Two dead K7N2 Delta-ilsr's..

Greetings...
I seem to have the same probles with this board a LOT of others do...
EXCEPT for the fact eventually the board dies(?)
Just winks out...power goes off...restart evokes a one second blink of power,
then the power switch does nothing...unplug...plug in, hit the power, BLINK, dead...repeat...same results...
reset cmos...remove cmos battery...restart?
BLINK...nothing.
strip board of everything one piece at a time down to mobo vid card cpu memory heatsink/fan...reassemble one piece at a time...
same result.
help.
(Tried other vid cards...checked all pins and connections everywhere...everything works fine in other machines)
Ski
antec true 500 (ok other machine voltages good)
3200xp (ok other machine)
k7n2delta-ilsr (second one, lasted a couplea days longer than the first)
thermalright slk-900/92m vantec tornado (temps good)
2x512 kingmax pc3500 sveral different timings and voltages (single channel, tests OK in other machine)

Tried it outa the case...its outa the case right now.
first board died after a day, second died after 4 days.
ALMOST had everything loaded on the second,
ran 3dmark2001se several times to check temps and performance
and was satisfied...checking my e-mail, BLINK...like the power went out, just like the first one...arrgh. Best 3dmark score was 15,241, BTW...
NO apparent physical damage...if I pull the power cord and stick it back in, I can get it to BLINK once, fans and drives power up for a second.
pulled the vid card and stuck it in this lil KM2M combo,
gonna put the gig of DDR in here too while I'm waiting for a new board...
RMA tomorrow, only I DON'T want to waste any more time
on what amounts to only the SECOND problem of a couplea dozen or so boards I've installed in the last 7 years...last bad board was a shuttle socket 7, BTW...
2 in a row, me and the K7N2 Delta are finished.
Still like to know if anybody else can come up with possible answers,
might help somebody else...LOL!

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MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Dead? Help!

Hey all,
Well, the other day I was on my computer playing a game when my mobo fan started making an odd noise (as if switching rpm), so I took off the side of my case and took a look inside. Everything seemed to be functioning properly, then I switched my cpu fan speed via the pci slot speed control. As I switched from High-Medium-Low, I noticed that the fan actually slowed to the point where I could see the blades spinning, at least for a second or so. I found that rather odd, seeing as how I've never seen a fan (especially a cpu fan) slow to the point that I could see the blades spin. Anyway, a couple of hours later, I shut down and went to sleep.
The next day I had my comp on for about maybe 30mins to an hour or so when suddenly I heard an alarm from the computer speaker, so I was like, ":censored:?" since I had never heard it before. It was evidently the temperature warning, which I had set to 70C. So I shut down within 15 seconds and opened up the side of my case.
I noticed that the cpu fan wasn't moving at all (usually I'd open the case in time to see the spin-down). So I turned the computer back on and the fan didn't budge, so I immediately powered down, assuming that the CPU Fan had died. Later on, I hooked the fan itself up to a free power cord in my sister's computer and booted up, along with the speed controller, flipping from medium to high to low without any problems.
I then did screwed the fan back to the heatsink in my comp and booted up. I went into the bios an noticed that the rpm was 8k, which is way too high for my fan (normally 5k). So i began switching from high, medium, to low once again, then I saw that the rpm reader in the bios went to 0. So I looked back in the side of my case and saw that the cpu fan was once again dead. At this point I concluded that it was the fan and was about to order the Volcano 12.
A day later I placed the fan inside my sister's computer on a free cord, yet again, and yet again, it worked fine.
I once again put it in my computer to test and this time it worked fine, even while switching between speeds. Unfortunately, I then noticed that the mobo fan was not moving, then began to move.
Well, I'm guessing now that it's simply the motherboard that has a short, since both the motherboard fan as well as the cpu fan have randomly been dying the past few days. The motherboard fan; however, has switched rpm many times in the past from 5k to 3k.
It could also be a PSU problem, but I have Antec 400watt psu and it's been working fine for the past 2 years, so I doubt it. I've had the motherboard for a little over a year. I upgraded my cpu from 2200+ to 3000+ in July. That's also when I bought the cpu fan. The motherboard fan began fluctuating in rpm noticeably back in April or May of this year.
Yesterday, I used the computer again and had it on for about 2 hours or so and I had speedfan monitoring the temps and the rpm. The temps stayed relatively stable: 48 cpu, 44 mobo.
But alas, the RPMs were totally [blame me for the swear filter] up. At one point, both the mobo and cpu fan speeds were reading 0, even though both continued to spin within the case and the temps remained the same. Then after 30mins or so, they cpu fan began reading again at 40,000-42,000rpm, which is obviously incorrect, seeing as the fan is rated for around 5k. I got/get the same readings in the bios, both fans reading at 0rpm as they continue to physically spin.
Also, during a number of times that I've started up the comp within the past few days, the motherboard northbridge fan wasn't spinning at all and didn't begin to until a few minutes into my windows session.
Also, I took out the NB fan and noticed a slight crack in the back of it.
I was considering simply just buying the Volcano 12 and the MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum rather than RMAing the mobo. Then perhaps an Antec 550W psu, if necessary.
Any ideas what I should replace and in which order? And has anybody else encountered any similar problems with this mobo (at least with the mobo rpm, which has been a prob for about 6months on and off)?
I bought the mobo along with a 2200+ in July of 2003. I upgraded the ram from 256 to 512 in April 2004 (which is around the time I started hearing rpm probs with the mobo fan) and I upgraded the cpu in July of 2004
Many Thanks!
My Specs are as follows:
Windows XP Professional SP1
Antec SX1040B2 File Server Case
400watt Antec PSU
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (2.17GHz)
Thermaltake TR2 M2 HSF
Kingston 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
Generic 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro
Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Platinum
Pioneer 10x DVD Drive
Sony 8x Double Layer DVD-+RW
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
nForce Ethernet Adapter w/Cable line
Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard
19" Envision Monitor EN985e
Logitech Z-680 5.1 Speakers

