VOB to anything!

I have a VOB file that I need to be anything that iMovie can edit. It's on a cd (yes a cd, not a dvd) because the mimi-dvd won't go in my macbook drive. I've tried streamclip, and it doesn't do anything but give me errors. DiVA won't even OPEN. Nor will that oher thing it wants. Am I screwed?

to allow Streamclip to convert a .vob, which is mainly mp2, you need additionally the Apple mpeg2 plugin (19.99$)
and:
before doing any conversion drag'n drop that file onto your internal harddrive..

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DVD - VOB Files - The Lowdown

We often see people trying to edit existing DVD-Videos. Some seem to be able to do this fine, while others struggle mightily. What’s the deal? Why can’t one just Import those VOB files and edit happily away?
Let’s go back to the basics just a bit. A .VOB file is a "Video Object File." As such, and by the DVD-specs., it can contain quite a bit of stuff. Some of this is beyond just the Audio & Video contained in the usually present MPEG-2 file, which is hidden inside the VOB. This VOB can contain subtitles, Menus, and ROM content, to name but a few. With simple VOB’s, one can often play them, if they are just renamed to .MPEG, though not always. In the case where this works, one does not need a DVD software player. Any player program that can handle MPEG-2 can play the file.
The structure and elements of a DVD-Video DVD-5 (4.7GB, single sided, single layer) will be in most cases:
AUDIO_TS folder (usually empty). May also not be present.
VIDEO_TS folder, which contains VIDEO_TS.IFO (Video Manager.info), VIDEO_TS.BUP (VMGI.backup), VTS_01_0.IFO (Video Title #1.info), VTS_01_1.VOB (Video Title #1.video), and more of these, incremented by 1. Depending on the number of "titles" on a particular disc, the numbers can range up to the limit of 99. For Projects from most NLE/authoring programs will only have one "title," so you’ll likely not see more than 4 VOB’s and their accompanying IFO’s and BUP’s. The VOB’s will be approximately 1GB in size, the upper limit.
The title of the "movie" inside the VIDEO_TS folder will be contained in the .IFO and the BUP files. If you open up a DVD-Video in Windows Explorer, you’ll see just the folders, and no name, or anything else. The same is for the file names inside the folder(s). They will look the same for all DVD-Videos, though the exact number of these will differ, depending on the structure and number of discrete titles on the disc. It’s not until one opens the DVD-Video in either a software player, or in a set-top player, that the IFO files will play, allowing the player to then access and work with the .VOB’s, via the instructions that are contained in the IFO and BUP files.
Editing a VOB can be a tricky, as it can contain all those different things. Ripping the MPEG-2 file from the VOB is usually the best approach. That is what PrPro, PE, or other NLE’s (Non Linear Editor) attempt to do. Sometimes, it works fine, but sometimes it does not. Another problem can be when there are multiple VOB’s, as the MPEG-2 files can span multiple VOB’s, as they cannot contain more than about 1GB of data. This is why a DVD-Video can only have 1GB of space for ALL Menus and their elements.
As VOB’s can contain the full menuing structure (this will be the first VOB), unless this structure is done 100% by the DVD-specs, there will be issues. Most DVD-recorders include some form of menuing, and most do not do it perfectly. This WILL create issues. Ripping via software will likely be the only answer, or doing a manual capture from a set-top DVD player, hooked up appropriately to your computer with a capture card, or bridge, and using the software that came with that device. You will not have any "device control," so you must start the capture software, hit Record, and then start your DVD in its player. If you do this, make certain that you capture to DV-AVI Type II w/ 48KHz 16-bit Audio.
Once one has edited the Audio & Video contained in the .VOB(s), the process to get the resulting Project back into DVD-Video form is to Burn to DVD. This is the authoring process.
Three things happen:
1.) The edited file is Transcoded to MPEG-2. If you were working from a VOB already, the Audio & Video material has already been Transcoded to MPEG-2, in which there will already be compression of the data. If you do this again, there will be more compression of the data, resulting in a loss in quality. Some NLE’s can do "smart rendering/encoding." None of the programs from Adobe can do this, as they are designed to work with material captured from a miniDV tape camera. While they can handle other footage, there will be compromises. When designed, DV-AVI Type II was chosen as the base workflow, because that was what most miniDV tape cameras produced. The introduction of flash memory, miniDVD, and hard drive cameras, plus the introduction of HD, has changed things a bit, and will continue to change them over the next versions of the programs.
2.) The folder structure and the necessary files are created.
3.) The above material is then physically Burned to a DVD-Video, or is copied to a folder on the computer in the required, and necessary form and structure.
In the case of the former, one can then play the DVD-Video via a software player on a computer, or on a set-top player hooked to a TV or display device. In the case of the latter, one needs a software player to play the files in the VOB, with the instructions coming from the IFO, or the BUP files.
Hunt

