U330 no audio digital output (SPDIF)

Hi !
I own an U330 and I want to use the optical output for digital audio (SPDIF w/ mini toslink).
But, no matter the setting I choose, It doesn't work I have no red light.
When I choose the digital output in the Realtek software, nothing happens even if I plug a mini toslink jack and play music...
In fact , when I plug it, the U330 detects that a jack has been insered, and in the realtek software, the icon of the analogic output becomes active.
I've already installed Realtek last driver...
Has someone experienced this problem ? Do you have the red light in the jack socket ?
Thanks

take a look at this thread, it may help.

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    Digital Connections, SPDIF and Dolby Digital (german revision)
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    03-08-2007 01:52 AM
    Digital Connections, SPDIF and Dolby Digital Info
    Übersetzung + Erweiterungen + Revision 03-08-07
    Der Digitale Anschluß
    Ich habe beobachtet, daß viele Leute Fragen zu den Sound-Anschlüssen haben, daher trage ich hier einige Infos zusammen und erkläre die Unterschiede in der Verwendung der digitalen und analogen Anschlüsse.
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    Im Prinzip erzielen beide Anschlüsse genau das gleiche Audio-Ergebnis.
    Der primäre Unterschied ist das Medium ( das Material ) durch das das Signal übertragen wird. ( Glasfaser oder Kupfer )
    !! Update !!
    Ein wichtiger Aspekt in der Auswahl von digital-optischen Anschlüssen erklärt sich durch das Vermeiden einer sogenannten „Brummschleife“, d.h. eine elektrisch leitende Verbindung zweier Geräte muß vermieden werden.
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    In der Elektrotechnik ( Niedervolttechnik ) wird oft der „Negative“ Pol der Spannungsversorgung über das elektrisch leitende Gehäuse ( die sogenannte Masse )geführt. Das spart einerseits einen weiteren Kabelweg ( also Kupfer ) ein und ergibt eine mehr oder weniger wirksame (Ab-) Schirmung. Diese Schirmung soll die elektronische Schaltung vor elektromagnetischen, hochfrequenten und niederfrequenten Störeinflüssen je nach Ausführung der Schirmung schützen.
    Üblicherweise besitzt jedes elektronische Gerät eine eigene Spannungsversorgung. Netzteile in elektronischen Geräten unterscheiden sich in der Art der Spannungsumformung, in der Höhe der Spannung, in der zur Verfügung gestellten Leistung, durch verschiedene Bauarten und unterschiedliche Bauteil-Tolleranzen entstehen somit verschiedenste Masse-Potentiale.
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    interner S-PDIF E/A-Anschluss ( für Geräte der SB073X-Serie )
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  • Coax digital output in X-Fi sound ca

    Hi everyone!
    Since I am founding severe problems to listen correctly my audio-dvd records I am seriously considering to change my SB Audigy 2 ZS for a X-Fi sound card in the hope it will work properly. But I can not find out what of the X-Fi sound cards family will give me the outputs I need. I need a coas digital output to connect to my HT system, for the DD and DTS media, and the three analog output, for the audio-dvd media. All the specs I have read talks about the digital optical output present in the cards, but no mention of the coax output. I don not want those add-ons that offer multiple I/O conenctions in the front of the computer, I would like the old system with all the required connections in the rear of the PC. Could any of you confirm if any of the X-Fi sound cards family has those connections? Or, even better, could any of us put some light on the problems I am having to listen the audio-dvd media?, it seems a sw problem, that causes crashes of the Creative Audio-DVD sw, the Power DVD 6 & 7 player everytime I try to play such a format. The DTS or DVD are played correctly, even when my Windows XP Pro SP2 seems to have some problems when selecting the digital output of the sound card. Are those problems still present in the X-Fi solutions?
    Best regards.

    HSE wrote:
    Excluding the XtremeGamer, all the X-Fi cards have coax SPDIF-out via flexijack, if you already have the mini-to-RCA cable or adapter, it's the same as in an A2ZS. The problem is that, unless you can find a retail XtremeMusic (which is being discontinued), only cards with I/O dri've or console can decode DVD-Audio. Besides, Audigys and X-Fis use the same DVD-A player, if the latest version (2.00.75) BSODs on you, it will probably do so with an X-Fi.Have you tried processor affinity settings for the DVD-A player? it solves the BSOD problems in some cases.
    First of all, thank you very much HSE for your reply.
    It is great to know that the flexijack provides with one coax SPDIF-out, I was most uncertain about it since in every spec page I have found all it is explained is "Flexijack: Line In / Microphone In / Optical Out? via shared 3.5mm mini jack" (c&p from the Creative spec page) that only remarks the "optical", not the "coaxial".
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    Best regards.

  • Horrible feedback using digital output SB0

    Hi,
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  • Solution to my Audigy 4 Digital Output probs... please make a stic

    I was recently playing Q3TA with my son when my overheat protection kicked in. I exited to windows to see the temp and throttle back my CPU a tad, and when I returned I had no sound from my digital output. Analog was working fine, however.
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    I[color="#ff0000"] unplugged the power to my speakers, and reconnected everything. As soon as the power was back up, the sound started playing (I had a .MP3 on for testing).
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    2. Apparently, some situations introduce a faulty signal to the digital output that scrambles the speaker units and they refuse to operate any longer.
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    Make this a sticky for future me!!!

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    Ok I recieved a response concerning my last comment but unfortunatly it did not answer my question at all. I have a DTT3500 and a sound blaster Audigy Gamer hooked up with the digital out to the /8 din adapter. I try the advanced 3d demo that came with the Audigy software and I only hear the front 2 channels, no center and no rears. The demo where you move the little icons and sound moves along with it. I have 5. activated in my windows control center along with audioHQ and digital out only is selected. my DTT3500 has 4./5. digital selected along with dolby digital/pcm audio and digital in. I am not getting the effect of multisurround at all. My center works and my rears work because playing music I can use all 5 speakers. When I use the analogue outputs I hear multisurround from the advanced 3d demo but my center doesnt work. The analogue setup sounds better but without a center channel its useless to me. Am I doing something wrong? I am using the adapter and digital DIN, what gives? The only reason I noticed I wasnt getting surround was while playing games nothing comes from behind you even on 5. games. The goldmine demo doesnt even work right, when the bird flys behind you it disappears but there is still sound from the rears. Analogue fixes this without a center but the manual and setup say to use the digital din. Do I just have a setting wrong? I would like to experiance the full capacity of multispeakers in my games.

    Dennis,
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    http://us.creative.com/products/prod...0&product=0375
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