What's the actual Airport Extreme-N speed?
Hey guys, I'm starting to think about getting one of those nice Airport Extreme (n) stations for all the nice features it has (printer and hdd usb port).
I'm also looking at other brands such as Netgear or Belkin. They seems to be very bold to state what are their max speeds whereas Apple (as far as I've seen) doesn't really say what's the max speed. Apple only says it runs as fast as 2.5x, but what is that? 135Mbps?
Does that make sense? One of the Netgear products I was looking at states it runs at up to 270 Mbps.
Anyway, I suppose I'll have to think about it, there's many things to consider yet such as the price (of course), the features others offer, and also the possibility of a new Aiport Express-N base station coming soon (just to benefit from the AirTunes feature). This last thing I don't know for sure since somehow I've got the feeling that the AppleTV seems to be the ultimate Airport Express.
Any input is welcomed and thanked for.
All of the above use multiple streams of data to get speeds of 300Mbps or higher. The approved 802.11n draft, in fact, spells out data rates as high as 600Mbps in some cases. 802.11n will also have backward compatibility with current Wi-Fi products. Metalink's Rude says, "That interoperability is a market requirement that's not questioned — it's a given." Chances are good (though not guaranteed) that such "Pre-N" products using the above chips will be software upgradeable to the final 802.11n standard when it's finalized.
These fiqures apply to all N Draft Wireless Routers. (ALL)
Don
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According to the FCC reports, there is a significant difference in the power output of the g/n radios at both 2.4 and 5ghz.
Follow the following links, then select the "Report" for each.
Previous Version...
http://goo.gl/B8PIu
Current Verison Version...
http://goo.gl/3yKRl
Previous model...
freqency range mode output power dbm output power watts
2412-2462 802.11b 24.57 286.42
2412-2462 802.11g 21.56 143.22
2412-2462 802.11n(ht20) 21.17 130.92
5745-5825 802.11a 23.07 202.77
5745-5805 802.11n(ht20) 22.17 164.82
5755-5795 802.11n(ht40) 21.44 139.32
New Version...
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2412-2462 802.11g 24.88 307.61
2412-2462 802.11n(ht20) 24.11 257.63
5745-5825 802.11a 25.14 326.59
5745-5805 802.11n(ht20) 25.28 337.29
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I had always understood that if you run N and G devices on a network, the N devices will run slower. So what I did was set up an old Airport to have a wireless for my iPhone and sad Windows PC guests in my house, and the previous generation Extreme for my MacBook Pro. My older airport is connected to an ethernet port on the Extreme. I might not even be doing this right.
Anyways, does the new Extreme keep the G and N networks separated, so that I can run my MacBook Pro on one wireless network and my iPhone on the other one? And by doing so the speed of the N is still as high as it can be?
I might be confusing this whole story, so any help you can give me would be great.1. The only way I know of without installing anything extra applications is to use Airport Utility, then connect to your Airport Extreme to see the statistics. It will show either "b/g/n" (2.4Ghz) or "a/n" (5Ghz).
2. Yes, 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz are actually two separate network on the Airport Extreme (and therefore separate collision domain if you know what I mean).
But then again, there is no way to set N-only network in the new Airport Extreme (I am using one of those now), let alone set N-only for 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz. This means that your 802.11a devices might still accidentally join the 5Ghz channel and slow downs everything. Unlike older models, you can not specify N-only on either of the channels.
Not a dealbreaker for me, but certainly should be improved on.
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Ok.. gottcha
The problem is network wise.. Yosemite is about equal to tin cans and string.. pathetic.
Here is my usual set of instructions to get anything working on Yosemite.
The best way to fix problems is a full factory reset of all the AE in the network.
Factory reset universal
Power off the AE.. ie pull the power cord or power off at the wall.. wait 10sec.. hold in the reset button.. be gentle.. power on again still holding in reset.. and keep holding it in for another 10sec. You may need some help as it is hard to both hold in reset and apply power. It will show success by rapidly blinking the front led. Release the reset.. and wait a couple of min for the AE to reset and come back with factory settings. If the front LED doesn’t blink rapidly you missed it and simply try again. The reset is fairly fragile in these.. press it so you feel it just click and no more.. I have seen people bend the lever or even break it. I use a toothpick as tool.
