VTx on MSI P43-Neo3 FR (1.0) and Intel Core 2 Duo E7400

Good day guys...
I was trying to develop (beginner) on Android and I was using this machine for it. Well, the Android SDK has the Intel HAXM bundled with it, it's for VTx-feature of Intel.
Now, I know Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 is on the list that has VTx, but when I run the Intel HAXM installer, it detects that it was not supported. After a few clicks on google, there is somewhat a setting on the BIOS that would enable the use of VTx...
And that's why I asked here, is there something in P43-Neo3 that makes VTx disable or was it not supported?
*BTW, using XP Pro SP3 on this machine...

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I know Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 is on the list that has VTx
It kind of depends on the exact version:
http://ark.intel.com/products/36500/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E7400-(3M-Cache-2_80-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB)#ordering
Intel says: "See SPEC Details" which forces is to look here:
http://ark.intel.com/products/36500/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E7400-(3M-Cache-2_80-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB)#orderingretired
Three versions of the E7400 are mentioned:
LGA775      65 W   BX80571E7400   SLB9Y   VTx: No
LGA775      65 W   BX80571E7400   SLGQ8   VTx: No
LGA775      65 W   BX80571E7400   SLGW3   VTx: Yes
We need to make sure, that you have the third version first.
What is your current BIOS Version, by the way?

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CPU INTEL|C2D E8400 3G 775 45N R
Can you check the sSpec number of that processor to find out if it is the C0 or the E0-Revision?
Please have a look at the board's BIOS Chip to find out the factory BIOS Version:
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I'm not sure if this board can beep without an external speaker ( I saw a header for one, but I don't have a cpu speaker), so I don't know if I'm actually getting a POST code or not. Any ideas?
You can only find out when you actually connect a speaker to the pin header's speaker pins. Doesn't your case have an integrated speaker that you can hook up to the pins?

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