Version control, build, deploy and release management of eBS applications?

Hi All
I am setting up a standard configuration management, build & deployment automation and change & release management process for all types of applications including Oracle eBS, Informatica, Siebel, Cognos, Java etc. As you know, SCM for Java and .Net types of applications are very matured, but not for other types of applications such as Oracle eBS.
Can you give me some hint or point me to some documents on how to manage Oracle eBS applications from SCM's perspective? For example,
1. How to version control eBS artifacts? e.g. what kind of eBS artifacts need to be version controlled?
2. How to build eBS artifacts and then deploy to a new environment? How to move an eBS application from one environment (DEV) to test environment?
3. How to manage changes?
We have a standard SCM tool called RTC from IBM, which has version control, build and change control functions.
Thanks
Jirong

hujirong wrote:
Hi All
I am setting up a standard configuration management, build & deployment automation and change & release management process for all types of applications including Oracle eBS, Informatica, Siebel, Cognos, Java etc. As you know, SCM for Java and .Net types of applications are very matured, but not for other types of applications such as Oracle eBS.
Can you give me some hint or point me to some documents on how to manage Oracle eBS applications from SCM's perspective? For example,
1. How to version control eBS artifacts? e.g. what kind of eBS artifacts need to be version controlled?
2. How to build eBS artifacts and then deploy to a new environment? How to move an eBS application from one environment (DEV) to test environment?
3. How to manage changes?
We have a standard SCM tool called RTC from IBM, which has version control, build and change control functions.
Thanks
JirongPlease do not create duplicate threads -- Software Configuration Management of Oracle eBS

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    >> what procedures do people use to manage the development, testing
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