Could be a fluctuating PSU that's breaking down power to the MB. You have a whole lot of components dragging that PSU down. With what you have in your rig I would run either an Antec or Enermax 550W. Best way to be sure is to borrow a PSU or buy one from a store with a good return policy so that you can return it if indeed it turns out to be the MB. If I don't have your board here on my bench to test the only thing I can suggest to you is to swap out components unfortunately.

HELP me with my K7N2 delta ilsr

Can anyone help me with this problem. I have just upgraded to MSI's K7N2 delta ilsr motherboard. Its all working quite well apart from the fact that the pc wont start up from cold....at all.
When I start the pc from an off state, it runs up the fans and drives, but does not post.
The diagnostic led pannel on the back of the pc shows that the cpu is faulty or not installed correctly.
If I then press the reset button, the pc posts, and boots up just fine.
It does this EVERY time I start up.
I have tried re installing the cpu, which is an XP 2800+ 333 barton, but to no avail.
I have asked a few questions on other forums, but I cant solve it.
These are the suggestions so far.
1. the psu (I have a Tsunami 400 atx psu) could not be giving out enough power on initial startup, but once the pc is running, it has enough to boot the pc from a reset.
2. The mobo or the bios could be at fault. I have not flashed the bios, or upgraded it in any way from original, so is there an issue with the original bios on these boards, and 2800 barton chips??? Could it be a mobo fault? The pc runs fine once the machine is booted.? how do I test it?
3. The cpu could be faulty? but would this not stop it running fuull stop?
4. my ram. I have a single stick of OCZ 512mb pc3200 ddr, which I was told would make the pc fly. Not shure on that statement, but is this ram compatible?? could this be the problem?
Im fairly new to the upgrade side of things, and I need some help with this one.
Also, Id be really greatfull if some one could talk me through flashing my bios to the latest version, as the thought of doing this narks me a bit...I dont want to mess it up and get a dead pc...
HELP

+3.3v 14A
+5v 28A
+12v 16A
+5vsb 2A
-5v 0.5A
-12v 0.8A
Hope this helps, as my pc seems to be living with its case off a lot these days..haha

