*wait in BPM

In my Scenario I have to send the consolidate details of 2 files and sent it to other file.using correlation
For the first time I am getting sucess in SXMB_MONI but after a wait time(which i mentioned as 1 minute for both ) i am getting an error in the outbound.
Please clarify.
Thanks,
SrinivasP

Hi,
why do you use a wait step?
use a fork that will wait for 2 messages (fork step properties)
try not to use wait step in BPM
Regards,
michal
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