Now, I use a Panasonic that can play either VHS, or DVD's, and can burn from a VHS to a DVD-Video. However, the only thing that I use the DVD aspect for is doing an archive of the VHS tape. Instead of using that DVD, I use an Analog to Digital (A-D) bridge to get my digitized material to the HDD. The reason for this are two-fold:
1.) When a DVD-Video is created, the digitized material is compressed into MPEG-2 format. When you later want to edit this material, it is already compressed, and in what is called a GOP (Group of Pictures) format, and all frames are not there. You have one traditional Frame, and the next ~ 15 are only "difference" frames, which do not contain all of the info, only links back to that last full Frame, the I-frame. If one is going to edit, they need ALL I-frames, and PrE creates those, so one can edit at a Frame-level. When done, if they want to end up with an edited DVD-Video, that footage will have to be compressed again, into MPEG-2. By doing the capture via the A-D bridge, I save that file to DV-AVI Type II, which is ALL I-frame, and edits nicely in PrE. Then, when finished, and I go to my edited DVD-Video, I only have one MPEG-2 compression, and not the 2 that you will have. The quality is much higher.
2.) As stated above, DVR's, most similar machines and many software authoring programs do not follow the DVD-specs 100%. These results will give problems, and usually with the first VOB, which also contains Menus, etc. The use of an A-D bridge bypasses these problems, as all you have are the pure DV-AVI Type II files w/ nothing else included.
I am a big fan of the Canopus ADVC-300 A-D bridge, but their much less expensive unit, the ADVC-110, or the similar unit, the ADS Pyro AV Link, can do all that you would want. The only real advantage of their 300 model is with the Timebase corrections for color balance and gamma correction, plus other corrections. However, it's more expensive and all of those corrections can be done in PrE, though they do take some work and time. For me, being able to do them at the time of capture saves me time.
There are cheaper A-D units, like the Dazzle, but I don't know of anyone, who's ever gotten them to work. We get dozens of users with them each year. The vast majority throw those units into the trash and go with the Canopus, or the Pyro instead.
Good luck,
Hunt
Here is a recent FAQ addition on this subject.

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Nevermind, I got it working.
I ended up extracting the new vob within MPEG Streamclip, which gave me an m2v and an aiff audio. I multiplexed those two back together in FFMpegX which gave me a complete VIDEO_TS folder with BUP and IFO files I needed.

How do I convert a VOB file so I can use it in iMovie

A family member converted our old super 8 movies to dvd. It has narration but I just want to pull clips from it to make an iMovie. Is there software available for Mac users. I have iLife, iWork and CS3 installed. I also have a few other programs on my Mac at my work desk including Toast Shake Final Cut. I am new to this process I just don't know what I need to do make this work for me. I am hoping to have this for a surprise party in two weeks. Any Help is greatly appreciated!

Welcome to Apple discussions, fairy dogmother (gotta love that screen name).
The two best applications for exporting clips from VOBs are MPEG Streamclip and Miraizon's Cinematize. The advantage of these is that you can select and export just the parts you want. Toast can do the export and conversion but you can't select anything other than individual chapters or entire movies.

