ValidateData.js - Need to Force Supporting Detail

I am working on some custom JavaScript for a Hyperion Planning web input form where I need to force users to enter supporting detail. I understand how it's done in the SampleValidateData.js file, however that method will still allow a user to save non-supporting-detail values in a cell.
I would like to cycle through all editable cells and check a property on the cell to see if it contains supporting detail. (ex. by checking the tooltip value)
Does anyone know a specific property I can check on the cell (along with its corresponding value for supporting detail)?
Thanks,
- Jake

Found it. currentDataGrid.isSupporting[r][c]

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Edited by: 888548 on Sep 29, 2011 8:39 AM

Dear Mike,
Thanks so much for your quick response -- this helps a lot.
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