Web-app scoped security policies not working in WL 8

Hi,
I can't get web-app scoped security policies working in WL 8.1
I have a simple web application. It defines a role(ROLE) and security
constraint (on *.jsp).
If I examine the web app in the administration console, I see that it
has created a role (scoped to /*) called "ROLE" just as you would
expect. It has also created a scoped policy (to *.jsp) with constraints
that the user be in the role ROLE. This is as expected, and it works.
However, if I proceed to create my own scoped policy (on *.html) with
constraints (on ALL methods) that the user be in role ROLE, then I get
no security at all. ie. I can go to server:port/foo.html and it will
work - it is not secured.
Any ideas?
On a completely unrelated issue, when I deploy an EAR (exploded) with a
WAR (exploded) and using the admin console expand the application
correpsonding to th EAR, right click on the WAR node, and try and define
a scoped role, then I get an error "There are no appropriate RoleEditor
providers configured". This sounds like a bug. Trying to define a
scoped policy works as expected.
TIA,
Jon

I can't get web-app scoped security policies working in WL 8.1Well, I can answer this one myself.
WebLogic 8 has a new optimisation (this wasn't present in 7 AFAIK),
available on the Security / Realm / myreal / General tab, which
determines whether or not weblogic considers authorisation of resources
protected by descriptors or not. (ie. it can force only
descriptor-protected authorisation, ignoring admin console policies).
It defaults to ignoring admin console policies, hence my problem.
Jon

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