Using Subcontracting with Sales Order Stock

Hi SDN Network,
We use the made to order setup so run MRP with the Sales Order as the basis of the demand. After that, we avail the services of a subcontractor to assemble the finished goods although we supply the subassembly and raw matls.
The PR generated during the MRP run has an account assignment of either M or E depending on the Item Cat in the sales order. From that PR, we create a subcon PO (item cat L). Problem is the PO generated is not showing up on the ME2O transaction. Does this mean that POs whose GR goes directly to Sales Order stock are not allowed in the system? I am able to post
We would still want to retain the 'reservation' of the materials using the Sales Order stock. But does it follow that you cannot use Sales Order Stock with subcontracting?
Did I miss out anything in the config? Is there another way to do this?
Thanks in advance!

Hi
Subcontracting issue to subcontractor (special stock O) and sales order stock (special stock E) both have special stock indicators and hence not possible.
The process can be done as explained in the link below:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Best regards
Ramki

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We have a scenario in subcontracting wherein the sales order the customer also wants to see the components and as such along with the Header item of subcontracting ,we also mention the components as another line item in the sane Sales Order.
Now from the sale sorder two Po's are created onr for the subcontractor and one for the compnens to be procured.
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your expert advice shallbe helpful in resolving a longtime pending issue , waiting for the response.
Regards
Jabeen

This is a known issue, the system doesnt allow stock to have two special stock statuses at the same time.
Your concern of having to make multiple storage locations is valid (since this is a configuration).
I suggest you do the following
- Configure a warehouse and a single storage type (say 001). Allow mixing of materials in a single bin
- Assign this warehouse to a new storage location.
- Create a bin for every sales order number in the warehouse.
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- To consume the stocks, you can use 231E movement (MB1A). On the WM side, the picking strategy can be enhanced so that the picking TO is generated with the correct source bin. Make sure the GL account and CO objects are as per FICO requirements.
This way you can track the stocks binwise (bin level reports are available in WM), perform physical inventory and also consume the stocks from the relevant bin automatically.
We had faced the same situation, and we ended up not having sales order stock at all.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
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Edited by: Alex Arti on Aug 6, 2008 7:16 PM

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Hi,
You said that your user mistyped the SO number and it resulted in a -quant. In which transaction was it possible? If I give a non existing no. SAP doesn't allow me to book.
If I were you I would check both in WM & IM what the user had done...step-by-step...
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Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 24, 2008 8:31 PM

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Symptom
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Requisition &, item & , assigned to other order account
Other terms
ME21N, ME22N, ME23N, 06251, sobkz,
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Solution
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I use MD50 to generate PReqs for MTO, these PReqs couldn't be adpoted by ME21N with message 06251:
Requisition &, item & , assigned to other order account
but if I use ME21, it's ok. I find the following notes. But I don't understand in my case I don't want change PReqs account assignment, but adpotion is also failed to get account assignment from PReqs.
Refer to Note 632573 - ME2xN: 06259 if different account assignment in PReq
Summary
Symptom
In Transactions ME21 and ME22, you can change the account assignments for purchase order items with reference to purchase requisitions with sales order special stock or project special stock. This option no longer exists in the EnjoySAP purchase order transactions, the system generates error message 06251:
Requisition &, item & , assigned to other order account
Other terms
ME21N, ME22N, ME23N, 06251, sobkz,
Reason and Prerequisites
The purchase requisitions were not generated from sales and distribution but created for sales order special stock or project special stock.
Solution
In the EnjoySAP purchase order transaction, you cannot enter an account assignment different from the purchase requisition for sales order special stock or project special stock if you reference to a purchase requisition. You must first change the purchase requisition correspondingly and then call the purchase order again.
Under the above mentioned conditions, also in Transactions ME21 and ME22, the account assignment of the purchase order must correspond to the purchase requisition if the reference to the purchase requisition is created in a schedule line. Unlike in Transactions ME2xN, you can change the account assignment in the purchase order at a later stage.
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Problem with sales order stock.

Hi all,
I have stuck in one problem, please help.
We created one sales order A and after production stock is moved to that sales order.But then we created sales order B and moved stock of A to sales order B(By 413 E?). system created materail document for stock movement but stock was not transfered. we can see that stock is against sales order A only. But material document shows that stock is moved to B. then we deleted Sales order B.
Now the stck is against sales order A. when we try to do shipment systen gives error ' VALUATED STOCK BECOMES NEGATIVE.' Message No. M7 314. We have to.ship this material.
When I see the value of this stock it is showing zero.
Please advice what to do.
Thanks.
Edited by: s j on May 10, 2010 3:25 PM

Hi!
Have you recently upgraded to EHP4? In this case, please, check the note 1441195. This note should solve the issue that you are reporting.
I hope this helps,
Esther.

Working With Sales Order Stock - Sales (SD-SLS) - SAP Library

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Hi,
You said that your user mistyped the SO number and it resulted in a -quant. In which transaction was it possible? If I give a non existing no. SAP doesn't allow me to book.
If I were you I would check both in WM & IM what the user had done...step-by-step...
Negative quant comes to existance in interim storage type if we book e.g. a GI. It should have started in IM...how was your user be able to do that??? If it was possible cannot you reverse the IM booking?
(...if all else fails...cannot you create a SO document with external number assignment with the same number?...)
BR
Csaba
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 24, 2008 8:31 PM

