WE8MSWIN1252 && AL32UTF8

Hi
My current 10g database has WE8ISO8859P1 character set. I want to install a fresh 11g database and use exp/imp utility to move the data.
I notice that WE8ISO8859P1 is not available in 11g hence I have to use WE8MSWIN1252.
We have some chinese characters in the database therefore I am not sure whether I should use WE8MSWIN1252 or unicode (AL32UTF8)
What is the disadvantage of using WE8ISO8859P1 as the database character set and using AL16UTF16 as the National character set ?
In this case we will need to use Nchar datatype to store chinese characters
Thanks in advance

Hi;
pelase check your other thread
Re: character set 11g
Regard
Helios

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    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_LIST_TEMPLATES|SUB_LIST_ITEM                12                0                0
    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_LIST_TEMPLATES|SUB_LIST_ITEM                12                0                0
    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_LIST_TEMPLATES|SUB_TEMPLATE_                12                0                0
    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_LIST_TEMPLATES|SUB_TEMPLATE_                12                0                0
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    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_PROCESSING|PROCESS_SQL_CLOB                 45                0                0
    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_ROW_TEMPLATES|ROW_TEMPLATE1                 54                0                0
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    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_TEMPLATES|FOOTER_TEMPLATE                   64                0                0
    APEX_030200.WWV_FLOW_TEMPLATES|HEADER_TEMPLATE                   64                0                0
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