Vob Import Question in Premiere Pro CS4 4.1

Hello,
Prior to posting, I read numerous posts related to importing vob files in Premiere. None of them seemed to address the particular problem I am experiencing, and I was hoping to find an answer here in the forums. Here's what I am attempting to accomplish:
1) Export the vob files (there are 4 of them) from a commercial movie DVD to hard disk
2) Import the vob files into a Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 project
3) Build a sequence out of the 4 vob files
4) Replace the sound in two very short segments to eliminate profane language so that my children may watch the movie
5) Import the sequence into Encore CS4 and burn a standard DVD
I was successful in all of the above steps 1-5. So what's the problem? I noticed, when viewing the output DVD, that at a certain point (only a single point) in the movie, the sound was garbled and the frames got 'wonky' (a technical term I picked up from Deke McClelland). My first assumption, was that I had messed something up somewhere in my editing process. When I navigated to the problematic time in my Premiere project, I saw that there was a problem in that at a certain point, the video would flicker, after which the audio would be out of sync with the video and would remain so until the end of the sequence. If instead, I simply navigated within the sequence to a few seconds past where the problematic frames seemed to be, all would be well (audio and video in sync). So, this means to me, that at the point where the problematic frames seem to be, Premiere has trouble interpreting them, and from that point on, the sequence is affected. If the seemingly problematic frames are skipped, then Premiere does not enter its bad state.
The next troubleshooting step was to start afresh, and see if the problem existed prior to making any edits to the sequence (i.e. steps 1-3 above). The problem still existed.
The next troubleshooting step was to see if a media player exhibited the same behavior as Premiere. So I took the same vobs and viewed them with Windows Media Player 11. There was no problem viewing the exact same vob in Media Player 11 that essentially is not viewable in Premiere Pro CS4 4.1. Hmm.
The next troubleshooting step was to see if an encoding program would exhibit the same behavior as Premiere. I imported the same vobs into TmpEnc, and when viewing them, no problems were exhibited.
Although not conclusive, it appears that there is a bug in Premiere Pro CS4 4.1.
Another problem that I noticed with vobs, is that sometimes, Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 does not recognize the proper frame rate of a standard DVD vob file, e.g. given 5 vobs that comprise a single movie, the first vob is shown as simply a video file (i.e. no audio at all) @ 29.97 fps in the Project panel, but the subsequent 4 vobs are recognized correctly as having both audio and video @ 23.976 fps. As before, I validated that the apparently problematic vob (from the Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 point of view) renders/plays perfectly fine in other applications (i.e. no audio or video problems). I attempted to use 'Interpret Footage' to rectify the problem with the vob, and when I type in 23.976 fps, it takes it, but then displays in the Project panel as 23.98 fps. It didn't fix the problem, but I was wondering if diplaying 23.976 as 23.98 (as opposed to 23.976 which is shown for the non-problematic vobs) is another problem.
Thanks much for any and all help,
Matt
My system specs, if needed:
OS - Vista Ultimate SP2, x64, fully updated
CPU - Xeon e5440 x 2
RAM - 16 Gb
Master Collection CS4 with all updates installed

Welcome to the forum.
Now, you have several problems, but most are with your choice of equipment and your workflow, not your choice of an NLE.
I took a wedding video from 1990 on a VCR tape and turned it to digital via a Dazzle hardware unit that plugs into the computer. It gives me vob files with no menus or anything like that
Few people have ever been able to get a Dazzle to work. This is true, even with the Pinnacle software, that often comes with it. It is an AVID product now, as they bought Pinnacle, and if you can get it to work at all, you are ahead of 99% of all owners. Stop by the Pinnacle fora and type in Dazzle. You will get the idea quickly.
A far better workflow would be to use a VHS player, hooked to an A-D device, like the Canopus/Grass Valley 110, or their 300. Use the Edius software that comes with it, to Capture DV-AVI Type II files w/ 48KHz 16-bit Audio. There will be zero OOS issues.
Most other equipment and workflows are kludges and seldom work at any level.
A good workman does not blame his tools. He might blame his choice of tools, but not the tools. Unfortunately, you chose a piece of hardware that doesn't usually work with the included software, and are blaming a great NLE program, because you are trying to work with horribly bad footage.
Please do yourself a favor. Donate the Dazzle to Goodwill, and look at the Canopus/Grass Valley 110. The price differential is not that great, and you will keep all of your hair.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS just did 34 VHS tapes via the above suggestions (some LP and some EP), and got many hours of usable footage. Not one glitch. No OOS. Every file edited perfectly in PrPro and I delivered 15 DVD-5's, that the client loved. I paid for a Canopus 300 with just my time on one project.
PPS, please see my post #5 for a link to an article on VOB files.
Message was edited by: the_wine_snob Added PPS