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We are in the process of setting up Make To Order (MTO) with Non Valuated Sales Order Stock. We currently use the Material Ledger in our other businesses that use Process Orders.
Does the Material Ledger functionality support MTO with Non Valuated Sales Order Stock? I have been testing this and have not yet figured out how to get ML postings. We are using production orders that settle to sales orders. We do not bring this into inventory, the costs reside on the sales order.
If this functionality does exist, I would assume I need to configure the Material Update Structure but I cannot find any documentation on this.
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Hi Greg,
no, material ledger will not be able to calculate and allocate actual costs for the sales order in the scenario you describe. It would of course, if you used the valuated sales order stock.
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External Procurement with a Valuated Sales Order Stock

Hi Experts,
I read the following in SAP Help,
For external procurement with a Valuated Sales Order Stock, system generates a purchase requisition from the sales order.
If you are using a valuated sales order stock, the externally procured material is assigned to inventory at the time of the goods receipt. If the sales order item is flagged as carrying costs and revenues, then when the goods issue for delivery to the customer takes place, the sales order item is debited with the costs of the externally procured material.
My question is - it says costs of external procurement is debited to sales order item when " goods issue for delivery to the customer takes place"
- but in my case, when I made the GR for purchase order (created automatically by sales order), system directly posted the procurement cost as actual costs to the sales order item. There is no delivery for sales order done still.
So actually, when should the external procurement cost be debited to sales order item -- when GR for purchase order is done (or) when goods issue for delivery to the customer takes place?
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Hi Rafi,
Thanks for your reply. I understand the problem now.
Material which comes from prod order is posted statistically (value type 11) to sales order when GR for prod order is done.
Here, the issue is about a GR for purchase order (assigned to sales order). This material purchased is not used in any production process. Its a material which is supplied to customer along with main material produced in house.
In purchase order, I have given the consumption account (which is cost element 1). Entry was Consumption Dr and GR/IR Cr. So, this posted as actual cost to sales order.
I should have given inventory account in purchase order (with cost element 90).
Its a mistake of using consumption account in purchase order.
Thanks.
GAN.

Subcontracting with slaes order

hi i want to know
how can we do the subcontracting with sales order
i got a process using 311 e movemnt when i search on SDN
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Hi,
Subcontracting for Project Stock: -
Purpose: - Subcontracting is also possible in conjunction with Project stocks. The subcontracting orders are account-assigned to a Project. Thus, the components are not transferred (using a transfer posting) to the "stock of material provided to vendor" but are directly withdrawn from the Project stock the time of the goods receipt. The material manufactured is also posted to the Project stock.
The cost of subcontracting is then debited to the Project.
Since the components are not transferred to the "stock of material provided to vendor", it is recommended that you use a transfer posting to transfer the provided components to a new storage location (for example, 9999). This enables you to obtain an overview of those stocks that are physically located at the subcontractor. This information is particularly important when you carry out a physical inventory of the Project stocks.
Features: -
Withdrawal from Stock of Mat. Provided for Project: -
For components that are managed in Project stock, you can define whether the components are to be withdrawn directly from each Project or from the stock of material provided to vendor. You manage this via the dependent requirements indicator for individual customer requirements and collective requirements (MARC-SBDKZ).
You can maintain this indicator in the following places:
In the MRP view of the material master record (MRP 4)
In the explosion types for the BOM item (in Customizing for Production in the step Basic Data -> Bill of Material -> Item Data -> Define explosion types)
Configuring the explosion types has priority over the configuration in Inventory Management.
If the indicator is set at Collective requirements only (2), the materials are withdrawn from the stock of material provided to vendor. If this indicator is set any other way, the system withdraws materials from Project stock.
Regarding Subcontracting Challan: -
Go to OMJJ, select the field "movement type" and press enter
Enter movement type "311" and double click on "Field selection (Enjoy)" under Dialog Structure on left side.
here "New Entries" and add field "LIFNR" (Vendor)
Now in MIGO, at the time of transfer posting of components using movement type "311 Q", specify the vendor code of the Subcontracting PO (i.e. Subcontractor)
Now create Subcontracting Challan in J1IF01 for material document of 311 Q movement type.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0001", Movement Type "311 Q" should be maintained.
Then do GR against PO and refer the Subcontracting Challan here.
And then do reconciliation in J1IFQ for the GR Document against Subcontracting Challan.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 Q" should be maintained.
Follow the below mentioned process;
Process Steps: -
1. OX09 - Create Storage Location as "9999" for Subcontractor Location
2. MB1B - Do Transfer Posting of material from RM Warehouse to this Storage Location via movement type "311 Q" (Instead of doing 541)
3. Now go to J1IF01 - here use material document of movement type "311 Q" and create Subcontracting challan. (If required)
Prerequisite: - In SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > Here for Movement Type Group "0001" (For issues), maintain movement type "311 Q" also along with 541.
Rest all, refer subcontracting challan during GR and then reconciliation and completion, etc... will be same as usual.
Note: - At the time of GR, consume components from storage location "9999" (for 543 movement type)

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Dear colleagues,
I have been working with stock transport of sales order stock before and it worked - I have no issues with it. But this time my client needs to transport normal stock in one plant to sales order stock in another plant. FYI, this is a cross-company STO, i.e. item category "standard" in the PO.
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Example
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Edited by: Rafael Zaragatzky on Feb 23, 2011 8:31 AM

Thank you, Joshua.
Yes, it works with M - SO stock is moved from plant to plant. But we need to move normal stock in the source plant to SO stock in the destination plant. Therefore I wonder what is it that tells SAP to do GI from sales order stock. Is it just that the AA category defines the sp. stock indicator both for the issuing plant and the receiving plant? In such case, we are stuck.
But the comment in the IMG documentation that I cited first implies that there might be other thing that controls the special stock on the delivering plant side.
BR
Raf

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