Unknown space after text inset

As seen in the picture below (also added link for larger picture, will be available 24 h ExtraZoom High Definition image #32005. Zoom in or zoom out high resolution photo.),
there is a huge space between the inset (table broken across 2 pages) and the following paragraph.
All insets are written in the same way, but only this one happens to look so weird. I've checked the inset and there is no huge space at the end of it.
As you can see in the picture below, the end of the page is right at the end of the table's anchor (text cursor can be seen)
Any ideas as to what I could possibly do to resolve this?
Thank you!

Hello!
In regards to your response, I've uploaded the fm files (main file + insets) and scrubbed the confidential information out of them. The issue is still reproducible, as seen in the Data.fm document.
Thank you for replying on such short notice!
Dropbox - fm files.zip

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          <li class="style49"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Glenn has more experience. He has been to the places that he will take you – not for a week or two – but for months!!   Glenn knows where to get the best possible images and can show you how to achieve them. </font></li>
          <li class="style49"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Having completed his Msc. in Environmental Studies Glenn is very environmentally and socially aware. When we visit communities around the world we give something back to these places and the people who live there. </font></li>
          <li class="style49"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Glenn's <a href="photoworkshops.htm">Photography Workshops</a> will be fun too!</font></li>
        </ul>
        <p align="center" class="style66">JOIN NATURE PHOTOGRAPHER GLENN BARTLEY FOR A BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOP TO:</p>
        <ul class="style48">
          <li class="style45"> <a href="Workshops/CostaRica.html"><strong>COSTA RICA PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOP</strong></a> - TROPICAL BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY AT ITS FINEST</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="Workshops/Ecuador.htm"><strong>ECUADOR PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOP</strong></a> - HUMMINGBIRD PHOTOGRAPHY</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="Workshops/VancouverIsland.htm"><strong>VANCOUVER   ISLAND PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOP</strong></a> - NATURE PHOTOGRAPHY OASIS</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="Workshops/Manitoba-Churchill.htm"><strong>CHURCHILL BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOP</strong></a> - BIRDS OF THE HIGH ARCTIC</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="../VictoriaBirdPhotoAcademy_Photoshop.html"><strong>ADOBE PHOTOSHOP WORKSHOPS</strong></a> - ONLINE OR IN PERSON I CAN TEACH YOU HOW TO USE ADOBE PHOTOSHOP</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="Workshops/OneonOneWorkshops.htm"><strong>ONE ON ONE BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOPS</strong></a> - CONTACT ME TO DISCUSS THE OPTIONS FOR INDIVIDUAL OR SMALL GROUP BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOPS</li>
        </ul>
        <p align="center" class="style67"><strong>GLENNS CURRENT BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY PORTFOLIOS</strong>:</p>
        <ul class="style48">
          <li class="style45"><a href="../naturephotography/birdslist.htm"><strong>BIRDS OF NORTH AMERICA</strong></a> - 380 bird species from North America and counting...</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="../naturephotography/Ecuador/ecuador birdslist.htm"><strong>BIRDS OF ECUADOR</strong></a> - Over 375 bird species from mainland Ecuador</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="../naturephotography/costarica birdslist.htm"><strong>BIRDS OF COSTA RICA</strong></a> - Over 250 bird species from Costa Rica</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="../naturephotography/Trinidad/trinidad birdslist.htm"><strong>BIRDS OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO</strong></a> - A sample of some of the exciting birds that call these Islands home...</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="../naturephotography/articles/HummingbirdsoftheWorld.html"><strong>HUMMINGBIRD PHOTOGRAPHY</strong></a> - Over 100 species of Hummingbirds Photographed.</li>
          <li class="style45"><a href="../naturephotography/North American Warblers.html"><strong>WARBLERS OF NORTH AMERICA</strong></a> - Nearly all of the Wood Warblers that live in Canada.</li>
        </ul>
        <p align="center" class="style66">BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY EQUIPMENT:</p>
        <p align="left" class="style67">I currently use Canon Digital Photography equipment. My primary camera is the Canon 7D and I use lenses including the 500mm f/4 L IS, 300mm f/4 L IS, 400mm f/5.6 L, and 17-40mm f/4 L. To find out more about the bird photography equipment that I use visit my <a href="naturephotography/articles/gear.htm">nature photography equipment page</a>.</p>
        <p align="center" class="style67"><strong>PHOTOGRAPHER BIOGRAPHY</strong>:</p>
        <div align="left" class="style48">
          <p class="style45">I have
            been enchanted by nature, birds and wildlife for as long as I can remember.
            Growing up in Toronto, Canada I can recall countless hours spent
            glued to National Geographic magazines, natural history books or watching
            David Suzuki's "The Nature of Things" on TV. Those days
            I took any opportunity I had to study and learn about animals of all
            kinds. Nowadays
            I often find myself up at the crack of dawn, knee-deep in mud or covered
            in mosquitoes all in pursuit of capturing just a glimpse of natures
            beauty. Although I enjoy photographing all of mother natures fascinating
            creatures. I tend to focus on birds. Why birds? I think it's because
            there are so many species of birds, they can be found almost anywhere, they are
            challenging to photograph and they are beautiful to watch. I love birds!</p>
        </div>
        <p align="left" class="style67">I
          will continue to strive to improve my craft of bird photography, and capture some part of
          the beauty that surrounds us all. Along the way I look forward to sharing
          my passion for nature photography, birds and the natural world with each and every
          one of you. Thanks
          for visiting. I hope you enjoy my site.</p>
        <p align="center" class="style67"><strong>RECENT BOOK PROJECTS:</strong></p>
        <ul>
          <li class="style67"><strong><a href="../VancouverIslandBook.html">BIRDS OF VANCOUVER ISLAND</a></strong> - GLENN BARTLEY</li>
          <li class="style67"><strong><a href="../Ecuador book.html">BIRDS IN ECUADOR</a></strong> - GLENN BARTLEY</li>
          <li class="style67"><strong>BIRD COLORATION</strong> - NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SOCIETY</li>
          <li class="style67"><strong>GLOBAL BIRDING</strong> - NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SOCIETY</li>
        </ul>
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      </div>
      <p class="style36"> </p>
      <h2 align="center" class="style29">KEYWORDS: BIRD, PHOTOGRAPHY, <a href="photoworkshops.htm">PHOTOGRAPHY WORKSHOPS</a>, PHOTOGRAPHY TOURS, NATURE, NATURE PHOTOGRAPHY, CANADA, COSTA RICA, ECUADOR, CHURCHILL, WILDLIFE, CANON, HUMMINGBIRDS</h2></td>
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i am a newbie flash designer. a client has asked me to make modifications in a flash file used on his website. it is flash 8 actionscript. i am currently working on the same and would appreciate your help. the client has given me 'divisions.swf' file which i decompiled using sothink decompiler 4.5 build 90120 to '~divisions original.fla'. the xml folder resides in the same folder as ~divisions original.fla. it contains divisions.xml. you can download these files at http://rapidshare.com/files/257100523/space_after_text_when_scroll_to_bottom.zip
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please help me to resolve this problem.
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Try changing the code in frame 16 to be:
stop ();
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http://www.adobe.com/support/flash/action_scripts/actionscript_dictionary/actionscript_dic tionary303.html.

