Upgrading and Partitioning

Hi there,
I'm going to be upgrading my OS (currently Tiger), over to Snow Leopard. I purchased a 1TB external Firewire 800 Harddrive to back-up my current OS.
My plan is to create two partitions on the external HD...
- the first partition for a bootable clone of Tiger (using Super Duper or similar)
- the second partition for Time Machine (one I install Leopard on my iMAC), and for photo and video storage.
Is it as easy as reformating the external HD using Mac OS Extended format, and making sure it uses the the "GUID Partition Table (GPT)"...then cloning my existing internal harddrive over to the first partition? Once I clone my drive, can I immediatly boot off of the first partition and run off of the external...just like I am running off of my internal HD?
Basically...how will the iMAC know that the first partition is a bootable drive? (I know that I have to hold a key on startup in order to boot off of another drive.)
I'm used to PCs where they like to have very specific condition in order for a drive to be bootable.
Once I have SNow Leopard installed on my internal HD...is it easy to boot off of the external HD and run Tiger?
Thanks for any help.

ronwel37 wrote:
Hi there,
I'm going to be upgrading my OS (currently Tiger), over to Snow Leopard. I purchased a 1TB external Firewire 800 Harddrive to back-up my current OS.
My plan is to create two partitions on the external HD...
- the first partition for a bootable clone of Tiger (using Super Duper or similar)
- the second partition for Time Machine (one I install Leopard on my iMAC), and for photo and video storage.
I wouldn't share a partition with Time Machine and data. Give TM a partition by itself with at least 2x the amount of data you plan to be backing up.
Is it as easy as reformating the external HD using Mac OS Extended format, and making sure it uses the the "GUID Partition Table (GPT)"...then cloning my existing internal harddrive over to the first partition?
Yes, It's that easy.
Once I clone my drive, can I immediatly boot off of the first partition and run off of the external...just like I am running off of my internal HD?
Yes
Basically...how will the iMAC know that the first partition is a bootable drive? (I know that I have to hold a key on startup in order to boot off of another drive.)
It will create an EFI partition on the drive, about 200 Megs.
I'm used to PCs where they like to have very specific condition in order for a drive to be bootable.
Once I have SNow Leopard installed on my internal HD...is it easy to boot off of the external HD and run Tiger?
Yes, just hold down the OPT key during boot to select your boot drive or use System Preferences > Startup Drive to select the boot drive.
Thanks for any help.
Regards,
Captfred

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No, depending upon what OS X version you stop at depends how many programs no longer work.
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Later on 10.8 is being released after this summer, you may want to consider getting a new machine with 10.8 a few months later to ensure all the bugs are worked out of it.
Your not a comptuer savvy person, you like most Apple users expect your machine to "just work" I think going to 10.7 will be a bad experience for you.
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