VOB's and DV-AVI in Premiere Pro

Hi Folks!
Well I'm still tooling around with Premiere and I have a question for the Adobe Jedis. I've been reading on line that DV-AVI is the best format to work with in Premiere Pro. I work mostly with VOBs, de-noising rough video, fixing up VCD and VHS rips of materials I have, or doing color correction on DVD's. There's info like this that I've been reading:
http://www.mathesonbayley.com/article_vobs_to_dv_avi.php
He writes:
"The format you need to convert your VOBs to for use in Premiere Pro is "DV Avi. Anything else is inferior."
On the forums, I've read this in the Elements FAQ
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317
He writes:
"A good rule of thumb is that, whenever possible, you should use DV-AVIs as your video source."
And there's this thread titled "Getting your files into DV-AVI format"
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/473041
Here it says that "the advice I’ve received on the forum suggests the best file format to edit in is DV-AVI Type II."
This all has me wondering if I should be converting my VOBs to DV-AVI Type II files in something MPEG streamclip, and then editing and exporting them as an MPEG2-DVD format? I think working with VOBs is okay, but now I'm not sure. Any advice would be really appreciated!
Thanks!
Howard

howard.z your best bet is to take the video out of a DVD player via one of the analog connections, and then use a Canopus ADVC-300 or other hardware DV converter (or if you're able to import via an uncompressed converter, such as the Matrox MX02). You need to get rid of the MPEG codec and capture an uncompressed video.
I remember years ago I had this same issue, and I kept ending up with exported video that looked like it came from a SLP VHS recording. Whenever I need to go from (especially consumer) MPEG format (i.e. MicroMV, miniDVD) to a file, I always drop the video to analog (S-Video or Component, but I've also brought it in via composite for my resume reel when I'm including video from DVD's that I've recorded off the air of productions that I've done at the local cable company where I volunteer, since I record those off of analog cable and I find I get a cleaner picture when I drop the image back down to composite), and it is the only way that I can get a high quality video transfer, otherwise the I get a recompressed pile of garbage. You have to remember that with DV you have a constant bit rate of 25 Mbps, whereas with DVD MPEG/VOB your bit rate is usually averages around 5.0 Mbps, 1/5 of DV's bit rate. By dropping to analog you are removing that MPEG codec and are capturing an uncompressed image.

VOB files are missing footage that's on the DVD

Hi all,
I'm putting together a memorial film. The family gave me all their home movies that have been put on DVDs. I'm using MPEG streamclip to convert the VOB files to DV files that I can import and edit in iMovie (or FCP).
Here's my problem: The VOB files are missing footage that I can absolutely see when I play the DVD. I've tried exporting the files to AVI and .mov files but the result is the same.
Can someone help me figure out how to access that missing footage? It's very strange.
Thanks!

David--great idea--thank you! Unfortunately the result is the same. I am beginning to wonder if the DVD wasn't what's that called...finished? properly. There it all is on the TV but I have not figured out anything, despite great ideas and strategies that would give me a different result.
Thanks again!

Convert .VOB file to edit in FCPX

Can anyone please suggest the best way to convert a .vob file to edit in Final Cut Pro X? I read that Mpeg Streamclip was the business, but when I load the .vob file, it appears only as a sound file with no video. The .vob is definately a video file. I also get a message about Apple Quicktime Mpeg-2 playback component is not installed. It says I have to buy this part, but I haven't read anything about needing this. Maybe I do.
Besides "how", also what is the best format to convert to for editing in FCPX?
Thanks!

Tom Wolsky wrote:
Frokm the MPEG Streamclip web site
The installer of the MPEG-2 Playback Component may refuse to install the component in Lion and Mountain Lion. Apple states the component is unnecessary in Lion and Mountain Lion, however MPEG Streamclip still needs it.
To install the component in Lion or Mountain Lion, please download MPEG Streamclip 1.9.3b8 betaabove; inside the disk image you will find the Utility MPEG2 Component M. Lion: use it to install the MPEG-2 Playback Component in Lion or Mountain Lion. The original installer's disk image (QuickTimeMPEG2.dmg) is required.
The current versions of MPEG Streamclip cannot take advantage of the built-in MPEG-2 functionality of Lion and Mountain Lion. For MPEG-2 files you still need to install the QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback Component, which is not preinstalled in Lion and Mountain Lion. You don't have to install QuickTime 7.
Thanks, I downloaded and installed the beta from Squared5.com. However,when I run the Utility MPEG2 Component M.Lion, I get a dialog "Please double-click the file QuickTimeMPEG2.dmg to open the quicktime MPEG2 disk image".
How/where do I get the QuickTimeMPEG2.dmg? e.g., trusted site. Do I need to purchase the MPEG-2 Playback Component from the Apple Online Store?

