Understanding JavaFx, Flex, and Openlaszlo offerings for RIAs

I'm interested in improving certain aspects of my UI and I recently stumbled upon javafx/flex/openlaszlo (OL). I'd like to understand:
1. What is needed to develop & deploy javafx. Does it have "gotchas" like Flex, where the sdk is open source, but development and deployment tools are proprietary?
2. How easy is javafx to pickup?
3. Specifically, I'd like to use javafx ( or flex/OL) to either augment or replace an editable table I created using js, ajax, html, and css. Is this the type of thing javafx can/should be used for? Are there any drawbacks or pitfalls to using javafx for this rather than straight js, ajax, html, css?
4. How does javafx compare to flex/OL (as this is a java forum, I do understand that people may not have used flex/OL; but any subjective/objective feedback is helpful)?
Thanks.

Does it have "gotchas" like Flex, where the sdk is open source, but development and deployment tools are proprietary?Currently, yes... Only the compiler is open source, the runtime is currently closed. Although it isn't unreasonable to think it might be (at least partially) opened in the future, once it is stabilized.
Development: can be done with a simple editor and the compiler, and deployment with the command line utility. That's what I use. You can also use NetBeans (open source, decent support of JavaFX) or Eclipse (open source also, support of JFX is a bit lacking, from what I know).
2. The base is quite easy. You have to forget some habits (from Java in general), you have to know some workarounds, but basically it isn't really hard to learn.
3. Table support is currently light, it is planned to be more comprehensive. Currently, you can use a number of third party table components. Or if you don't care about mobile phone support, you can still use Swing components.

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Good Morning,
Please forgive me if this is the wrong place to post- I'm
just having trouble wrapping my head around what is and what isn't
available for free in the Adobe Flex world.
I've been working on an application for the last few months
using Open Laszlo (
http://www.openlaszlo.org/),
but I've been running into frustrations with their lack of
up-to-date documentation, and I've found it difficult to bring new
people into the project, since the set of users who know it is so
small.
While I do like that I can compile to DHTML, that's not
enough to hold me there.
I've been looking into Adobe Flex, and it seems like a good
alternative- I'm comfortable paying $500 for the IDE-
I use Eclipse currently, so having a plugin for it sounds
ideal. That said, when I look into ways to talk to a Java backend,
everything points to Flex Data services, which is now part of some
larger package costing tens of thousands of dollars.
I don't need advanced messages, or data synchronization, as
nice as it would be.. All I really need is the ability to call a
Java method, and get an object back, which I can then work with in
Flex.
I see the forum message that asks
"How
do I 'do' Flash for free?, but this only talks about RPC very
broadly. Given that the message is from over a year ago, I thought
it would be better form to start a new topic, than replying to it.
Can someone explain to me what components I'd need, both on
the client side and the server side?
Is there a set of manuals that explain how to do Flex RPC
from Java?
Can Flex compile to any versions of flash earlier than 9?
(Flash 6/7 is still in wide deployment)
Do I want to start using Flex 2, or Flex 3? Are the
components compatible? Will the F3 docs be ready?
Finally, where can I purchase the Charting components? The
ability to create charts such as
this
overcome a decent price barrier.
Thank you for any insight you can offer, and direction you
can provide.

quote:
Originally posted by:
cunparis2day
On our project they made a proxy in java where they passed in
the name of the method as a string, and an array of objects for the
parameters. The proxy then sent the request via RMI and returned
the result. Kind of a hack but they say it worked (I wasn't here
when they did it).
What did the RMI talk to? Are there docs on this?
quote:
Another approach, generate the proxy from the java
interfaces. Or better yet, generate it dynamically with CGLIB.
quote:
Finally, I'm investigating using Mule for the integration.
Let me know what you think about those suggestions.
We have our own messages, but how would MULE translate them
to Flex?
You know quite a bit more about this, can you take a step
back, and explain?

