Upgrading original 8core Mac Pro 667 FSB to 1033 & beyond..is it possible?

hey all,
I have an first edition (2007) 2 quad x 3hz (8 core) with 667 and am looking to upgrade its overall performance - is upgrading its FSB possible to accomodate ddr3?
Any other tips to increase performance?
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You can install 32GB but can your apps use it? is it effective? sounds more like a waste unless you work with huge 3GB CS4 files. Do just enough to get you through another year until Gulftown etc has ironed out and matured. SSDs can be used in any system.
Apple doesn't really list or update customer installable parts from what there was when it first listed - disk size, RAM etc.
A 2009 Apple Special goes for $2199 and slightly better but not by a huge margin - all depends on what apps, what type of return in performance, where an 8-core today though costs more than ever.
A single socket Gulftown processor will go for $1000-1500 and that isn't even Xeon versions. But more efficient.
If you really want or like to upgrade... I'd switch to Windows and invest in one of the X58 based systems. I even find Finder and OS X to feel like it is sluggish and held back and not as well optimized in desktop and applications at this point - just install both on Mac Pro 2009 and see.

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Hi,
Just found this on the apple store:
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I have used the Apple displays because they appear to me to be as good as anything out there, and it was an easy choice as I felt that Apple would have included whatever driver/settings were necessary to make it a brainless installation with 100% operability and compatibility. I didn't worry to much about the expense as I thought that if I was going to be spending 8-12 hours a day sitting in front of glowing screens, I might as well get the ones I am sure I was going to be happy with.
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PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE!
What you are seeing is proper.
Have a beer.
In fact you have time to drink a case if you want!
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10:Take your new system for a drive and check it out.
11:Make yourself a drink. That's at eleven because it number one twice!
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PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE! PATIENCE!

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