Generic error VOB files

I have recently copied videos onto a sony DVD recorder and from there, burnt them onto a DVD in VOB format. From the DVDs. I have transferred them onto a laptop. The problem is, when i attempt to import them into adobe premiere elements 12 the first 2 VOB files give a "generic error". Here is the full error:
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
The importer reported a generic error.
I believe that this may be caused by the menu in the files as they both have a blue video selection menu.
Is there any other way to import these files because they contain the first few minutes of our films!

vwsprocket
Thanks for the additional details.
After all the steps from source to Premiere Elements, it is interesting to note that you say your only problem is a few seconds of missing footage which you believe is in the VTS_01_1.VOB video file.
From my perspective, the VIDEO_RM here and often the Audio_TS are useless Folders. It is those video files in the VIDEO_TS Folder that are of consequence.
I found this informative article on VIDEO_RM and its possible shortcomings.
VIDEO_RM - AfterDawn: Glossary of technology terms & acronyms
Could you compile the following information?
Are you using Add Media/Files and Folders/....assuming for now, yes
When you go to Premiere Elements Add Media/Files and Folders, what are the specific names of all the files that you ask the Add Media to gather?
Right now I would like to know details on the etc when you wrote
- VTS_01_1.VOB
- VTS_01_2.VOB
ect...
My target is only VIDEO_TS Folder and its video files. The VIDEO_RM Folder and its contents are of no consequence in this import.
There are instances where the significant video files start in the group VTS_02_1 VOB and not VTS_01_1.VOB. Therefore, if you have not already, I need for you to check out the contents of each of those video files for content and sequence of content.
But backing up a little, what happens if you take the DVD-VIDEO on DVD you produced (before you copied anything to the laptop) and insert that DVD disc into the burner tray and open Premiere Elements Add Media/DVD camera and computer hard drive/Video Importer and just selected the VTS_01_1.VOB and its files in the series of 0.99 GB files? Have you been there and done that?
I do not want to distract from the above, but I will note that I will address the matter of an Audio_TS Folder. That is an easy one to address if it is absolutely necessary to have. Typically, nothing needs to be in the Audio_TS Folder. An empty Audio_TS Folder seems to meet some sort of compatibility matter between disc and player.
Please review. I want to make sure that we are in sync on the troubleshooting information.
Thank you.
ATR

Peak bitrate of the exported VOB files change radically

I have tested with Bitrate Viewer my timeline's .m2v file, its peak bitrate is a bit under 8.7Mbits. The project has one subtitle track, and two ac3 audio tracks (2.0 track is 320kbps (Encore encodes the 2.0) and 5.1 is 448kbps). So, as making peak bitrate calculations the maximum bitrate should not exceed 9.8Mbits, right? Still, when I'm viewing the exported DVD Folder with Bitrate Viewer, VTS_01_1.VOB has a peak bitrate of 12723 bits. In that VOB the average bitrate is around 7500bits as it should and mostly max. 8.2Mbits. How is this possible that there is this single super peak in the VOB?
PS. Did another test, I changed the 2.0 AC3 track (which Encore encodes) to a previously AC3 encoded track my client provided me, now two of the VOBs have these super peaks as:
VTS_01_1.VOB - 11010 bits
VTS_01_5.VOB - 13486 bits
What is the logic?