Flex and BlazeDS Compile for Deployement

Hi,
I've been following the Flex + BlazeDS tutorial on the Message Service from adobe to start learning working with blazeds. Everything worked out great on the local server of course but I got stuck when it came to moving the files to a remote server. I've looked around quite a lot and found out it's because the compiler feeds the services-config.xml upon compile and at lease in my case won't take and external file. The solution everyone has been posting on the net is writing the channels in actionscript within flex and feedin it the valid endpoint that would be found in the xml configuration file. That's all nice and dandy but everyone has been talking and showing examples of this being done for RemoteObject and I haven't managed to find any examples for Messaging.
Can anyone help me out with an example on how to deploy my application to a server? (either by coding the channels in AS or otherwise) The application itself is pretty basic...
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
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<![CDATA[
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   import spark.events.TextOperationEvent;
]]>
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<s:Consumer id="consumer" destination="chat" message="messageHandler(event.message)"/>
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<fx:Script>
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<s:TextArea id="log" height="377" x="10" y="10" width="228" includeIn="Chat"/>
<mx:ControlBar width="246" height="52" x="1" y="395" includeIn="Chat">
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   <s:Button label="Send B" click="send()"/>
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<s:TextInput includeIn="EnterName" x="60" y="177" id="user" />
<s:Button includeIn="EnterName" x="87" y="207" label="Start Chat" id="chat" click="chat_clickHandler(event)"/>
<s:Label includeIn="EnterName" x="57" y="157" text="Please Enter Your Name"/>
</s:Panel>
</s:Applicatio>
And besides that in the messaging-config.xml file on the server a destination with the id="chat" is created and that's it.
Any help or pointing in the right direction will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Nick

Update:
Ok...I finally figured out that by replacing the tokens in the services-config.xml file with the physical address of the server everything works.
Anyway...this means the application needs to be compiled everytime it is moved to a new server or even a different folder on the same server for that matter. Is there any way to pass the {server.name}, {server.port} and {context.root} tokens to the application at runtime for messaging?
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Which is better as UI technology among Flex and Oracle ADF for oracle SOA suit

We have one application which is using oracle’s Service oriented Architecture (SoA) suite. Currently, there is a debate on the technology for UI in the new architecture that will be rich, easy to maintain, scalable and integrates well with SOA suite. We have two options one is Flex and other is Oracle ADF. UI part contains number of graphs, tabular and charts data. So it would be great if any one suggest which technolgy will be better for UI point of view. Thanks in advance.

Hi,
I looked at the demo
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/11gdemos/ADF112/ADF112.html
It's interesting.
However, I would point out two things:
1- Before Oracle, Sun failed with UI technologies: there was AWT then Swing then Java FX. None of them was a star. The only place where Sun really won the UI war is the Bluray Disc format.
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Which is better as UI technology among Flex and Oracle ADF for oracle SOA s

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We have two options one is Flex and other is Oracle ADF.
UI part contains number of graphs, tabular and charts data. So it would be great if any one suggest which technolgy will be better for UI point of view.
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
I looked at the demo
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/11gdemos/ADF112/ADF112.html
It's interesting.
However, I would point out two things:
1- Before Oracle, Sun failed with UI technologies: there was AWT then Swing then Java FX. None of them was a star. The only place where Sun really won the UI war is the Bluray Disc format.
2- About half of the RIA in the financial/banking industry are developed with Flex, the other half is developed with Silverlight / WPF. HTML 5 is being taken up by some, but you still end up with the usual problem of having to pick up an AJAX framework, and get tied to a vendor anyway in the end. Never heard about any project developed with Oracle ADF yet.

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The webOS platform is the go-forward strategy for Hewlett-Packard for both smart phones and tablets.

The right place to look for updates on Flex is http://flex.apache.org
The good thing is that activities are still going on. The bad things are that:
- Unless the dependency to Adobe air is cut, Flex as an open source project is bound to fail imho. See FlexJS for updates on that point
- Current activties seem to be focused around making things more polished rather than working on hard stuff (typically developing an independent and open source runtime execution engine => flexJS)
So...
For a small company, home development, not so business critical applications, I recommend warmly Flex, since it is one of the best (if not the best) cross-platform mobile development environment (Very good performances if used appropriately, very good programming environment, lots of components, structured language, lots of documentation and tutorials, easy to design, etc.)
for business critical applications... The risk is high !