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Hi all,
I seem to run into this issue everytime I have two paragraph style applied within one text container.
If I include a heading and apply a paragraph style which includes 'space after' and then some text below with another style it does not appear in either 'preview in browser' (Chrome) or in the exported html. The text appears butted up against each other. Please keep in mind there are no other paragraph or character styles applied to this container.
It works if I 'unlink style from selection'.
However this is extremely frustrating when you have a text heavy site with multiple paragraph styles - it effectively renders paragraph styles useless and generates excessive CSS code and a very time-consuming process if I need to go back and alter the paragraph styles.
Does anyone else experience this issue? Can anyone shed some light on this?
I need to get this site through to my client ASAP and would rather have a professional CSS file rather than one full of work-arounds.
Adobe, please respond ASAP.
Kind regards,
Adam

For two separate paragraph styles to work in one text container in muse,
you need to use a hard return.
You would use Character Styles if you want to use two specific styles inside one text container
with just a "en space" between the text.
This is based on using Muse generated CSS and not going into the CSS files after Muse generated the code and altering to modify the look.
See attached file:

How to stop iphone 4s from putting a space after the second digit, when entering a text number from the keypad

How do I stop the iphone 4s from putting a space after the second digit, when entering a text number from the keypad. Entering a text number on the key pad like 61998 comes out on the screen as 61 998 and the sms fails to go.

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I am creating a proposal with a ton of text. I used to align everything to a baseline grid with justified type and indented paragraphs. Recently, however, I was asked to change the style to left aligned text with spaces between the paragraphs. The text flows into two columns per page, but I'll be damned if I can get the text to line up. I've tried different baseline grids as well as before and after spacing. I think my issue might be trying to keep paragraph spacing as half the leading. If my copy text leading and baseline are 14 or 7 pt, will a 7 pt paragraph space after work?
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Subheaders: 10 pt font/ 14 pt leadingSpace before/after: 7/3.5
Baseline: tried both 14 pt and 7 pt

That's what I thought. I was taught to either have an indented second paragraph or to separate the paragraphs by half the leading of the type. Seems like it's impossible to align the text that way. A full leading separation (14 pt) between paragraphs seems excessive though.

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TCS4: Hyperlinks in RH10 are broken after an FM text inset. Why?

Hyperlinks from another FM document of the same FM Book does not work in RoboHelp after an FM inset. But hyperlinks from the same FM document works in Robohelp after an FM inset.
All the hyperlinks work in PDF.
Note: The hyperlinks are not within the text inset but outside the text inset. As long as it is after the text inset, from that point onward, the links will not work (if they point to another FM doc).
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