Mick.
Whilst there is nothing to actually prevent you from using a 320kbps stereo AC3 stream at all, I was only referring to
i Encore's
encoding to AC3 stereo being 192kbps. AFAIK (I do not have a copy of the specs in front of me so cannot be 100% certain here) the specs merely state that the maximum bitrate for AC3 is 448kbps. The general consensus rate for stereo is 192, and Encore's Automatic transcoding uses this value. It is certainly possible to use the whole 448 in stereo, assuming your encoder is capable of this. I have even seen surround 5.1 streams authored to DVD-Video at 640kbps in clear violation of the specs (Pink Floyd's "Pulse" Live album did this) which is complete stupidity. WHy not simply add a half-bitrate DTS stream? Ask Sony, I guess. But again I digress, and wander OT. Sorry about that.
If your client is providing you with 320kbps streams for stereo, this ought to work just fine. But your original post did heavily imply that Encore was doing the encoding for these streams, hence my comment.
>(2.0 track is 320kbps (Encore encodes the 2.0)
As far as Replication houses rejecting masters goes, this is a whole can of small, pink wriggly things all of it's own, and the blunt fact of the matter is that replication houses
i almost never bother to correctly verify the actual streams in your Video_TS.
At best they will run the DDP files through the Eclipse system, and as all the various warnings are user-settable, what they will flag as an error is very much a case of pot luck. About the only way I know of to absolutely validate & verify your streams is to use the MEI DVD-Video Verification tool in combination with the full DVD-Video specifications, or else use a service such as Trai Forresters to get the job done for you. See http://www.dvdverification.com/public/157.cfm for a complete description of these services as well as a very good explanation as to why this is a good idea.
To summarize, Replication companies do not verify your data. They do NOT, repeat NOT check your data for DVD-Video spec compliance. What they will do is run the
i image
through Eclipse, and may or may not act on the warnings & errors it flags. Odds are very high that unless you are using
A - A very reputable replicator, or
B - One that actually gives a damn (rare these days) then whatever happens - unless the eclipse warnings are flagged as FAIL errors, with the ABORT recommendation (and even this is user definable too) then they will most likely still press whatever you send them, and when it all goes pear shaped they will blame you. An image that passes Eclipse does not necessarily comply to the DVD-Video specifications. That is your job as the authoring house.
Having said that, I would be extremely wary of attaching total reliance to any freeware utility in this matter. However, it would seem that there is a doubt over the true maximum bitrate of your stream, and this may well cause playability problems in some players. Not all, as not all DVD players are created equally, sad to say.
I strongly suspect I have just scared the willies out of you now. That was not my intention, and I apologise if this is what has happened.
Let me try to go into some more details here without repeating verbatim what you can go & read for yourself on Trai's website about this. In the earlier days of this game, replicators were a lot fewer in number, Eastern Europe, Asia & China had not got into the game, margins had not been cut to the bone to stay open & operational, and discs got checked & verified a hell of a lot better than is common these days. Problem is it can get bloody expensive. Deadlines loom, clients start getting twitchy, but the accountants keep wanting more & more for less & less and threaten to move contracts around of they do not get "discounted services". So companies start to cut corners.
But again I digress and wander, and again I apologise. Most of this information in this post will be irrelevant to your project, and will not be anything to worry about.
The point of making this post was not to scare the bejesus out of you, but to point out that you simply cannot rely on the replication house to tell you if your streams are out of spec - they simply will not do that any more than they will flag VOB errors in the navigation code either. This is just not something they ever check.
The problem is that all authoring packages - there are no exceptions here at all and some are worse than others (with Apple's DVDSP being one of the worst offenders) - interpret the DVD specifications in their own manner, and can easily produce non compliant streams. If you are worried about a video file, you need to either triple check that file, or else re-encode it.
Let's look at the numbers on your files again, just to be certain I have got all this correct.
2 Audio Streams. 320 & 448 = 768kbps.
1 Video Stream, VBR, Peak to 8700kbps.
If this is correct, IMHO you are pushing your luck somewhat. That adds to 9468kbps, leaving zip overshoot room for any unexpected spikes in the bitstream caused by sudden shifts in the material - and in 2-pass VBR this
i will
happen more often than you think.
What are you writing your master to, please? (I really want to hear "DLT Tape" and not "DVD-R Disc" here as well)
How long is the video stream?
What is the average bitrate of your video file as set? If the target is as stated, 7500, I would forget all about using VBR here and encode to a fixed bitrate (assuming you have the space to do this, I would set the CBR to around 7,000 maybe 7500 and master to DLT, as at that bitrate a written disc may choke in players anyway, regardless of stream spec compliance.
One final thing - and this comes from personal experience too - is to use the best MPEG-2 encoder you can get your hands on. MainConcept is okay for a lot of things, but it struggles in certain circumstances.
It
i can
also give peaks that are well outside what you
i think
you have set as your upper limit.
You mention that you used MPEG Validator. BUT - and this is a biggie - if one says PASS and the other (Bitrate Viewer, which is no longer being developed either, so is way out of date) says FAIL, I would look for confirmation somewhere down the line. MPEG Validator will - and I am sure you already know this - only validate the streams in PAL, not NTSC. There are varying reports as to how accurate it really is.

