What frame rate?

What frame rate & key frames settings should I export my HD video in? Any other setting suggestions to get the highest quality HD video would greatly be appreciated.

Hi
A. Can You set key-frame rate in iMovie'08 - Didn't know this. In FinalCut Yes.
I set same as project requires.
B. 25 fps = PAL interlaced for TV. 29.97 = NTSC for TV
For 720i and 720p resp 1080i or p - Don't know. My guess 25/50 or 29.97/60.
Yours Bengt W

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animation.
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I've looked at the specifications of both those cameras. Both record at 30 fps. I couldn't see any reference to settings for PAL versus NTSC.
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The Sony records video up to 640 x 480 resolution in MPEG-4 format at 30 fps, according to one review I looked at.
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studiojl wrote:...So as I understand it the camera will decide on FPS based off available light? ...
So you seem to correctly understand the information in the linked Use More Light! article.
studiojl wrote:... I don't like that at all...
Your emotion is irrelevant. It simply works the way Apple software is written. Perhaps some other computer system works different from Mac OS X and Apple camera apps?
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Greetings. I am new to Premiere Pro and also new to working with different frame rates in the same project. I am using footage from a Canon Vixia HF S10 and Flip video MinoHD.
The frame rate of the Canon .MTS files seems to be 60fps. The frame rate in the Flip .mp4 seems to be 24fps. In other projects in FCP, I've converted the .MTS files to Mp4, but I'm not sure if that is necessary in PP5.5.
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My timeline is...
A 24fps HD timeline in a Cineform Codec
My first SD Export was...
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Looks interlaced and squshed in QT Player and claims the file is 29.97fps
Looks interlaced but not squished in Windows Media Player unsure what frame rate it thinks it is.
Looks decent in my Premiere timeline and claims it is indeed 23.97fps
2nd Export I tried HD...Quicktime / HD 720p 24fps preset but changed aspect to 1920x1080 with Animation codec
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We are sending the most uncompressed SD version in 23.97fps for another person to author on their end with the compression that will accomodate the other tracks on the disc and get the best quality. We were told to send a QT file at 23.97 since the original file was a 24.0 fps project (nativly shot on 35mm film) BUT the file we exported at 23.97 to send as a test read as 29.97 outside of Premiere. If I can solve the annomally with the frame rate changing between Premiere and a QT Player window I will be a happy camper. Has anyone had issues with frame rates being messed up on export and not exporting as the setting you set it on?
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I really like the h.264 codec, but I have to use Quicktime Conversion, instead of QT Movie, when I export in FCP. I get a 'Codec Error' when I try to export as a QT Movie. That is the first problem, but I work around it.
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