What is the state if flex, and air development for air

Hi,
1- I wanted to know what is the state of affairs in flex and air as cross platform mobile development solutions?
2- Are they still worth learning and spending time developing mobile application using these technologies?
Becuase all the documnetation forum posts and most of the help material I come across is almost a year old.
Any guidance in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

The right place to look for updates on Flex is http://flex.apache.org
The good thing is that activities are still going on. The bad things are that:
- Unless the dependency to Adobe air is cut, Flex as an open source project is bound to fail imho. See FlexJS for updates on that point
- Current activties seem to be focused around making things more polished rather than working on hard stuff (typically developing an independent and open source runtime execution engine => flexJS)
So...
For a small company, home development, not so business critical applications, I recommend warmly Flex, since it is one of the best (if not the best) cross-platform mobile development environment (Very good performances if used appropriately, very good programming environment, lots of components, structured language, lots of documentation and tutorials, easy to design, etc.)
for business critical applications... The risk is high !

Flex and multilanguage support for webUI

I am looking into Flex as the next-gen development system for
our web apps. I do not know very much about Flex at this time, but
I need to find out how Flex handles multilanguage capability.
Currently, we make heavy use of JS and DHTML for our UI
design, and to support different languages we separate out all our
strings into individual files (utf8) that are translated. The
client-side JS will make a call to the server to determine the
user's language preference and load the appropriate string file
when rendering the UI.
I need to know if something like this is possible in the Flex
environment, or how Flex handles multilanguage string separation.
Thanks

Hi Lalo,
well, I am still not sure what your problem is - but....
The selection of the Code Group for example happens in:
BAPI_CODEGROUP_CODE_GETLIST
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langu = sy-langu
so this defines the language.
Perhaps this helps you to solve your issue and understand the process a little? So you are right - it is the GETDETAIL handler as such - but the language in there is defined by sy-language as you see. Change the language and all should be fine.
Regards,
Oliver
Edited by: Oliver Kaluscha on Jan 30, 2008 2:19 PM
oh - just to mention - MAM017 and so on are running under the RFC user in the backend - so the language of the current user on the PDA will not really help here I think.
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Oliver

MultiMedia Center for Think Offerings for Windows XP and 2000 -- will not install on Windows 7

MultiMedia Center for Think Offerings for Windows XP and 2000 -- will not install on Windows 7 in compatibility mode or any other way. I receive error " can not open \device\memory" and then " This program can not run on his hardware.
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Any ideas on how to get this product installed in Windows 7 ?

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What is prereq for reading above, and for start develop/reading with flex and cf(level?) ?

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/pdfs/getting_started_with_Flex3.pdf
what is prereq for reading above, and for start develop/reading with flex and cf(level?) ?

The Flex Quickstarts will be a place for starters, if you want to know
about Flex/CF integration the first to know would be some basics of CF.
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[svn:osmf:] 17162: config file and relevant changes for flex sdk3 to flex sdk 4 migration

Revision: 17162
Revision: 17162
Author:   [email protected]
Date:     2010-08-02 18:31:23 -0700 (Mon, 02 Aug 2010)
Log Message:
config file and relevant changes for flex sdk3 to flex sdk 4 migration
Modified Paths:
    osmf/trunk/apps/certification/zeri/FlexUnit4UIListener/src/org/flexunit/flexui/data/TestR unnerBasePresentationModel.as
    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/DynamicStreamingSample/DynamicStreamingSample-build-con fig.xml
    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/ExamplePlayer/ExamplePlayer-build-config.xml
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Revision: 17162
Revision: 17162
Author:   [email protected]
Date:     2010-08-02 18:31:23 -0700 (Mon, 02 Aug 2010)
Log Message:
config file and relevant changes for flex sdk3 to flex sdk 4 migration
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    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/DynamicStreamingSample/DynamicStreamingSample-build-con fig.xml
    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/ExamplePlayer/ExamplePlayer-build-config.xml
    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/ExamplePlayer/org/osmf/view/MainWindowLayout.mxml
    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/MediaContainerSample/MediaContainerSample-build-config. xml
    osmf/trunk/apps/samples/framework/MediaContainerUIComponent/MediaContainerUIComponent-bui ld-config.xml
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Interface
screenshot
De MonsterDebugger started out as an internal tool that
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structure. De MonsterDebugger is made with Adobe Flex and brought
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