Strange problem with linking to external vob-file

I have a strange problem with linking to external vob-file. I
have created a link using BudApi:
on mouseup
set OK = baOpenFile ( the pathname &
"Files\General\Video\VTS_01_1.VOB", "normal")
end
This code opens mpg-videos correctly, but nothing happens
when I try to open vob-files with the same code. The strangest
thing is that when I change the default program for vob-files to
WinDVD this code works and the file opens, but when I change the
default program to Nero Showtime this code doesn't do anything
(when I open the file 'manually' from the folder, it opens
correctly on Nero Showtime). My client uses Nero Showtime, so I
really would appreciate any help on this one.

temes wrote:
>
quote:
Originally posted by:
Newsgroup User
>> When using Nero Showtime as a default program, the
error code is 31,
>> "There is no application associated with the given
filename".
>
> Which suggests that something has gone wrong with file
associations.
> If
> you double-click one of these files in an Explorer
window does it fire
> up Showtime and open the file?
>
>
> Yes, the file opens correctly in Nero Showtime when
double-clicking
> it in an Explorer. I tried the file associations and
created a
> html-page with a link to the vob-file, and the html-link
opens the
> vob-file correcly with Nero Showtime. My client reported
this
> problem, so it's not just my computer which is having
this problem.
If you open a command prompt, do you get an association
listed like this
example for .txt files:
C:\>assoc .txt
.txt=txtfile
C:\>ftype txtfile
txtfile="D:\Program Files\JGsoft\EditPadLite\EditPadLite.exe"
"%1"
Andrew

??? Import VOB files

I have some raw footage from a company that shot a commercial for me. I want to import it into FCE and it won't let me. Can i do that? i have no idea what they used to import off of thier camera, all it tells me about the files on the DVD they gave me is normal DVD files, i.e. .VOB, .IFO, .BUP...etc. Any ideas? I am assuming they created an actual DVD out of the files, which i told them not to so i think i am screwed! I am trying to open this so i can edit it a bit and then make a dvd out of it. Just gives me the normal error file unknown like anything else i try to import that i didn't convert or import from camera myself. Any help would be much appreciated. Pretty new with FCE so don't know everything it can do.
g5 dual 2.5 Mac OS X (10.4.4)
g5 dual 2.5 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

FCE handles only DV files. What your clients did was make an MPEG2 DVD
You have to convert the DVD to the DV format. You can use a program like DVDxDV (it costs but not a lot) to do the conversion or program like MPEG Streamclip (its free but you have to buy the Apple MPEG Playback component)
Or, you could daisy chain a DVD player thru a DV cam into the puter (use analog cables from the DVD player to the cam and firewire from the cam to the puter) and capture into FCE
No matter what method you use, there will be quality loss, especially when you encode back to DVD
The other alternative: Have them create a data DVD from the footage or BEST ALTERNATIVE have them give you the footage on DV tape

VOB has sound but no picture (gulp!)

Hi
I have transferred a video tape to a DVD and it has come across as five .VOB files.
I can load the last four into Adobe Premiere Elements 7 but the first produces the message 'This type of file is not supported, or the required codec is not installed'. This is trange as the other four work fine. I truied renaming the file to a .mpg file and the same message occurs. When I play the file in Windows media player it play with sound but no picture.
Can anyone shed any light on this please?

