What about MS Access VBA where does that go?

Hello Folks newbie here,
This is the closest form that matched my needs. New to Oracle. Have around 4+ yrs with Access. Access has reached some limitations hence I downloaded Oracle Xpress Edition ("Access on steriods" as the white paper calls it). Well if thats the case then I hope somebody can point me in the right direction.
I'm looking to re-design my current desktop app. into Web App. My current Access / Excel / VBA is a legacy system. The Web interface part required is having Excel Spreadsheets viewed, edited online and any changes would go back to the Oracle Express edtion DB.
I think moving the access tables to Oracle is pretty straight forward. What about all the VBA modules where do those go?
Well hope to hear back.
Steve ---
TORONTO, CANADA.

-I think moving the access tables to Oracle is pretty straight forward. What about all the VBA modules where do those go?
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