Urgent - Bidding Engine Start Conditions

Hi all,
i try to set up the Bidding Engine process.
I have a problem with the start condition of the Workflow.
It doesn´t work.
I set up WF - without approval
WS14500026 CHANGEVERSIONSAVED
WS14500026 SAVED
and just changed the role from the Standard one SAP_BBP_STAL_Manager - to a customer on Y_SAP_BBP_STAL_OPERAT_PURCHAS
I always get an error message
"Approval workflow is ambiguous. Inform system administrator "
What can i do?
Thx
Ralf

Most of the times SRM returns message "Approval workflow is ambiguous"
if it finds two workflows activated contradicting each other
e.g. Approval not required (auto approval)
and one step approval of Bid
Please check if you have any such cases in SWB_COND
BR
Dinesh

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