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Memory problems

I'm trying to burn in a system in a 50 deg C (122 deg F) room for a minimum of 12 hours. The main system components are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Memory: 2x512 OCZ PC3200 EL
My problem is that the burn-in software continues to freeze up during the memory test. I've already contacted the software manufacturers and the software is stable. It's a problem with the way the motherboard handles the memory. I've tried putting the memory in dual channel configuration and changing the timing settings in the BIOS. The SPD settings are 2.5-3-3-7. Right now I have them at 3-4-3-8. It's a lot more stable than it was under the default settings but it still freezes up sometime after 7 hours. Unfortunately, I wasn't around when it froze so I don't know exactly how long it lasted. I can say that after 7 hours, it wasn't showing any slowdown in performance. If anyone could think of anything else I might be able to do to get the system stable, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU FSB is 200, so it's already matched up there. And we have a ton of fans already. There are two in the front, 4 inside and 1 on the back. It's a custom case, 2u high. The power supply is oversized and more than adequate to provide the required power. I have four of these units running right now. Two with 2x512 sticks and two with 1x1024 sticks. For each combination, the memory clock speed for one is 166 and 200 for the other. I have been loosening up the memory timings trying to get the system stable, but it still isn't. If the power supply is good, and I'm unable to cool the system anymore due to limititions within the case, is there anything you can think of to stabilize the system. Maybe other settings in the BIOS or suggestions on how to go about getting good timings for the memory. Thanks.

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Nforce2 (Socket A) Motherboard (MB-003-MS) Features NF2 chip

I tried to install 3 of the Crucial Ballistix Tracer (1 Gig Each) in this motherboard (MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Nforce2 (Socket A) Motherboard (MB-003-MS) Features NF2 chipset) and it will not run stabilly no matter what I tried. Is this a bios conflict with the memory? If so, are there any new bios updates? I have tried cas settings and voltage settings but nothing works. It will how ever run perfectly with only 2 sticks in single channel mode. It will not run same 2 sticks in dual channel mode. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone know of any new motherboards with maybe NFORCE 4 Chipset that support all 3 sticks of this memory and an AGP graphics card? Im thinking of a new motherboard but I still need to have AGP and SATA.
Barton 3200 core proc.
System has ran fine for a solid year until I tried new memory. Please help!

Quote from: freakytiki4u on 07-November-06, 23:42:33
Ok I tried to use relaxed FSB by -10 and relaxed mem timings but still unstable due to the motherboard trying to use dual channel memory. If you can modify the bios to where it will not have the capability of dual channel memory I truly believe it will work. Will u try this for me? I would greatly appreciate it as I am really not ready to spend all the money on new equipemtn when this suits my needs for now.
sure but as i said before this is gona be experimental and risky. Here we go:
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Experimental MOD E1(Disable Dual CH ability)
Procedure is automated in best possible safest way to BIOS update.
Prepare a blank diskette in a good condition(newest one etc.)
]execute file under XP will make bootdisk with automated BIOS update procedure. when diskette is ready, reboot PC and boot from FDD(floppy), wait a bit, then you will be asked for final confirmation about BIOS update process, press a key to proceed, after BIOS update is complete, ensure that you got successfully output message from flash program. then power down your PC, remove power cord from the PSU, hit power button several time to drain caps electrify, touch with hands some metal for ES discharge, and Clear CMOS.
pull back power cord, power up your PC, when you see CMOS checksum error,(expected msg) hit F1 to continue to re-build DMI pool data, then reboot and enter in BIOS, LOAD BIOS DEFAULT, and SAFE AND EXIT.
NOTE: Ensure your PC is stable before proceed with BIOS update.
NOTE: Use it at own risk, chance of failure is big, cannot guarantee results and safest as provisional mode which can guarantee it will work stable with features. also cannot test it personally before give you. (don't have mobo anymore)
Using it may end with dead mainboard (BIOS chip re-flash will be required, if somethink goes wrong)

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR and Serial ATA Drive

I've got a very strange problem....
Yesterday i have installed my new motherboard (MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR) but i have a problem with the SATA feature.
I've got two drives : one 40GB ATA (Western Digital) and one 160GB SATA also from Western Digital.
My SATA drive is recognized by the FastTrak BIOS (v2) but i'm unable to reinstall Windows XP Professional (with SP2 Slipstreamed) because Windows Setup didn't recognize the SATA disk. I have loaded the Promise Serial ATA Drivers at the begin of the installation (F6)...
I have also tried 2 different versions of the Promise SATA Drivers; the one that cames with my motherboard CD, and the most recent from the MSI website. But with both drivers the same result. How can i get my Serial ATA Harddisk get work with this motherboard?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Computerfreakje.
PS : My specifications are the following:
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (Rev. 7.4)
AMD Athlon XP 2500+
2x 256MB Kingston PC3200 Dual Channel
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb (R360)
Western Digital 40GB ATA
Western Digital 160GB SATA

Thanks for your reply Richard,
My motherboard didn't came with a floppy (I have bought an bulk version..) I have created a SATA floppy by myself. (I have got the drivers from the motherboard cd..) These drivers are also good, right?
Which type of RAID Array should i create? Because i have only one SATA drive.....
I think the "auto" feature is the easiest way?
Thanks.
Computerfreakje.

