Unable to retire group asset
Hi Experts,
I am having problem with group asset retirement. Differences exist between the individual asset and group asset. Although my individual asset NBV is all zero, the group asset still has some value. How should i configure so that whenever my individual asset is zero, the group asset is also zero (so that I can retire the asset completely)
Truely appreciate some advise. Thanks.
Hi
Firstly it is important you refer the note 371534 for information.
The correction code is obvioulsy in your system already.
Please check you run a fiscal year change (RAJAWE00) to year 2009.
Check : transaction code OAAQ and see what is the closed fiscal year?
(If issue pending, please. check Asset Capitalization date in this case)
FYI,
Please double check the following data whether these correspond
to the valid values via SE16 :-
1. T093B > Closed Year
2. T093C > Transfer date
3. T093C > Current Fiscal Year
With regards to the above, you will have to ensure that the
T093B > Closed Year is in line with T093C > Transfer date and
T093C > Current Fiscal Year is later than T093C > Transfer date.
Blaz
Edited by: Nathan Genez on Jun 9, 2010 8:18 AM
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