Then redo the setup from the computer with Yosemite.
1. Use very short names.. NOT APPLE RECOMMENDED names. No spaces and pure alphanumerics.
eg AEgen5 and AEwifi for basestation and wireless respectively.
Even better if the issue is more wireless use AE24ghz and AE5ghz with fixed channels as this also seems to help stop the nonsense.
2. Use all passwords that also comply but can be a bit longer. ie 8-20 characters mixed case and numbers.. no non-alphanumerics.
3. Ensure the AE always takes the same IP address.. this is not a problem for AE which is router.. it is a problem for AE which is bridged.. you will need to set static IP in the main router by dhcp reservations or use static IP in the AE which is tricky.
4. Check your share name on the computer is not changing.. make sure it also complies with the above.. short no spaces and pure alphanumeric..
5. Make sure IPv6 is set to link-local only in the computer. For example wireless open the network preferences, wireless and advanced / TCP/IP.. and fix the IPv6. to link-local only.
6. Now mount the disk of the second AE in finder... manually.
Use Go, Connect to Server and type in the AE ip address.
SMB://10.0.1.2
Where you will replace that address with the actual address. The network resource should be discovered and then it will request the password.. type that in and make sure you tick to save it in your keychain.
There is a lot more jiggery pokery you can try but the above is a good start.. if you find it still unreliable.. don't be surprised.
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1) We currently have an Airport Extreme version 7.6.4 in our home. What version of wireless is this running? How do we determine this?
2) How much speed will we gain if we upgrade to the newest version of the Airport Extreme which offers next-generation 802.11ac Wi-Fi technology (assuming that all of the portable devices in the house are upgraded as well to the newest technology)?
3) As part of this query, we have a Comcast modem that feeds straight into our current old Airport Extreme. To get any of the hoped for speed increases, would we have to do anything with this Comcast/Xfinity cable modem?
Sorry these are such basic questions that likely reflect my poor understanding of this technology. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!Last question first.
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The Internet connection speed on your network will not improve. That speed is limited by your modem and the plan that you have with your provider.
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The faster speeds will only help you if you are copying data from one computer to another or making backups of one device to another.
As mentioned previously, your Internet connection speeds will remain the same that they are now.
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I've got an Airport Extreme that is older, I think it was the first model after the old snow-globe styled ones. This one is a rectangular box in design, probably 4-5 years old.
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I've read that this new Airport Extreme (6th Gen) is supposed to be much faster than its predecessors, but can my setup take advantage of that? Would I notice faster wireless with this unit, or is the limiting factor our basic Internet service or the cable modem?
A our business, we have the 10 down/2 uppackage and speed tests show that to be pretty much what we get. At home, speed tests usually clock in around 15-20 down and 1 up.
Staples has this on sale for $169. If buying it gives me faster wireless, then it's a good investment. If it just gives me a newer device with no performance improvements, there's no point in upgrading. I'd appreciate any insight on this, thanks.The new AirPort Extreme 802.11"ac" will deliver faster wireless.....IF.....you also have new Mac 802.11"ac" laptops and desktops to take advantage of that speed.
If you don't, then things will be pretty much the same as they are now...with perhaps just a bit better wireless range with the new AirPort Extreme.
Your Internet connection speed will always be limited to the plan that you have with your provider. No router in the world will make your Internet connection go faster than your plan provides.
The additional speed comes in handy if you are transferring files from one computer to another computer on your "local" network, or copying files from a computer to a hard drive. In this case, the newer AirPort Extreme can allow this to happen in a third to half of the time that it now takes.
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Problems getting an external hard drive to work on the new Airport Extreme
I have spent hours trying to get my 320GB external hard drive to work with the new airport extreme 802.11N. I have spent hours pouring over all of the posts here discussing possible solutions, all of which have not worked. This morning, however, I gave it another try and FINALLY, I have it working. I tried something simple. Here it is:
Using the Apple Disk Utility Program, I formated my drive using the MS-DOS mode, called my Hard drive "ItunesHD". It took about 20 minutes to complete (i'm assuming because of the size of the drive). I then unplugged the router and hard drive, turned on the hard drive, then the router. After my macbook pro reconnected, I clicked on the iDisk utility icon in my menu bar, provided my password and FINALLY saw the network drive icon on my desktop!!! It seems that formatting my drive using MS-DOS compatibility mode finally worked for me. I'm not saying this will work for anyone else who is having this problem, but you can at least try it. I tried all of the MAC formatting options and have had no luck.