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (MS 6570) trouble With ATA card

Hi, i have major trubble.
Ihave two 300gb, two 120gb and two 80gb harddrives + 1 DVD burner and 1 CD burner with ultra DMA 100 PCI card and it works fine without using the sata or ide3 raid function. I purchased an new PCI ATA 133 card and the system won't boot. I have tried for an long time to get the raid function to work but wihtout results with my old ATA 100 card (it works when i unplugg the ide cable from ide3).
Is there anybody that knows with type off PCI ATA 133 card that works or how too coop whith this problem.
I've got the latest bios ver. 7.8 but no difference
AMD XP2800+
Kingston 2x512mb
ATI Saphire Radeon 9600pro 256mb
Soundblaster Live Value
XP pro sp2
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (MS 6570)

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No more blue screen and it even works with my memory Kingston Value Ram 2x512 ddr400.
Is it possible to change the FSB from 166 to 200, and what should i think about before action. Like i said before i have an xp2800+
Alltså är det möjligt att få cpu gå på samma frekvens som minnena om man ökar FSB har några tip så är jag tacksam.
Att en nätdel kan göra så mycket helt otroligt TUSEN TACK för hjälpen till och med cpu tempen har sänkts från ca 56 till 46 grader fattar ingenting.

K7N2 Delta ILSR blown?

I have K7N2 Delta-ILSR.
I wanted to use the dolby digital out put of the board and since I didnt have a S-Bracket I decided to hook a wire onto the pin and connect that to a rca cable which goes to my decoder.
I used the board like this with no problems for about 10 months. But then the wire got moved and I think the board got shorted so it shutdown. This happened once before but the pc was fine.. This time the pc wont boot. I checked all the components and everything seems to be working including the power supply. The fans spin for a few seconds then it stops.
Whenever I plug in the power the Nforce 2 MCP-T gets really hot. you can barely touch it. So do you guys think I blew it for good and need a new board?

i have this board and i have done plenty of stupid things with it, it alway's seemed to live on with no problems, except once i cant remeber clearly though.
i did a ridiculus overclock from stable 199 to ~220 @ 1.8, tries to put it in safe mode nothing??, un hooked everthing and put it back together.. nothing, so i left it unplugged and without a battery for about two week, dident want to look at it as i though i f++ked it.
came back to it, put most of it together and it booted no problems in safe mode, dont know what happened but its still living now?

K7N2 Delta ILSR Strange network problems

K7N2 Delta ILSR
2500+ AMD Barton
Radeon 9600 PRO
Windows XP
Hi there,
My network was working fine yesterday but now whenever I plug a cable into the onboard network card, my computer starts having these strange flucuations...Every few seconds the CPU usage jumps from 0% to about 50% which causes the system to freeze for a second, making it a real pain to do anything.
Does anyone have any idea whats causing this?
Thanks,
Shim

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Originally posted by deftonie
The kingston memory I have is on the memory compatibility list.
kingston removed k7n2 from their supported list.
kingston is not on the Good Memory Choices for ALL K7N2 nF2 released boards
for some reason msi have not removed kingston from their supported list.
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Originally posted by pseudemys
So (and I'm addressing the question in particular to Raven): shoud i wait for a some kinda accident, crash, whatever sooner or later? I'm really scared about such things. You know... everything seems ok and then, suddenly, a nasty surprise. Which is the problem with kingston and k7n2 series? Further, I'd like to buy another 512 M stick and honestly it seems more sensible to me to mount two equal sticks. And I feel somewhat stuck...
a memory can be incompatible but still work.
alot of people buy any memory they can and throw in and it may work.
but it can start crashing after installing some program or updating bios or drivers.
thats the reason i posted the memtest program.
worry about a crash....no reason for that as you self said memtest reported no errors prime95 no errors and doom3 worked good.
kingston uses many different chips on their memory and its those chips that is the problem.
one guy found out that on the specific memory he bought kingston used 3 different chips on.
only 1 of them worked good on k7n2.
so a 33% chans of success in getting a good module is considered bad.
so write down the numbers on the chips and take it with you to the store and compare it to the memories they got.

