What about scrap generated dooring Subcontracting Process

Hi all
Good Morning
In Subcontracting Process(i am sending Components to vendor).What about Scrap generated, how can i enter dooring Migo - Goods Receipt
Regards
Manju

hi
frist ly u have to maintain the scrap quantity in -ve value in the subcon po then do the normal process of gr and at time of gr give the actual quantity of the scrap
but at this stage the system will show the scrap quantity to the subcon stock ,so to make it to own stock do following
1.
Scrap
What kind of scrap we are speaking about?
a) If you pay the scrap you can get rid of it by MB1A + 551 + 'O' directly from SC vendor's special stock (I mean you can scrap the raw material (subcon-component)).
b) If the scrap was delivered by your to SC vendor via MVT 541 you can use MB1B + 542 to bring it back. It may happen that the raw material was delivered by one of your other vendors to your SC vendor (in this case the goods got to the special stock via MVT 101 O) - if the situation is this you can create a return delivery (MIGO + PO reference + MVT 122) and ask for replacement. You can also use MB1A + 551 + 'O' or MB1B + 542 - it depends how you want to handle the situation from business point of view.
2.
by-product
You write the by-product with negative qty in the BOM or directly into the component list of the subcon-PO (item level, material data 'tab' in ME2*N). This will be booked by 545 to special stock and if you want to receive this material you can use MB1B + 542.
the simple process steps are
1> create a bom tcode cs01 and mention the components and the scrap material but with -ive quantity
2> creaet a info record with the subcontracting category tcode me11
3> create a po with item category L tcode me21n
4> do the good reciept tcode migo
5> do the subsequent adjustment tcode migo but the display variant should be subsequnet adjustment
6> do the gr of scrap tcode mb1b movement type 542
7> do the invoice
regards
kunal
award if helpful
Edited by: kunal ingale on Aug 9, 2008 7:45 AM

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