicitly written those tags to the photo files. Now, I would like to be able to share both the files and the keyword tags with family and friends so that they too can easily access files taken in a specific location or including a specific person. Short of buying a copy of PSE 9 for each (an act of generosity I can not afford), how do I share the information about these photos in a way that is accessible to someone not dedicated to, say, writing XSL code or something equally elaborately mind boggling?
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OK, I'm a certified idot! I found the tag button, and all of the tags are there, Admittedly without spaces, but they work nicely.
Again, Thanks

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