K7N2 Delta ILSR and XP2500+ - strange overclocking problem

Relevant configuration data:
- K7N2 Delta ILSR (with 7.6 BIOS version)
- Barton 2500+ (AQXEA)
- Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound
- GlobalWin CAK 38 (7000 rpm DELTA, all copper)
- 2x512 MB Corsair XMS cmx512 3200c2 (it should run 6-3-3-2 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to older documents, and on 6-3-3-2.5 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to newer documents)
- PSU Enermax EG465P-VE (430W)
- Gigabyte ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
- Battlefield 1942 game
I have 2 seperate problems:
1. When I try to set my proc on 13x166 (Barton XP3000+) BIOS won't recognise that settings and it gives me real-clock rate of 833MHz (and no name, just "Athlon XP"). Just a note, when I set proc to be XP2600 or XP2800, everything is great in BIOS and in real conditions (Windows, Battlefield). I had 7.4 version of BIOS and I tried with new 7.6 version and nothing has changed (as I suspected). Can someone help me about this ?
2. Second problem is a bit more serious.
I'm having problems setting my proc to work with 100% stability on 200MHz FSB speed.
This is what's going on:
- Behaviour in Windows is pretty much good (no random restarts).
- Sometimes (on rare occasions) blues screen appears when I'm in windows or some program. Last time when it appeared it said something about "memory managment". I tried to lower memory settings but nothing seemed to be better.
- If I try to freshly install windows on 200 MHz FSB in 98% of the cases installation will be abrupted (blue screen or resets) or it won't even start to install.
- What's bothering me the most is this: Battlefield 1942 is crashing on regular basis. Sometimes it can hold for 5 minutes, sometimes 20 minutes, sometimes half an hour. But on certain moment, puff, and I'm out in Windows. Not a computer restart, just it throws me on desktop.
I've been checking the temperature on regular basis when I'm playing. It is always low.
I've tried to raise core voltage all the way to 1.8v, but same thing happens.
I've tried to lower memory settings, but I get same BF crashing.
I don't know what else to do or what other component to acuse for instability.
Can somebody please help me ?
Thank you in advance !

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Originally posted by ellswt
On the newer 2500+'s the multiplier is locked, this could be your problem
Nope, because I am changing multiplyers without probs. The only multiplyer that doesn't work is 13x.
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...loosen up your memory timings to add stability, and give it a try again at the 200 mhz fsb without changing the multiplier.
I drove the memory according to the Corsair's specs, and I drove it on lower settings also. No change.
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also you may wish to go up to 2.7 volts for your ram, and 1.7 volts on your processor to add stability, remember sometimes you have to go up gradually a step or two at a time and keep it there for a day or two before you reach your top OC.
I might try upping ram voltage but that doesn't sound good, because it IS DDR 400 memory (an excellent one too !).
It's not like I'm trying to drive it over 200MHz. 200MHz is this memory's normal frequency.
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Newest video driver from ATI may help with the stability on your gaming.
Already have newest drivers.
Anyway, thanks for the tips !

K7N2 Delta ILSR won't boot from FDD or HD

I have a serious problem with my new K7N2 delta ILSR based computer.
My machine is
K7N2 delta ILSR 400W
3.3/25 5/32 12/15 V/A PSU
512+256 MB A-data 3200 ram
Athlon XP2500+
BTC 48x24x48 Combo
100 mb Zip int. -disabled
120 GB Seagate barracuda SATA-disabled
120 GB Seagate Barracuda parallel
Triplex parasouls ATI 9600PRO 128MB
The machine POST's normally with all 4 lights doing what they should.
The Promise BIOS can detect the SATA drive correctly but when an attempt is made to write the array an error- 'error modifying array- system is going to reboot- press any key to reboot>" is given.
The M/B BIOS detects the FDD and Seagate Parallel drives correctly but when a correctly formatted XP boot disc (or Mandrake Linux or Caldera DR-DOS) is placed in the floppy drive a "no system disk" error is given.
When you F6 to install RAID drivers in the Windows XP install and the screen comes up where you are prompted to insert the floppy there is no mass storage device detected.
I purchased a new FDD and it gives precisely the same error as the original.
I installed the parallel Seagate in another system and installed and activated windows XP on it. After re-installing it in the K7N2 system I was disappointed to discover that it will not boot off the hard drive. When you boot from the XP CD the machine locks up. (Disconnecting the HD it will boot normally)
This is a real puzzle as it is possible to format the hard drive using Max Blast3- the maxtor disk utility which is based ( as is the Seagate Seatools utility) on Caldera DR-DOS). And I can't see why it should boot from a CD-ROM and not from any other correctly formatted boot disk.
I suspect a problem in either the (South?) bridge that controls the peripherals or the BIOS. I am at a loss how to re-flash the BIOS with out the use of the floppy drive- unless this can be done from a CD-ROM.
The PSU is not being strained and nForce list both RAM sticks as OK.

