Want to upgrade from snow leopard to lion, need to purchase an external harddrive to b/u my stuff. will formating for snow leopard be ok when uploading to the new system (lion)?

oh sorry, I thought that was where we put the question I am on an extremely tight budget, but since I do shift work, I wanted to use the iCloud funciton to keep my calendars uptodate on my pc/mac mini/and iphone. Wish there were a way to do it for free on my snow and snow leopard OS, but sinc e I cannot, I am wondering about formatting the external harddrive (which I have to purchase). If I format for the snow leopard, will there be a problem re installing the information into the new snow leopard OS machine? Also, I am wondering about the older Mac Pro I have that is the OS before snow leopard (Snow, I believe) will I be able to use this same HD for backing it up to upgrade it (at a later date)?
Thank you for your help.
Deb

so sorry, I mean uploading information from the back up (ex HD) onto the new Snow Lion OS. (and later doing the same with the Mac Pro which is the system before snow leopard.) TY

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