Universe on R/3 tables : possible?

Hi,
I was wondering whether it's possible to build a Universe on top of a R/3 table via the SAP Integration kit. Is it?
Regards,
Satyajit

Hi,
you just resurrected a really old thread!
Yes, you can use universe drivers to read tables in an sql server. What you won't get is the R/3 application's abstraction, so any native structures won't be available (infosets for example)
With BI4.0 FeaturePack03 (Q1 2012) you will get EC6 drivers in the Information Designer Tool, to publish .UNX universes for client tool consumption.
Regards,
Henry

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Are there any (dis)advantages in building a universe on fully normalized tables instead of building dimensional model/tables and then universe on top of them?

Hello,
I’m hoping someone can help me with understanding advantages and disadvantages if we want to build a universe on top of a fully normalized tables, compared to using a dimensional model with star schemas.
I’ve read some discussions here that say that it is possible to create a universe on top of normalized tables. Then, can we avoid building of dimensional tables (a data mart), and just use normalized tables? I would say that it is easier to use star schema dimensions and facts tables to build a universe, but our end users might ask “why do we have to go through building a dimensional data mart, if we can have same reports with hierarchies and drill-down functionality based on a universe built on top of our already existing normalized tables?”
Can you point me to some established best practices regarding using normalized tables to build a universe? Any documents with some examples for this?
Any expected difficulties during design/development phase of our universe, related to using normalized tables?
Any expected performance degradation if we use normalized tables compared to using dimensional tables?
Can I build universe more easily if I transform (modify) our normalized model (by using alias tables and views) to look like snowflake model?
I’m using BOE XI 3.1, tables are in Oracle 11.2.
Thank you

Few Disadvantages that I usually face when building universe on Normalized tables,
1. Performance - Read operations have to suffer because indexing strategies do not go well with table joins
2. Derived Tables - Due to complex Queries/ Logic, most of the time, end-up creating derived tables, which doesn't use back-end table indexes and slows down the report runtime.
3. Normalized table/ Transaction tables may not always have proper cardinality and often results in Cartesian products
4. Normalized tables may not have tight referential integrity and may have to join more than one column and join on varchar, etc whereas, good Dimensional model datawarehouse will have proper keys/ integer joins and not always necessary to join on multiple fields
5. Often deal with Fan and Chasm Traps
6. Dealing with Database fields with nulls, blanks, date in numeric format, etc.,
7. No Facts, Dimensions separated and most of the time they are in same table
and More...
If performance is not a matter and building Datawarehouse is a big deal, then I will start building Universe on normalized tables by having the database diagram as reference for Joins, contexts, etc
Note: After dealing with universes based on normalized tables for few years (by creating views, complex sql queries data loading to tables and unv on these tables, derived tables), I ended up creating star-schema dimensional model (couple of months extra ETL work), users/ developers felt lot better when they have to create standard/ ad-hoc reports and they are super fast compared to previous universes.

Developing a Universe using SAP Backend Tables

Hi Experts,
We have a requirement to develop a universe using SAP backend tables ( R3 tables ) , is it posible to develop as a normal tables or can not do the same.
Regards,
Suresh
Edited by: Suresh Mandalapu on Nov 21, 2011 8:49 AM

Hi Christian,
OLAP Universes are not supported with Crystal Reports 2008.
for Crystal Reports connecting to SAP BW take a look here:
Crystal Reports and BI Queries
/people/ingo.hilgefort/blog/2008/02/19/businessobjects-and-sap-part-2
Crystal Reports and BI Hierarchies
/people/ingo.hilgefort/blog/2008/02/27/businessobjects-and-sap-part-3
Ingo

Universe creation- without fact tables

Hi All,
I want to create a universe , but the problem is I don have any fact tables in my database. So in which schema i can create a universe?
I have one Master table with all Primary Key? So i thought of mapping this master table with other Dimansion table?say any advantages/ disadvatages of star Schema?

Hi,
I don't want to talk about adavantages/diadvantages of star schema as if would take time.
My recommendation is that if you cannot change the database schema of your customer you can build a universe on any database schema and use all features that to obtain the best universe you can have:
<ul><li>Create table aliases
<li>Create contexts if needed
<li>Create derived tables to avoid contexts or complex joins
<li>etc
I already had, in the past, to build a universe on schema that contained only a big table and I successfully created a universe and used it.
Didier

FLEET Table, Possible Values For Field IS SI UNIT

Dear experts,
While doing analysis on fleet data I realized that for field IS_SI_UNIT (PM: Vehicle Data in SI Unit (e.g. Dimensions)) in table FLEET in two separate systems we have vehicle records set with different entries for this field.
In one system vehicles are stored with value F: DB Unit set individually (new)
and in other one with value Y: DB Unit set through (new)
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Does anyone know what does it mean and what influence this has? In both systems vehicles are created by end users using standard PM creation transaction and those indicators are set in background while equipment is saved so there is not influence by end user.
I could not find much information on SAP support portal about meaning behind possible values for field IS_SI_UNIT in table FLEET so was wondering if anyone knows more here?
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There will not be any impact.Finally system will consider only SI units for fleet equipment consumption calculation.
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Steps to create Universe without using Fact Table

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i am confronting with a problem by creating an Universe.
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Could you please explain the steps for creating an universe without fatc table?
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Pat

The first thing to do is identify the tables in your schema that contain measures. These will be your base tables for contexts.
Then identify all the tables that relate to each of your candidate fact tables.
You may identify two related tables, both with facts in, which would give you a fan trap.
Say you have a schema with only three tables and they are related as: T1 -< T2 -< T3
T2 and T3 both have measure columns.
What you would need to do is create an alias of T2 (AT2) and join it to T2.
You would then have two contexts, T1-< T2 , T2-< T3 and T1-<T2, T2- AT2
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Panamanian wrote:
Yes, that's what I'm looking for.
Too bad.
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Maybe similar also to USER_SOURCE view.
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Post Author: bradwist
CA Forum: Semantic Layer and Data Connectivity
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I have a requirement in CRM role where the sales organization value has to taken from a table. Since this value is different between development, Quality and production.
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Hi ,
Did you mean to say you will have one sales org value in DEV?
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How to get the universe metadata information (class , tables...) through JSP coding ?

Hi,
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hi
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I have an External Table defined with fixed record size, using Oracle 10.2.0.2.0 on HP/UX. At 279 byte records (1 or more fields, doesn't seem to matter), it can read almost 5M bytes in the file (17,421 records to be exact). At 280 byte records, it can not, but blows up with "partial record at end of file" - which is nonsense. It can read up to 3744 records, just below 1,048,320 bytes (1M bytes). 1 record over that, it blows up.
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Anyone have any explanation for this behavior? The docs say READSIZE is the read buffer, but only mentions that it is important to the largest record that can be processed - mine are only 280/560 bytes. My table definition is practically taken right out of the example in the docs for fixed length records (change the fields, sizes, names and it is identical - all clauses the same).
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Should I report this as a bug to Oracle, or am I missing something?
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Is tabbing through all the active cells of a table possible?

hi...
i need to tab through the active cells which are already not seen on the table. i mean i can only tab through the cells which i see, i need to use the horizontal scrollbar to move to the cells which are not already seen.
can i programmatically change this behaviour?
i used the example program below to disable a part of the table.
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/epd/p/id/2163
then i noticed this behaviour. hope its the same with arrays also.
please reply with your valuable suggestions
thanks in advance
Renn
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Please hav a look at the VI
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Universe on R/3 tables : possible?

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