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Originally posted by Wonkanoby
is the fd light on all the time,as that means the ide type lead needs flipping 180 degrees in the back of it
is the hard drive ide 80 wire ,blue end in the board
any thing shorting under the board,an extra stand off or the like
The Fd light behaves normally. i.e. lights up when the drive is being accessed.
has anybody else noted that the FDD is B by default- That the cables have a few wires twisted like the wires between the first and second plugs on the old cables?
The IDE 80 wire(counted!) is long end in the board- my plugs are all 3 black. You can't put them in the wrong way becaue of the centre key.
All the stands are plastic except for two brass ones that are in the centre of the board that go to circular mount pads. That is how the case came and I thought it was a design feature.
The thing I find most puzzleing is that i can boot a caldera based system that finds everything including the floppy- and read it- (provided you call it drive B!) yet naything DOS based won't go- I have this feeling that it has a screwed up DOS call that is not looking in the right disk sector for NTldr or whatever to boot. I think this is a bios problem- but I am not sure how to find out when you can't boot from the FDD.
My brother has talked to some tech friends and there word is that this is a weird one- probably a dud board RTS.

Vantec Iceberg / K7N2 Delta-ILSR

Has Anybody replaced the K7N2 Delta-ILSR stock
heatsink and fan with a Vantec Iceberg Ifso
whats it like and did it fit ok ?
I originally got the Vantec just for the fan
to replace the stock one like twistedbrowntucker
and others have done .....
System Fan Replacement (MS-6570)
It's so well made and a hefty piece of copper
that im now considering doing a direct swap to
the Vantec but i dont want the hassle of removing
the motherboard if im going to have problems
Thanks
Toolz

Well i finally got my backside in gear and fitted it
The sprung posts on the stock heatsink fly when
you release them,I lost and found one 4 feet
away from the case ...
It's silent so no more lifting the cover every few
weeks to shut it up with a drop of oil like the
stock fan i hope..
I was a little disappointed at the Vantec fan only
being two wires without a fan speed sensor but
the quality of build and the silence make up for
it ........
Toolz

2 Queries on K7N2 Delta-ILSR

Hi,
1) I just bought a pair of K7N2 Delta-ILSR mobo's for two new pc's. Each box has in it an item that isn't mentioned in the book, on the box, or at the website. It's for a rear slot, and it has two ports on it. One looks like an RCA jack, the other is five hole round (looks similar to a mouse port). There's a black cable with a rectangular five hole connector on the end.
Anyone know ehat it is?
2) I feel stupid even asking this. There's an nforce2 chip on the board, which I'm told is equivalent to a geforce 3 card. Where does a monitor get plugged in to?
Thanks!!!!
Paul

I believe its a TV out that was included by mistake, there is an answer in a FAQ I read tonight on the MSI site. There is no GeForce on the K7N2 Delta-ILSR, you need the "G" version for that.
As I just got my Delta tonight I will ask a couple of questions here Im unsure about instead of making a new thread up.
First Im using my XP2400 266mhz until I can afford a new CPU but Im using some 333mhz Ram, will this be ok and whats the best settings will I have to run the ram at 266 or can I run it at 333mhz? BTW I have used the 333 in my 420 ok with the xp2400 but with this Delta accepting a higher memory type Im unsure how it will pick it up in any settings.
Also I notice an extra 4pin CPU ATX power connecter, do I have to use this as well as the normal ATX connector?
Finally, is the covered Bluetooth port just a bog standard USB connecter?
thanks for any answers
waveydavey
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Help! amd xp3000+ barton temp's.... k7n2 delta ilsr

