What do you NOT like about Oracle Portal?

Using a theme from a post on AskTom, I thought I would start one that details what customers don't like about Portal.
I've got a few:
PPE
When load balancing, it forces us to use NAT in the load balancer. Extra configuration, extra time, etc.
Java or MOD_PLSQL?
Mod_plsql has been around for a long time. It is robust and stable but a simple Dad for Portal is a mix of Java and Mod_plsql. It is not nearly as clean and stable as a mod_plsql application.
SSO
SSO should be part of the middle tier, not the Infrastructure. It just adds another hop and another thing to manage.
PTLConfig
ssoreg is for SSO registration of Partner applications. Easy enough. But wait, it doesn't work for Portal. You have to run ptlconfig for it.
SSL configuration
Wow, what a pain. A Java application or Mod_plsql application is easy to configure for SSL. Not true with Portal.
OC4J Portal In Process
Showing the status with opmnctl won't show in-process things like Portal. It can only be seen in OEM.
Explicit Path
In the HTML Portal generates, it has the full path to everything. I tried just changing the hostname in the httpd.conf file but that doesn't work either. We used setup.exe OUI_HOSTNAME= to change the host name of an install which works ok. When using multiple middle tiers, you have to use the real host name for each server and then use a VirtualHost all because Portal uses the full path instead of a relative path.
Migration of code
Portal doesn't really support the idea of multiple environments which every large company (which is a big part of Oracle's customer base) uses. Migrating a page group with all content from Test to QA isn't something built in like it should be.
I've got some more complaints about Forms, Reports, Discoverer, and SSO but this is just about opportunities for Portal.

heh. why so negative?
what about a thread about what you LIKE about Portal :-)

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[11.2.1|http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E14571_01/portal.1111/e10239/cg_imex.htm#CCJBCCGD] System Requirements
Before exporting and importing content, ensure that your system meets the minimum system requirements, as described in this section.
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resembles HTML Templates from the Portal world. Can
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component to each page? And what if I have several
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Dear All
I am 30 years old Engineer, I have been using SonnyErricson P900 for 3 years Which is one of the nice touch screen mobile. Afterwards it broke done and not working any more, I decieded to move back to Nokia 5800 touch screen, Espicically it came wil Sembian system (the same system I used before)
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Regards

1- there are no qiuck shortcut in the destop of the mobile like sound, network, battrery, all we can see but we can't go inside (the sound not available at all)
If you change the phone's home screen theme to "shortcuts" instead of the default "contacts" then you can add up to 4 shortcuts onto the home screen. Not quite what you want (I assume you're thinking more along the lines of android where you can drag just about anything onto the homescreen), but better than nothing.
2- there are not qiuck button to go back to the desktop, I have to keep pressing back several time to arrive to the point.
Just press the red "end call" button and you get taken straight back to the home screen.
3- the customization of the phone is too difficult and can't done in one step, I have to run everywhere to get the phone as the shape I want, In addition the phone is poor in programs which should be already installed.
I guess this might be region and/or network provider dependant. My 5800XM on UK Vodafone came preinstalled with quite a wide variety of applications. What wasn't there I could download and install easily.
4- the stylus design is nice but it should be inseted in one direction only cuz it is not rount but has angle.
Agreed, it's also a little flimsy. Having said that though, the number of times I've actually used the stylus I could probably count on one hand
5- there are not enough number of shortcut that could be set up to the destop (only 4) and no one told me that I can add more.
Personally I quite like the idea of the home screen being kept quite clean so the restriction to 4 doesn't bother me, but I guess that's a personal thing.
6- when the phone not working there are no save screen that shows the clock as example, It goes completlly black, which I considered not friendly ( I used to use my mobile as watch) and I didn't find any screen saver application.
You either have a blank screen and long(er) battery life or a screen with a clock/saver and shorter battery life I guess.
7- for the camera and other music stuff I am not too interesed but I was old that I can download music from nokia for free, I didn't try it.
The version of the 5800XM with the "comes with music" package hasn't been released yet as far as I know. At least not in the UK. It's worth noting that the "comes with music" edition of the phone will cost more than the standard version, since obviously Nokia have to recoup the cost of the license agreements with the media companies from somewhere :-)
8- when I navigate the internet I couldn't see the home page button and couldn't see the scroll bar, I don't know if they do it in purpose
The home page button is in the little window that opens up when you press the "3 lines" option button while surfing. It won't appear unless you've actually set a homepage of course. The scroll bar doesn't appear since it's a touch screen, you don't need the scroll bar, just drag the screen up/down/left/right with your finger.
9- is there any nice theme for this mobile or only the ugly black one.
Haven't looked.

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i am not sure how you get any kind of feedback from anyone ,without giving us members a very easy to be found feedback button to your great idea here.
instead we have to start a forum discussion amongst ourselves, instead with you directly !!!!!
do you NOT care about our wishes and ideas? .....it seems like it.......
this idea of yours would take off if you just open your eyes and ears to the needs of the market.
give us a "Feedback button" somewhere easy to find, in Bridge "AND" here on the site, right on top of your site.
and then do "NOT" forget to hire staff that actually deals with these feedbacks....
WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU DIRECTLY !!!!!!! DONT BLOW US OFF ON YOUR SITE !!!
by redirecting us around your website like a ping pong ball, in order to only find FORUMS...
thats just ridiculous!
sincerely,
akos
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203 EAST 7TH STREET
APT 4
NEW YORK, NY, 10009
TEL/FAX 212 982 4445
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wow, that about the worst response i would have ever expected from anyone.
your APD adobe photographers directory for example is none existing in the public market right now, mainly because your ad agency in london who is handling this departement, is not working on it.
it could be the most powerful database for us consumers who pay thousands of dollars for adobe products,
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well i've just bought it, does somebody have it for some time??? what can you tell me about it

I think Apple has really screwed this UP! You are correct,
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OracleAS Portal 10g: Build Corporate Portals
http://education.oracle.com/web_prod-plq-dad/plsql/show_desc.redirect?dc=D16648GC10&p_org_id=1001&lang=US&source_call=
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Thank you very much,
xtanto
Edited by: xtanto on Dec 2, 2008 6:49 PM
Edited by: xtanto on Dec 2, 2008 6:50 PM

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please listen to the podcasts or several statements of directions showing Oracle Product Strategy here.
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