Rory,
Good luck with the pass-through on the videocam. That should work fine. The one hesitation that I have is that many mfgrs. omitted pass-through on their PAL models, as most of Europe have a higher VAT on a camera with it. Seems that legally it is declared as being another type of device, and the tariffs were higher. Many NTSC versions of the same camera did have that capability, but the same one for PAL-land did not. Now, many mfgrs. are just omitting it completely, to save $ with that circuitry, especially in light of the PAL tariff issues. Some have found that just picking up a used NTSC version has worked fine - they do not use it to shoot, but only as an A-D bridge with the pass-through. Hope that yours works perfectly, and that it will fill the bill.
As for the OZ whites, I have only encountered one, the Penfolds Yaterna, that did anything for me. In very general terms, I find the whites from NZ much more interesting. Now, I do find them to be great "sippers," but the herbaceousness and the grapefruit notes seem to get in the way with food. Still, a Cloudy Bay SB is such a great Summer wine (in AZ, USA, we need "Summer wines," about 9 mos. out of the year!). I love that grapefruit, though my wife is less a fan. She is also more enamored by a bigger French Chard, than almost any SB.
I had maintained many, many years ago, that NZ was going to be a PN center. That is being realized now. However, I do have to keep looking hard to find them. Some California restaurants are starting to explore them on their wine lists, but with some of the recently developing areas in CA doing some great PN's (Santa Barbara, Santa Rita, Central Coast and Napa/Sonoma in the Carneros AVA), it is a battle - lot of good PN's out there, as soon as one gets over the US$ 25-30/btl. range. I have yet to really see the value of PN's much below that price point. Probably some out there, but they are few and far between.
Here is an ongoing Shiraz THREAD in the Adobe Video Lounge. Here is an older THREAD on PN's from there. Here is a short Syrah THREAD. Some good discussions in the Lounge. In a similar tone, I am in a Photoshop/photography thread on Chowhound. It started with the question - what camera to do food photography. Along the way, one poster came out bashing Photoshop, and then went on to bash Photoshop Elements. I could not let THAT go on, so have been trying to stem the flow of mis-information being spewed in that thread. Now, I am not saying that Photoshop Elements is an end-all, be-all, or that it might not be too advanced for some, but when one basically says, "all I need to do is resize my images, and I recommend that no one buy PS, or PSE," I cannot sit still. Might not be the right programs for that poster, but such negative blanket statements will not go by without a challenge, at least from me. I know that the MOD's are probably watching me closely there, as PS is not really about A camera, though can be closely related to the product from A camera.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS - Steve G. will probably banish me to the Video Lounge for dragging this thread OT, but that happens to me all the time. At least they removed that dusty plastic plant in the corner - the one that they always make me sit in, until I promise to be good.

VOB to AVI using Auto GK Software; But won't perform correctly in CS4

Hello. I purchased Premiere CS4 because someone in the Adobe marketing dept. told me I could get DVD footage into it. For a year now I have been working with it and can get my digital footage into it and work with it fine. I found out after I purchased it that VOB files must be turned into avi files in order to use the footage in CS4. So, I found and downloaded the Auto GK (auto gourdian kot?) free software and successfully converted the files (which are actually my parents priceless 8mm Reel to Reel footage from the 50s-60s that I had transferred to DVD). This R2R footage on DVD is a primary component of the music videos I'm trying to make for them. Anyway, I can watch these 'vob converted to avi' files on my computer (Windows XP, 250 GB hard drive w/ 2 external hard drives, 3 GB RAM...no problem w/computer) AND can import into CS4, but then they don't perform well in CS4...I can only see thumbnail and might play for a second really fast and then stop, or won't play at all, so they are useless in there even though I can import them. I know I have settings wrong somewhere, but don't know if its in CS4, or in the VOB to avi software. Can someone help me? I watched some of the tutorials in the CS4 help section, and one 'teacher' said, "...and if you need to import DVDs, you can do that too." But then he doesn't tell you how to do it and I can't find anything on the subject. Any help will be appreciated. Do other video editing programs make it easier to import DVD footage? My parents are old...I can't wait too much longer...it's been a year I've been trying to do this. Thank you, Claudia Barrington

See:
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Can't link to .vob files I've already imported... (CS4.2)

I do have CS4.2 installed.
I recently had to reinstall Windows7 (changed versions), so I also had to reinstall CS4
Anyhow, I had created a project and imported some .vob files into it, edited, etc. BUT now when I go back to that project, Premiere tells me that the files are an unsupported format?!
Can someone help me figure out what might have happened? Or what I can do instead so I don't have to re-edit the whole thing?
Thanks all,
Aza

Aza,
Sounds like your full-paid version of PrPro has reverted to the trial. This happens too often.
As a test, grab either an MPEG AV file, or even an MP3, and try to Import that. Same issue?
If so, you will want to look to see if you can Deactivate your copy, but feel that it will be grayed out.
Then, uninstall PrPro, and then run Adobe Clean Script CS4 several times, rebooting between each. Then, reinstall PrPro, and update to CS4.2, before you do anything else.
Things should be back to normal. As I say, this has happened too often, but there has been no definitive cause.
Good luck,
Hunt

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