Hi all, (sorry for the lengthy post)
Ive recently built a new system based on the K7N2 DELTA ILSR, great mobo, however my cpu temps are extremely high! on idle 48C and on load nearly 60C. the mobo temp hits approx 40c on load and 34 on idle.
I had an issue with cooling as the cpu heat diode would freeze my pc as it was hitting temps of 58c on idle. i was using the coolermaster aero 7+.... no good at all!!!!! even when on full rpm. Now im using a vantec 80mm fan on a Thermalright SLK-800A. much improved, however still extremely hot.
after reading this review (section headed: Heat Dissipation: Thermal Conditions and S2K Bus Disconnect) :
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlonxp-3000.html
......on "S2k bus disconnect" created by AMD for the barton range.
As the article states, it reduces Cpu temps ALOT!! but im not too sure ion how to activate it or even if my MSI motherboard supports it....
Can anyone shed some light???
system:
Radeon 9800
1GB 3200 Ram
xp 3000+ Barton
Sound Audigy 2
Thanks, Sav

Sorry about the long reply!!! the first thing i would like to say is why does this happen at 58C even with the bios temp settings diabled??? pehapes MSI could Answer this?
I have spent countless hours trying to fix this problem and a lot of £££. A bit of background to me I am a design engineer and i like my PC to work well. I have the following main components
xp3200+ based system (Max die 85C)
with dual 512ddr sticks running at 400mhz
Matrox Parphilia
10K SATA hard disk
7,200 133ATA hard drive
Plus motherboard Nvidia chipset
these all kick out a lot of heat the (CPU contributing 76.8w).
first i started out with a very cheap case and standard amd heatsink. I found after about 5 minutes my pc kept crashing i automatically thought that it was probably the case temperature so monitored this found every time cpu reached 58C it crashed on the dot. The only conclusion i can draw from this that this MB has some thermal protection that can not be switched off but i am guessing perhapes MSI would like to answer this.
I quickly decided as an engineer that the best thing would be to go and buy a aluminuim case with lots of case fans (Basically a big heatsink itself). After a lot of searching i settled for a Coolermaster ATC110. It has four case fans all run at full speed all the time. Now this stoped the crashing problem it only now crashes if i put it under continous loading. Then i went out and bought a new cpu heatsink to replace the amd standard one. This had a minor effect on cpu temp but again under high loads the system crashed at 58C. Obvoiusly as an engineer i satred to think that the amount of noise the system with all its fans going at max is like being put in a wind tunnel.
I then turned to looking at the thermal diserpation requiremnts of all the bits in my system. I worked out that i need to disserpate 281Wmax of heat with my current setup. The kind of heat a small electric fire produces!!!. I begun to wounder if i could shift enough air through the two exhaust fans at the rooms ambient temp to do this. After some calculations I found that my case exhaust case fans are only just surfficent to disspate this amount. Which could explain this the crashing. because the higher the case temp the lower the capability of the heatsinks to conduct heat away from the item.
In the end i gave up with active cooling methods (heatsinks and fans) and realised my only option was to go for external cooling. I now have the system setup with a koolance exos cooling both hardisks graphics card cpu and MBchipset. I know this is very extreme but the case fan noise got to me now i have disconected all case fans except for the ones in my thermaltake power supply which are virtually silent. After about 12 evenings of testing and installation I now have a system which is not only stable but the CPU temp is only 32C.
Obvoiusly getting the heat out of the case is a good idea. The Exos is only running at it's lowest setting which means the fans arnt making any noticable noise.
MOST IMPORTANTLY IT DOES NOT CRASH ANY MORE. AND THERE IS THE PSSIBILTY OF OVERCLOCKING.
The question still remains though why 58C?

Dont find any connection for PFC on K7N2 Delta ILSR

Hi !
Just bought a MSI Motherboard K7N2 Delta ILSR
Looking for the connector pin for my PFC ( Power fan Control)
I can only find two fanconnectors on the board
CPU and System
SORRY if this question has been asked before
searched the Forum but did not find anything

I just installed this same board. I only found 2 also, so I suppose that is all there is. If you are trying to set the system up so you can monitor the power supply temps and fan, here is what I did.
The chipset fan is a 12V fan, so unplug it from the motherboard and power it by using an adapter so you can run it off one of the Molex leads. I do not know if they make these because I fabricated the wiring myself. You will not be able to monitor the chipset temps though.
To fab the connector, I just used the wiring from an old system fan and soldered two small pins (about one-quarter of an inch long), covered each lead with heat shrink and plugged them in via a standard Molex connector. Make sure that you do not leave any of the pin exposed, ie: (the heat shrink should push up to the plastic of the chipset fan connector).. I finished it by covering the new connector with heat shrink to make sure it didnot come apart.
Now you can use the northbridge fan control for the pfc. This has worked good for me, and was $30 cheaper than a fan controller unit

Two dead K7N2 Delta-ilsr's..

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