What I would like to know now is (..if anyone has these answers, please let me know):
1. What is the maximum SINGLE drive capacity that this router will understand...500GB, 1TB, 2TB? I would like to get the biggest bang for my buck.
2. Keeping #1 one in mind, I purchased an Apple TV (still waiting on it to arrive) and I would like to know if it will read multiple hard drives connected to the Airport Extreme router (...say (2) 500GB hard drives). I know you can have multiple libraries in iTunes (which to me is a cheesy solutions, there should be an option in the preferences that would allow you to save your music in one place and your movies in another). Anybody have any idea on this one?
I basically want to rip all of my dvd movies on a big hard drive connected to my airport extreme to use with my AppleTV , so I just need to find out about the maximum size and hooking up more than one hard drive and getting the AppleTV to recognize them all.
thnks
MacBook Pro Core Duo Mac OS X (10.4.8)Sorry you had so much trouble hooking up a hard drive to the base station. I've done some experimenting with the feature and this is what I've found out.
You can use either the native Mac format, Mac OS Extended, or the Microsoft format known as FAT. Apple calls FAT, MS-DOS File System in Disk Utility.
If you use Mac OS Extended, the Macs on the network will be able to connect to the drive using the native AFP (Apple File Protocol) or the Microsoft native SMB (Server Message Block) protocol. PCs will only use the SMB protocol of course.
If you use MS-DOS File System both the Macs and the PCs will only use SMB to connect to the drive over the network.
Basically I've found everything works as expected with regard to volumes connected to a network.
One thing I don't have installed is the iDisk Utility. I'm wondering if it may be the cause of the problems you were having. But reading through your post it may also be the difference between expected behaviour and the proper procedure for discovering and mounting network volumes. Let me explain.
You only mention having trouble getting the drive to show up on your Desktop, you didn't describe how you went about discovering the network drive. It isn't just suppose to show up on your desktop when you plug it in to the Extreme base station. It doesn't work like the iDisk or disks connected directly to your computer using USB/Firewire.
Normally with network drives you're suppose to either browse for them using the Network icon in the Finder or using the Connect to Server command in the Finder's Go menu, you would type the address in directly for the network volume you want to mount. Try it and see what happens.
Now to answer your other questions.
I don't have a volume large enough to hit any limits the base station may have but I did read a post about someone who said they had a 1.5 TB volume connected and could only see 1 TB of it. They were forced to partition the drive to see all available space and of course the volumes showed up as two separate drives. One thing wasn't made clear though. They didn't say what volume format they were using to format the drive, Mac OS Extended or MS-DOS.
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What are the Specifications of Extreme Model A1354
What are the Specifications of Extreme Model A1354
If you might be thinking about purchasing a used device, you should be aware that the A1354 is going to be anywhere from 4 years to 5+ depending on when it was originally sold.
The useful life of an AirPort router is, on average, about 5 years....so you might want to give that some thought, if you are considering a purchase. -
Does the new airport extreme support backing up via time machine to an external hard drive pluged into the usb port
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Can you share a hard drive with the current airport extreme
Hey all!
I read that you can share USB drives with the new airport extreme. Can you do that with the current ones?
Thanks,
BMassi65, Welcome to the discussion area!
You really should start a new thread since your question is about the new square AEBS and the thread started with a question about the previous AEBS.
With either AEBS you could wirelessly gain access to a hard drive by one of these 3 methods:
Use a hard drive with wireless networking capabilities. The drive would connect to the wireless network like any other wireless client.
Use a hard drive with an Ethernet interface. Connect the drive to the AEBS's LAN port.
Connect a hard drive via FireWire or USB to another Mac and then share the drive from that Mac.
The new square AEBS offers a new possibility. You can connect a USB drive directly to the new AEBS and share it to devices connected to the AEBS's network.
What performance could I expect?
No one can answer this directly since no one has any of these devices to try. -
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My the other two iMac(G5 and Intel) 20" can see all three wireless network and connet to them without any problem.
My only question is has Apple implement any "regional code" on the hardware. My MacBook Pro is from US and the new Airport Extreme was bought in New Zealand.
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