Upgrade of agent from IR3 or earlier to IR4 or IR4hp1 breaks agent

Well this is new.. I've tried it on several machines now with the exact
same results.
Previously when a new agent was released, I would make a new response
transform for it with zenworks package management and just deploy it.
No problems at all.
What happens in this case is that when it reboots, the agent will be
stuck in an offline state. You can't right click on it and pull up a
menu either.
Remove the agent via add/remove programs and reinstall the new agent and
it works fine. Not a great option to upgrade multiple sites.
Anyone else seen this?

Perhaps open an SR?
I'm not aware of this being a known issue and certainly nothing I have
tested my personally.
So most likely issues I have had to deal with in the past may be different
than now.
I would suggest Checking the "%program files%\novell\zenworks folder on a
"Bad" vs a "Good" machine to see if there is a byte size difference.
Perchance there is a wrong DLL version that is causing a file to not get
updated, perhaps MSIEXEC is not properly handing "in use" files.
I've had an issue where I could see in the logs where MSIEXEC flagged a file
in use but only ended up removing the locked file on reboot w/o putting in
the proper file.
And details about What is broken in the agent may help?
WM Service? NALNT Service? NAL Window? etc.. etc...
Craig Wilson - MCNE, MCSE, CCNA
Novell Knowledge Partner
Novell does not officially monitor these forums.
Suggestions/Opinions/Statements made by me are solely my own.
These thoughts may not be shared by either Novell or any rational human.
"Patrick Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. ..
> Patrick Farrell wrote:
>> Craig Wilson wrote:
>>> Well Definitely NALWIN/NALDESK/NALEXPLD or whatever is running.
>>> That seems to be a key one. But it would not hurt to shut down the
>>> services such as WM and NALNTSRV
>>>
>>> This is based more on historical observations than this specific
>>> upgrade, so this may not help in the least if this is a new issue.
>>>
>> Well I guess that means I can't deploy it using zenworks calling the MSI
>> specifically... That kinda stinks :P
>>
>> I guess the question is, which services can you kill once an application
>> starts to deploy and still have it go? If I have an MSI based object
>> pointed at the agent and it's mst, what still has to run for it to be
>> able to deploy?
>>
>
> FYI update, so far NOTHING seems to fix this other than
> uninstall/reinstall.
>
> net stop "Remote Management Agent"
> net stop "Novell ZENworks Remote Management Agent"
> net stop "Novell ZFD Remote Management"
> net stop "Workstation Manager"
> net stop "Novell Application Launcher"
> pskill.exe -t zenrem32.exe
> pskill.exe -t nalntsrv.exe
> pskill.exe -t NalView.exe
> pskill.exe -t NALWIN32.EXE
> pskill.exe -t NalWin.exe
> pskill.exe -t NalDiag.exe
> pskill.exe -t NALDESK.EXE
> pskill.exe -t NalAgent.exe
>
> Along with Reinstall all and vamus settings had no effect.
>
> I can do an msiexec /x in the script to remove zen and fix, but only if
> the version on the workstation is the same as what I'm trying to install,
> and it could be one of several agent versions. Joy.
> ]

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