Urgent: Implement Workflow with BPM

Dear Guru,
Currently using SAP R/3 V4.7, we are going to implement SAP Business Workflow (and integrates with external applications including Email) together with SAP Netweaver.
Question:
Do I need to implement BPM Engine and SAP XI as part of the project? Please give me a clear explanation regard this matter. Which version of application would you recommend. Thank you very much.
Best Regard,

Hi Naveen,
Thank you for your answer. Therefore, only SAP Business Workflow is enough for getting my job done, isn't it? However, if I need more integration, apart from email, with external systems such as customer and partner systems, I must run SAP XI and BPM engine. Do my understanding is correct from your answer? So, what is the main purpose of BPM engine related to SAP Business Workflow? Thank you very much.
Best Regards,

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